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05-14-2013 10:58 PM
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  1. hopmedic's Avatar
    I made a quick chart of the differences between 920 and 928 based on the specs on Nokia's site. This only includes the things that are different between the two.

    928 920
    Colors Black, White Black, White, Red, Yellow, Cyan
    Size 10.2 x 133.0 x 68.9 mm 10.7 x 130.3 x 70.8 mm
    Weight 162.0 g 185.0 g
    Display AMOLED 4.5" IPS 4.5"
    Battery usage time 16.2 h Maximum Talk 3G 9 h Maximum Talk 3G
    Display Features PureMotion HD+
    ClearBlack
    Brightness control
    Orientation sensor
    High brightness mode
    Sunlight readability enhancements
    Corning Gorilla Glass 2
    Ambient light sensor
    Sculpted glass
    Easy to clean

    PureMotion HD+
    ClearBlack
    Polarization filter
    Brightness control
    Corning Gorilla Glass
    Orientation sensor
    Low power mode
    High brightness mode
    RGB Stripe
    Sunlight readability enhancements
    Color boosting
    Refresh rate 60 Hz
    Ambient light sensor
    Sculpted glass
    Easy to clean
    Content adaptive backlight
    Battery Model BV-4NW BP-4GW
    Camera Image Formats XMP
    JPEG/Exif

    JPEG/Exif

    Main Camera - other features Touch focus
    Landscape orientation
    Exposure compensation
    Auto and manual exposure
    Auto and manual white balance
    Active toolbar
    Full screen viewfinder
    Automatic motion blur reduction
    Geotagging
    Optical image stabilization
    True 16:9 sensor
    PureView
    Backside-illuminated image sensor
    Automatic photo upload to web services
    Full resolution photo and video upload
    Touch focus
    Landscape orientation
    Exposure compensation
    Auto and manual exposure
    Auto and manual white balance
    Still image editor
    Face recognition
    Full screen viewfinder
    Automatic motion blur reduction
    Center weighted auto exposure
    Geotagging
    Optical image stabilization
    True 16:9 sensor
    PureView
    Backside-illuminated image sensor
    Automatic photo upload to web services
    Full resolution photo and video upload
    Creative Studio
    Flash Type Xenon

    Short puls high power dual LED

    *Edit: One other difference is that the loudspeaker is moved from the bottom on the 920 to the back on the 928, and is said to be louder/better.
    Last edited by hopmedic; 05-11-2013 at 09:25 PM.
    05-10-2013 01:19 PM
  2. o4liberty's Avatar
    I am not seeing a major difference but for me it will be a nice upgrade from my 822. I just hope the camera is as good as they say it is.
    05-10-2013 08:13 PM
  3. rimlover's Avatar
    wait so this is pentile display? also how are the standby time and talk time all so much higher on the 928 vs the 920. i'd understand a an hour or to but not nearly double....

    Also, does anyone know what firmware or WP8 os it's running? maybe that's why?
    05-11-2013 02:29 AM
  4. Honestabebread's Avatar
    wait so this is pentile display? also how are the standby time and talk time all so much higher on the 928 vs the 920. i'd understand a an hour or to but not nearly double....

    Also, does anyone know what firmware or WP8 os it's running? maybe that's why?
    It's not PenTile. The standby and talk times are much higher because the battery runs at a lower voltage. Plus AMOLED screens are better on battery because blacks = off. I expect God-tier battery if you use the dark theme.

    If you watch the Nokia Conversations video about the 928, the dude says it has an "infinity display" that means the black on the screen is just as dark as the black glass bezel so you can't tell where it starts and stops. Which is ******* awesome.
    05-11-2013 06:36 AM
  5. vlad0's Avatar
    The xenon flash alone will be enough for me to pick the 928 over the 920.. its way better for night shots

