05-18-2013 04:32 PM
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  1. vlad0's Avatar
    One thing to note, if you're taking photos during the day, set your ISO to 100. That will maximize sharpness and minimize grain.
    Can you go under 100 on these phones ?
    05-17-2013 10:49 AM
  2. squire777's Avatar
    This is odd since most reviews I have read so far said good things about the camera, and put daytime shots on par with the iPhone 5. None of them said the camera was 'bad' or 'terrible'.
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    05-17-2013 11:06 AM
  3. prjkthack's Avatar
    If the 928 is the exact same camera as the 920, it should take great pictures in daylight and even better photos at night. My 920 blows any other phone that I've owned away.

    But, the 928 is not the 920, and therefore I could totally understand if there are some updates or tweaks that need to happen before the camera performance really shines. Kinda like how there were some issues with the 920's camera at launch, but a few updates solved those issues. I expect that Nokia/Verizon will push some updates if this becomes a widespread issue.

    Wow!! Nice pics!! What settings? My wife's GS3 can do similar, my DNA as well. My 928, however, not even close.
    The Droid DNA takes horrible photos. They look great on the screen because the DNA's screen is beautiful. But once you really get a good look at them, they just look terrible. The DNA was almost universally panned for its terrible camera performance. I believe I remember people saying even the One X was better. I don't get why HTC can't do cameras right. The One is probably as good as it gets for them at the moment.
    05-17-2013 11:12 AM
  4. chezm's Avatar
    Wow!! Nice pics!! What settings? My wife's GS3 can do similar, my DNA as well. My 928, however, not even close.
    like i said, i know NOTHING about cameras or settings haha...i believe most is standard (auto?). i did add some contrast to the second pic...but very little. The only thing i usually change is "Scenes" from Auto to Close-up, back forth depending. Thats all. You know your way around a camera it seems, im sure you just need to play around with it a bit and you'll find what you're looking for.
    05-17-2013 11:13 AM
  5. waazzupppp's Avatar
    The other things that has to be taken in to account regarding the 'softness' of the images is that the lens on the 92x's are all fixed f/2.0 lenses. This means that regardless of the amount of light that is available, it has to adjust the 'shutter speed' to compensate. If there is too much light, it can't adjust enough and the image becomes over-exposed and washed out. The other draw back is that by allowing that much light into to the sensor, the focal depth of the lens is greatly reduced which can lead to fuzzy images or a very shallow focus area. The plus side to running a f/2.0 lens is that they shoot very well in lower light conditions. With proper tweaks to the settings, you can easily make the camera take better images just like Justin429 did... And sharing those tips is what makes communities like this so much better.

    So, to the OP, thanks for the comments and allowing us to post some tips to help others learn how to get more from the cameras on the Lumia. They not only help with the 9xx series, but also with my wife's 8X and my 810 as well. In fact, they probably even help the Android users that pop in here from time to time just to see what's new.

    For my tip of the day, I'll just try and remind everyone that the Xenon flash on the 928 is much hotter than the LED flashes that people are used to. The Xenon flash has a hotspot inside 4 feet and doesn't work out side 15 feet. Normal LED flashes (or dual LED) work from about 3-10 feet. Don't try and use them inside or outside that range and expect too much in the way of awesomeness... Of course, you can create some pretty good effects by blowing out or under exposing flash images as well.
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    05-17-2013 11:30 AM
  6. Somerichs's Avatar
    Bobbman, it would go a long way if you could post some of the pictures you've taken with your phone that you were less than thrilled with for folks to see and react to.

    It sounds like there's quite a few people on this thread with good photography background and a good working knowledge of the 920/928 and could help fix what ails ya.

    Antsin3d, I have my 928 ordered and it'll be my first Nokie/WP. So it gives you the ability to set ISO. If you change it does it keep that change until you change again? Does it offer similar control over other settings, too? thanks!

