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  1. carajean's Avatar
    I stream A LOT and rarely go over 2 gigs. I stream at the gym every night for an hour then on the way there on the way back. I stream when Im on my street bike. I stream at my new office because of net restrictions. I dont think it uses that much data.

    But hey if you need a SD card ya need one.
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    05-18-2013 07:00 PM
  2. falconrap's Avatar
    I use Pandora to stream for about an hour and a half to 2 hours every weekday and some on the weekends and I use about 1.2GB of data a month to stream. So that is something to consider, especially since premium Pandora is free for all of 2013 on Windows Phone. I'm curious as to just how many songs you have where 20+ GB isn't enough.
    05-18-2013 07:35 PM
  3. mase123987's Avatar
    I use Pandora to stream for about an hour and a half to 2 hours every weekday and some on the weekends and I use about 1.2GB of data a month to stream. So that is something to consider, especially since premium Pandora is free for all of 2013 on Windows Phone. I'm curious as to just how many songs you have where 20+ GB isn't enough.
    The guy already said he doesn't want to stream all of his music, and he doesn't want to use Pandora because he can't select which songs he wants.
    05-18-2013 07:42 PM
  4. WizeGuyDezignz's Avatar
    I'm not expecting anyone to agree and I'm not being malicious with this, but I will never understand why someone would need over 32gb on a cell phone.

    32gb gives you plenty of room to put a lot of music with a wide variety along with pictures, etc. And if room starts to get tight or you want to add some different music, how hard is it to connect to a PC and swap some stuff out?
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    05-18-2013 07:57 PM
  5. dalydose's Avatar
    I'm not expecting anyone to agree and I'm not being malicious with this, but I will never understand why someone would need over 32gb on a cell phone.

    32gb gives you plenty of room to put a lot of music with a wide variety along with pictures, etc. And if room starts to get tight or you want to add some different music, how hard is it to connect to a PC and swap some stuff out?
    Well, the OP seems to need it and if that's how he does things then it's valid for his experience.

    For the record, I hate having to decide what to put on my device. my phone IS my music player and I use it all the time, including when I teach my Spinning class, so having a large selection to choose from is important. I had my Zune30 full all the time before it died. I do use my "old" Lumia 900 as a mostly dedicated music player since Zune works so well, but I hope XBox Music gets squared away and useable. Then I'll have a storage issue on my Lumia 920.

    ...oh, and the computer sync software for WP8 is kind of horrible.
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    05-18-2013 08:26 PM
  6. nunyazz's Avatar
    Well, the OP seems to need it and if that's how he does things then it's valid for his experience.
    ...oh, and the computer sync software for WP8 is kind of horrible.
    I was about to say just the opposite... Pick your playllists and hit go. That is terrible.
    05-18-2013 08:29 PM
  7. TonyDedrick's Avatar
    ^^At the end of the day, it doesn't hurt to have options. For some, 32gb is not enough. I listen to ALOT of music. Not exaggerating. And because of limited data, streaming also isn't an option for me. I also take a ton of pictures. I went with the 820 cause I needed the space an SD card provided
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    05-18-2013 08:31 PM
  8. mase123987's Avatar
    There is a reason there are many ipod's out there with more space for music and videos....
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    05-18-2013 08:32 PM
  9. rkeenan's Avatar
    The purpose of this thread is not for me to complain about this because this is the way the 928 will be made. This thread or anything thread will not change the hardware of the 928. I just wanted my voice to be heard so other manufacturers will see that SD cards are needed by some or a 64GB device. I bought the Note 2 back in December because I saw the Nexus 4 had the maximum of 16gb available, which I thought was pathetic. This is why I would not consider a Nexus device. I vote with my dollars and I will not spend a penny on a device that does not have 64gb without sd card or 16-32GB with SD Card. I am not going to spend $100 a year on Spotify because Nokia will not put an SD Card in their device or produce a 64GB device, especially after I have already purchased the music. Plus Spotify does not have the selection I do. I have the Beatles and Zeppelin...they do not. I like the unlimited genres I have on my phone and do not feel I need to compromise. I have everything from Frank Sinatra to Black Sabbath to Wagner to Third Eye Blind to Deicide to Burzum. I like variety and if a company wants to not satisfy my needs, then I will buy from another manufacturer. It is a fantastic phone and I have been waiting since the 920 came out for a high-end Nokia phone on Verizon. The 822 felt too mid-range for me. (I owned it for 10 days, it is in a post above) The 928 is fantastic but it just missed the mark for me to buy it. My friend is getting a new phone and ditching his Droid X. I told him the 928 would be the best phone for him because he never puts music or any media on his phone. I told him that eventually that Windows will overtake Android. He asked about an iPhone and I laughed.

    I still support their efforts, I just won't buy their product if it doesn't meet my needs. Simple as that.