    Also.. blacks = off but whites = higher consumption for the AMOLED .. so I would say its about the same. The good thing here is that they can implement the stand by clock coming with the next update easier than on an LCD
    05-11-2013 07:26 AM
  6. MobileVortex's Avatar
    Does anyone use the light theme? I turned it on once for maybe 30 seconds.
    hopmedic likes this.
    05-11-2013 07:31 AM
  7. odin09's Avatar
    I am just hoping that they fixed some of the issues that the 920 had. Battery life is a concern being that it is sealed so hopefully it lives up to the hype. I cant wait to get my hands on this phone Thursday or Friday at the latest!
    05-11-2013 07:35 AM
  8. Honestabebread's Avatar
    I am just hoping that they fixed some of the issues that the 920 had. Battery life is a concern being that it is sealed so hopefully it lives up to the hype. I cant wait to get my hands on this phone Thursday or Friday at the latest!
    I always go with the $1.99 extended warranty Verizon offers. Covers the sealed battery for as long as you pay it. Don't even notice it on my bill.
    05-11-2013 07:48 AM
  9. falconrap's Avatar
    The difference in display features listed above are exclusively for LCD and irrelevant for AMOLED. As long as it's not pen tile, as Honestabebread stated it's not, then this display will be awesome. The three "missing" camera features on the list are face recognition, still image editing, and Creative Studio. These are all software features, and, from the stuff put out so far, we already know it does facial recognition. So I'm willing to bet the other two are similar omissions of features that are, in fact, available.

    The 928 is actually about 2/10's of an inch longer than my 822, but is otherwise about the same size width, thinner, just 20 grams, or 0.7 ounces, heavier - about the wieght of 20 paper clips (I may need to hit the weights to lift this phone - rolling my eyes). Yet it has a larger, high definition display, superior camera, and the battery life is significantly better than my 822 and the 920. So this phone is thinner and lighter than the 920, has much longer battery life at a lower battery voltage (must be a different battery chemistry - would be interesting if someone could get some hard specs on the battery make-up), and has an AMOLED display with Gorilla Glass 2 versus 1. I'd say this is a very nice step up from the 920. What else could they really put into this phone other than more cores and memory and the larger sensor EOS is supposed to get?

    If this thing was available in red or cyan, I'd probably get it day one. Now I'll wait and see unless someone like Walmart has a sale on intro like the 822 did (I wouldn't put it past them).
    dnlbntl and TechAbstract like this.
    05-11-2013 07:50 AM
  10. Honestabebread's Avatar
    Does anyone use the light theme? I turned it on once for maybe 30 seconds.
    I would use it if they made a phone that didn't have a massive black sheet of glass on the front. So that leaves the Ativ Odyssey. Which no one has a reason to buy. So I guess the answer is no. No one uses the light theme.
    05-11-2013 07:50 AM
  11. falconrap's Avatar
    I should add, on the weight department, that I still find the whole thing silly. I have a Pre 2 (145g), a Pixi Plus (95g), a Pre Plus (138g), and my Lumia 822 (142g) and I struggle to see the difference between any of them, including between the Lumia and the Pixi. I can just ever so slightly tell the Pre 2 is "heavier", but, seriously, I can't believe Nokia felt they had to address the weight issue, but I am glad they did for perception purposes.
    05-11-2013 07:58 AM
  12. vlad0's Avatar
    then this display will be awesome.
    I can confirm.. an AMOLED with Nokia's polarizers is indeed awesome. Great contrast, very good outdoors...
    Slenzen likes this.
    05-11-2013 08:07 AM
  13. falconrap's Avatar
    I can confirm.. an AMOLED with Nokia's polarizers is indeed awesome. Great contrast, very good outdoors...
    The AMOLED display is why I chose the 822 over the 8X. Yeah, the high def high DPI looked nice, but the difference in color saturation was very noticeable. The LCD on the 8x had colors, including the theme colors, that just looked washed out. I can't wait to see how this display looks.
    05-11-2013 08:29 AM
  14. Slenzen's Avatar
    Love the form factor of L928 except for the extra bezel size! XENON \m/
    05-11-2013 08:33 AM
  15. rimlover's Avatar
    It's not PenTile. The standby and talk times are much higher because the battery runs at a lower voltage. Plus AMOLED screens are better on battery because blacks = off. I expect God-tier battery if you use the dark theme.

    If you watch the Nokia Conversations video about the 928, the dude says it has an "infinity display" that means the black on the screen is just as dark as the black glass bezel so you can't tell where it starts and stops. Which is ******* awesome.
    how are you sure it's not pentile? and ya sure the blacks i get but during phone calls? 920 and 928 screens would be off so how does that explain the double talk time?

    btw technically even OLED has a small current running through the screen (even when black) to allow for faster ramp up on brighter colours. it's still a lot 'blacker' than LCD haha. i hope anandtech does a comparison of 920 vs 928 screens.
    05-11-2013 12:58 PM
  16. hopmedic's Avatar
    Added the following to the OP:

    *Edit: One other difference is that the loudspeaker is moved from the bottom on the 920 to the back on the 928, and is said to be louder/better.