    Edit: also, similar to most point and shoots, with these phones are you able to tweak settings to your liking and then save those settings for future use or as a default?
    05-17-2013 11:58 AM
  7. Bobbman's Avatar
    I will be giving it another go around ,this evening with some of the tips given. Great forum!! Thanks to all!! If I figure out how to upload some pics will do that as well.
    05-17-2013 12:04 PM
  8. lisainsf's Avatar
    here are a few I took today so if you are seeing this level of sharpness and color then you may want to exchange your phone







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    05-17-2013 12:25 PM
  9. antsin3d's Avatar
    lisainsf, I think you've shown that the camera can take some astonishingly nice pics. Those are great
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    05-17-2013 12:27 PM
  10. Bobbman's Avatar
    All on auto settings? Maybe with a tripod? Wow!! Real nice. Mine are an embarrassment next to that. Yet I can use any other camera phone and get close to it...just not the 928. Not yet anyway!!
    05-17-2013 12:29 PM
  11. lisainsf's Avatar
    All on auto settings? Maybe with a tripod? Wow!! Real nice. Mine are an embarrassment next to that. Yet I can use any other camera phone and get close to it...just not the 928. Not yet anyway!!

    no tripod all hand held and any softness is probably due to a slight breeze blowing. I set the iso to 100, white balance to daylight as auto tends to be more yellow and that was it..took the pictures. Skies tend to be noisy but thatis more a small sensor thing than a camera thing and foliage and extreme corners tend to have what is known as smearing a bit but again that is a small sensor and wide angle thing not a fault of the phone camera...happens to the most expensive lenses and cameras as well
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    05-17-2013 12:32 PM
  12. falconrap's Avatar
    This is why I use Proshot...the Auto selects better settings for most scenes than the default Nokia Auto setting does. Since a large chunk of my pictures are "moment" shots of my kids, I needed to be able to quickly load the camera up and take great shots. Otherwise, on Lumias, they usually have the settings available if you know what you are doing. Clearly the camera is capable.
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    05-17-2013 12:38 PM
  13. lisainsf's Avatar
    This is why I use Proshot...the Auto selects better settings for most scenes than the default Nokia Auto setting does. Since a large chunk of my pictures are "moment" shots of my kids, I needed to be able to quickly load the camera up and take great shots. Otherwise, on Lumias, they usually have the settings available if you know what you are doing. Clearly the camera is capable.
    I did switch to pro shot as well for a few shots and it was better on the yellows so I agree it is a good app for when you just want to snap and not fiddle as well as if you want more control as well over your images
    05-17-2013 12:45 PM
  14. texas tk's Avatar
    Works great for me...love the camera...
    I will say that the pictures looked even better _after_ I took the protective plastic sticker off...
    05-17-2013 12:50 PM
  15. fwaits's Avatar
    Bobbman, it would go a long way if you could post some of the pictures you've taken with your phone that you were less than thrilled with for folks to see and react to.

    It sounds like there's quite a few people on this thread with good photography background and a good working knowledge of the 920/928 and could help fix what ails ya.

    Antsin3d, I have my 928 ordered and it'll be my first Nokie/WP. So it gives you the ability to set ISO. If you change it does it keep that change until you change again? Does it offer similar control over other settings, too? thanks!

    Edit: also, similar to most point and shoots, with these phones are you able to tweak settings to your liking and then save those settings for future use or as a default?
    You can change ISO, White Balance, Exposure value, Aspect Ratio (16:9, 4:3), and toggle the focus assist light and yes you can save the values so it will stay that way until you change them again.
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    05-17-2013 01:19 PM
  16. Muessig's Avatar
    If you're struggling with the camera I know you said you know how to take a picture but there's some recommended apps in this guide: http://forums.windowscentral.com/win...Bguide%5D.html
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    05-17-2013 01:26 PM
  17. uselessrobot's Avatar
    Having taken a bunch of photos with my Lumia 920 I'd say it's every bit as good as anything else on the market in broad daylight, especially post update. In dark settings, there's no contest.

    There are two problems I've experienced. One is that the there is too much low light compensation going on in scenes that feature partial darkness. The second, more important problem that has arisen since the update, is occasional problems with focus. I get the issue where, for whatever reason, the camera fails to focus properly. When it's acting up, I have to take several photos to get one that's sharp. Usually what happens, however, is that I'm taking multiple photos of the same subject and while most shots are fine one or two manage to end up unfocused.