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    Last edited by rkeenan; 05-19-2013 at 02:24 AM.
    05-19-2013 02:06 AM
  10. willied's Avatar
    The thing I don't get is how after all these years of flash storage prices going down, we still get the same limited options. We should be able to get 128GB in phones by now.
    05-19-2013 08:44 AM
  11. CoZmicShReddeR's Avatar
    The thing I don't get is how after all these years of flash storage prices going down, we still get the same limited options. We should be able to get 128GB in phones by now.
    I agree with 100% it is vary ridiculous in todays world not to have 128gb or more built in plus expandable storage! If anything these phones should be modular with ability to expand different parts!
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    05-19-2013 09:05 AM
  12. racedog's Avatar
    I went into a Verizon store last night to look at the 928. It was a lot nicer phone that I expected it to be and even though I had expected to buy the SGS 4 later this week I thought I might change my mind. That is, until I learned that it had 32gb of memory and no slot. I have 29 gigs of music loaded on my s3 w/64gb sd right now and now I am re-thinking the s4. I fly a lot and using the cloud on an airplane is not a consideration. That 29 gigs of music is just a tiny part of my music collection as I have well over 2000 albums and cds of music that I have burned. Changing out music constantly is also not a consideration as I don't know what I want to play until I decide to play some music.

    I would have bought the 928 on the spot of their had been a 64 gig version or an sd. For now, I'll just hold off on buying anything to see what might be coming out in the future. I had purchased an 822 a few months ago to try out windows and it was fine but the 822 was just too low end for me. Phone manufacturers really need to give us some flexibility as we don't all have the same needs nor do we all use our phone and features the same way.
    05-19-2013 11:37 AM
  13. KoukiFC3S's Avatar
    I went into a Verizon store last night to look at the 928. It was a lot nicer phone that I expected it to be and even though I had expected to buy the SGS 4 later this week I thought I might change my mind. That is, until I learned that it had 32gb of memory and no slot. I have 29 gigs of music loaded on my s3 w/64gb sd right now and now I am re-thinking the s4. I fly a lot and using the cloud on an airplane is not a consideration. That 29 gigs of music is just a tiny part of my music collection as I have well over 2000 albums and cds of music that I have burned. Changing out music constantly is also not a consideration as I don't know what I want to play until I decide to play some music.

    I would have bought the 928 on the spot of their had been a 64 gig version or an sd. For now, I'll just hold off on buying anything to see what might be coming out in the future. I had purchased an 822 a few months ago to try out windows and it was fine but the 822 was just too low end for me. Phone manufacturers really need to give us some flexibility as we don't all have the same needs nor do we all use our phone and features the same way.
    The GS4 only has 9.5GB of storage for apps. Although it has a lot of space for music and media in the SD, I think you might still hit a wall with its internal storage. Just something to keep in mind.
    05-19-2013 11:49 AM
  14. racedog's Avatar
    The GS4 only has 9.5GB of storage for apps. Although it has a lot of space for music and media in the SD, I think you might still hit a wall with its internal storage. Just something to keep in mind.
    I know that about the s4, but I don't download a lot of apps so the remaining 9 gigs of space internally is not a problem. I like the 928 better than the s4 but I need an sd. I don't see a way around that right now. I've put buying a new phone on hold right now until I think about this whole thing. I may look at other phones but I wish I could find a way around the 32 gig limit.
    05-19-2013 11:56 AM
  15. Kevin Rush's Avatar
    The Verizon Nokia L 822 has 16 GB internal and I added a 64 GB card. Problem solved. I know some have posted above, that this phone isn't "high end enough" for them to tolerate. For those people, all I can say is that the 64GB must, in reality, not be that important to you. It is to me.

    I had hoped to put my 64 GB card in a new colorful Nokia Verizon phone, but I can enjoy all the music, pictures, and video on my 64 GB card in my 822, and wait...
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    05-19-2013 12:39 PM
  16. juvethesecond's Avatar
    ...I may look at other phones but I wish I could find a way around the 32 gig limit.
    If you really like the 928 maybe some external flash drive with wifi (something like maxell airstash) would work...
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    05-19-2013 12:59 PM
  17. Erickson187's Avatar
    I also was going to upgrade to the 928 from the 822 but the no SD card and built in battery were enough to not upgrade it.

    I hate the growing trend of nee phones not having a battery you can remove as sl many times you need to pull the battery on a phone. Not to mention if the battery goes you need to get a new phone instead of just putting a new one in and with no option in WP8 to have a complete backup of all your stuff including game saves and apps no longer in the marketplace could be a major pain, not to mention that even with the phone turned off you can be monitored if you don't take out the battery.