    And my guess on the differences between the software features is probably just that they didn't bother listing.
    05-11-2013 09:33 PM
  17. falconrap's Avatar
    I would guess that the voltage reduction is a significant portion of the longer times. P=(V*V)/R, so that means a small drop in voltage is a larger drop in power when the impedance is the same. Anyone familiar with overclocking CPU's gets a first hand view of this. As you increase voltage, changing nothing else, power goes up at an exponential rate, and, subsequently, the inverse is true.
    diego15nets likes this.
    05-11-2013 10:47 PM
  18. rimlover's Avatar
    I would guess that the voltage reduction is a significant portion of the longer times. P=(V*V)/R, so that means a small drop in voltage is a larger drop in power when the impedance is the same. Anyone familiar with overclocking CPU's gets a first hand view of this. As you increase voltage, changing nothing else, power goes up at an exponential rate, and, subsequently, the inverse is true.
    again but that doesn't explain why talk time is so more when both screens would be off.
    05-11-2013 11:00 PM
  19. snowmutt's Avatar
    In my humble, unimportant opinion....

    1) This is an upgrade over the 920, sorta like a Lincoln is an upgrade over a Cadillac (or vice versa, depending on your preference). Not enough to move from AT&T to Verizon for, but certainly will bump the 8X and 822 into second tier status on Big Red. 8X is a good phone, but the 928 just has better features.


    2) It is good enough to bump any Android in it's price range clear out of its way. While the GS4 (or whatever number it is on) or HTC 1 (if it makes Verizon) may not have much to worry about and certainly iPhone lovers will not give it a second look, there is no reason not to give the 928 3rd or 4th place on the shelves. It has every chance to be the device that gets WP8 in the limelight on the largest carrier in the US.

    3) I think it is a sexy, sultry looking phone. I LOVE the white. I do think it beats the 920, and nearly every other device, in looks.
    rimlover and deadwrong03 like this.
    05-12-2013 01:24 AM
  20. chris7191's Avatar
    Different radio chipset, probably lower power consumption and management of it in firmware.
    rimlover likes this.
    05-12-2013 01:30 AM
  21. sullibr01's Avatar
    so how does that explain the double talk time?
    .
    I thought I read that CDMA radios are more efficient.
    05-12-2013 04:18 AM
  22. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    So lesser in dimensions and weight, but still has an extra bezel? How?! :/
    05-12-2013 07:02 AM
  23. vonchowder's Avatar
    I am still confused on the differences in audio between this and 920. Is there more mics than 920? Are they different? Some people have said stereo recording but I dont see that in specs. Also, I see it has a different speaker but is the amp new and different? What about headphone amp? Regarding camera, is hardware really different besides the xenon flash?

    There really is confusion on this compared to 920 in the media reports so far. They talk about screen and build...but no one is really talking about audio or camera hardware diffs except Nokia so I need help here.

    I'm potentially getting three of these on day one. I am taking deep dive coming from Sprint after 12 long and boring years and droid so want to make sure I am not overlooking the Att option of colored 920s with same audio and video capabilities and cheaper price. All my options are open. I've been following this 928 for months and just need clarification from those who really know 920 hardware compared to this.
    Thanks.
    05-12-2013 10:21 AM
  24. rimlover's Avatar
    I thought I read that CDMA radios are more efficient.
    But most gsm phones that have a cdma counter part are only like an hour or two less in talk times. Inbreeding to see someone put those numbers to test though.
    05-12-2013 11:26 AM
  25. hopmedic's Avatar
    I am still confused on the differences in audio between this and 920. Is there more mics than 920? Are they different? Some people have said stereo recording but I dont see that in specs. Also, I see it has a different speaker but is the amp new and different? What about headphone amp? Regarding camera, is hardware really different besides the xenon flash?
    Right here in the specs:
    Main video camera features
    • Video streaming: YouTube browsing and video streaming, Progressive video download, Streaming from video services and internet
    • Video recording features: Stereo Audio Recording, Video light, Video zoom, Optical image stabilization, Continuous autofocus


    Nokia Lumia 928 - Specifications - Nokia - USA

    It has the same number of mics as the 920.
    05-12-2013 12:53 PM
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