    Given that the 928 uses the same hardware I expect the experience to be similar. Still, in the scheme of things the annoyances are minor. This is one of the first cameras I've ever used where I can just pick it up, snap a photo, and get good results. The third party photo apps are probably good, but I've found their utility to be largely superfluous with this particular phone.
    05-17-2013 01:55 PM
  18. Bobbman's Avatar
    "The 8.7-megapixel camera on the Lumia 928 is a mixed bag. In good lighting, I find that photos taken with the 928 aren’t as clear as similar photos captured with the iPhone 5, for example. I also find that colors don’t pop quite as much. In low light, the Lumia 928′s PureView camera really shines (pun intended, sadly) and the visibility in resulting photos is better than any other phone I have tested, including the HTC One, which takes great low-light photos."

    Quote from BGR review...they see the same issues I started thread with
    05-17-2013 02:05 PM
  19. squire777's Avatar
    They said the pictures aren't as clear as photos as the iPhone 5 but didn't say it was bad or terrible.

    The pictures posted by lisainsf pretty much show what the camera is capable of.
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    05-17-2013 02:27 PM
  20. mase123987's Avatar
    "The 8.7-megapixel camera on the Lumia 928 is a mixed bag. In good lighting, I find that photos taken with the 928 aren’t as clear as similar photos captured with the iPhone 5, for example. I also find that colors don’t pop quite as much. In low light, the Lumia 928′s PureView camera really shines (pun intended, sadly) and the visibility in resulting photos is better than any other phone I have tested, including the HTC One, which takes great low-light photos."

    Quote from BGR review...they see the same issues I started thread with
    Be careful; BGR has A LOT of anti-anything Microsoft. I don't go to their site but a news aggregate that I use does pull articles from them. Just a general thought and observation.
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    05-17-2013 02:31 PM
  21. Residing's Avatar
    "The 8.7-megapixel camera on the Lumia 928 is a mixed bag. In good lighting, I find that photos taken with the 928 aren’t as clear as similar photos captured with the iPhone 5, for example. I also find that colors don’t pop quite as much. In low light, the Lumia 928′s PureView camera really shines (pun intended, sadly) and the visibility in resulting photos is better than any other phone I have tested, including the HTC One, which takes great low-light photos."

    Quote from BGR review...they see the same issues I started thread with
    Okay. So what are you going to do - take the advice and tips from current users that will help you achieve better results, surf the web to find others who've encountered the same issue as you, exchange it for a refund, exchange it for another Lumia 928 or another device?

    At this point, it seems as though there is enough information in this thread for you to move to the next course of action.
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    05-17-2013 02:51 PM
  22. GolferChris68's Avatar
    It seems like the issue is with shots taken in Auto mode. I understand why people would be disappointed that Auto mode isn't as good in daylight as it should be, but as with an SLR or advanced compact camera, shooting in Auto takes the lighting and metering choices out of the hands of the photographer, and leaves it to the camera. Most Auto shots are not going to be as good as the same shot taken with the photographer controlling more of the camera's operations. Even with an SLR, shots taken in auto mode can look really bad.

    I have yet to pick up the 928, but I am planning on picking it up this weekend. Hopefully, shooting in non-Auto mode will work around any weaknesses in daytime auto shooting. And hopefully, Nokia can put out an update to make the Auto mode better in daylight shooting.
    05-17-2013 03:09 PM
  23. Bobbman's Avatar
    Going to give it a week....use all the excellent suggestions given in this thread...and hopefully next week start a new post..."Wow I am an ***** this phone is....Great!!"...I do hope to do that!
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    05-17-2013 03:10 PM
  24. jmajid's Avatar
    I have a Pureview 808 - i can tell you that auto photos are NO WHERE near the same as when i go into creative mode.
    A world of difference...
    Now for average joe - they will shoot with Auto - and will expect good photos - and when they post to Instagram or facebook - they'll be happy.
    Its people like us that demand more of the camera, but to be honest, i think we need to educate ourselves a little and then we will get more out of the camera too.
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    05-17-2013 03:23 PM
  25. mase123987's Avatar
    I have a Pureview 808 - i can tell you that auto photos are NO WHERE near the same as when i go into creative mode.
    A world of difference...
    Now for average joe - they will shoot with Auto - and will expect good photos - and when they post to Instagram or facebook - they'll be happy.
    Its people like us that demand more of the camera, but to be honest, i think we need to educate ourselves a little and then we will get more out of the camera too.
    I think this is a good point!
    05-17-2013 03:27 PM
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