    As far as the storage goes, I want the extra space because the 16 or even 32 gigs would not be enough for ally games to be installed. I have many Xbox live games on my phone and keep having to delete and install other ones. With the SD card I have them all on it and I can just install them to the phone without having to have WiFi since it will not allow you to download them over cell network, not to mention that for most of the games you need to have like 3x the amount of free space in order to install it.
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    05-19-2013 01:11 PM
  18. smoledman's Avatar
    I don't care about putting music on a phone anymore. Between XBox Music, Nokia Music, Pandora I'm covered while on the go. At home I have my full music collection.
    05-19-2013 01:52 PM
  19. Kevin Rush's Avatar
    The argument that everything is in the cloud and you should stream everything just isn't realistic all the time and everywhere. Streaming is sometimes slow or nonexistent, it uses up bandwidth allotment, and uses up battery. It's a wonderful dream.
    05-19-2013 10:11 PM
  20. racedog's Avatar
    If you really like the 928 maybe some external flash drive with wifi (something like maxell airstash) would work...
    I just checked out the Airstash and it looks like it just might change my mind about buying the 928. Thank you for pointing out this device. So many other responses offered nothing more than their own opinions on how I should be using my phone. What works for others is great, that doesn't mean it would apply to how I use mine. You offered a real method/work around and quite possibly generated another sale for the 928.
    05-20-2013 12:31 PM
  21. WizeGuyDezignz's Avatar
    Just as a side note as to why some people are baffled by companies not going larger than 32gb or offering a SD card slot. You have to realize that people who want over 32gb's are in a very small minority of smartphone users. I only know of one other guy at my entire company (which is large) that even cares about storage space on a phone. Of course I haven't asked every single employee about it, but enough to form an opinion.

    And the companies aren't doing this on purpose, they are going off of their focus group data, etc. It's obvious why they aren't putting more into their phones....it's because the majority doesn't care or ask for it. There is no company that I know of which is trying to make money that will completely ignore the majority of their consumers and just do things their way. You to listen to your consumers to an extent. Since a small percentage asks for it, they are going the less expensive route and siding with their majority.

    That's just how I see it, right or wrong.
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    05-20-2013 06:44 PM
  22. Existence_Inc's Avatar
    ... to Burzum.
    Holy Crap another person who knows about Burzum! \o/ I can say I have been feeling the EXACT same way about the phones that have been coming out. The HTC One would have been a great option, but it isn't coming to VZW and AT&T has the 64GB version exclusively. I was VERY hopeful to jump to WP from my Bold 9930, but it doesn't offer enough storage for pictures, video, music, maps, apps, etc. to suit MY needs either. As such, I will muddle through with my 40GB (32GB SD + 8GB internal) 9930 until something better comes along.

    And the companies aren't doing this on purpose, they are going off of their focus group data, etc.
    I don't know that I agree. Google's own Nexus phones no longer include SD cards nor much storage. They are pushing the cloud. MS is pushing the Cloud. Apple is pushing the cloud. And all of this is at a time where unlimited data plans are vanishing. These companies know exactly what they are doing alright. Streaming audio eats up data, provides subscription revenue, and/or ad revenue. Apple offers the option of 16, 32, and 64 for iPhones, iPads (128GB included), and iPods. Even Nokia thought it was important enough to launch their sole MeeGo phone (N9) with a 64GB option, despite killing the OS before the phone had arrived to market. I own one (N9) and dearly love the device, but am unable to use it as a phone on VZW due to the nature of their network (CDMA).

    Also, keep in mind that some of us travel a lot and may not live in cities. Travelers don't have access to data at all while flying and it can be spotty when traveling through rural areas. I live in a rural area, approximately 200miles from the nearest City, and while coverage is good where I live (3G), it becomes increasingly unreliable while outside of the small towns or while traveling through the mountains. This is why I prefer large capacity storage and offline maps/navigation. It may not be necessary for the majority of users, but options are good regardless, right? Besides, if our only options would be defined by the majority, there would only be Samsung Galaxy and iPhones as options. Isn't that the same thing, since the small minority of people want something different (BB10, WP7/8)?

    ~Ex
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    05-20-2013 07:18 PM
  23. rkeenan's Avatar
    Just as a side note as to why some people are baffled by companies not going larger than 32gb or offering a SD card slot. You have to realize that people who want over 32gb's are in a very small minority of smartphone users. I only know of one other guy at my entire company (which is large) that even cares about storage space on a phone. Of course I haven't asked every single employee about it, but enough to form an opinion.

    And the companies aren't doing this on purpose, they are going off of their focus group data, etc. It's obvious why they aren't putting more into their phones....it's because the majority doesn't care or ask for it. There is no company that I know of which is trying to make money that will completely ignore the majority of their consumers and just do things their way. You to listen to your consumers to an extent. Since a small percentage asks for it, they are going the less expensive route and siding with their majority.

    That's just how I see it, right or wrong.
    Obviously most people buy the cheapest phone but if the extra storage option was not viable and/or profitable then Apple and HTC would not be offering 64gb phones. You do not know the market as well as you claim you do.

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    05-20-2013 07:27 PM
  24. rkeenan's Avatar
    Holy Crap another person who knows about Burzum! \o/ I can say I have been feeling the EXACT same way about the phones that have been coming out. The HTC One would have been a great option, but it isn't coming to VZW and AT&T has the 64GB version exclusively. I was VERY hopeful to jump to WP from my Bold 9930, but it doesn't offer enough storage for pictures, video, music, maps, apps, etc. to suit MY needs either. As such, I will muddle through with my 40GB (32GB SD + 8GB internal) 9930 until something better comes along.



    I don't know that I agree. Google's own Nexus phones no longer include SD cards nor much storage. They are pushing the cloud. MS is pushing the Cloud. Apple is pushing the cloud. And all of this is at a time where unlimited data plans are vanishing. These companies know exactly what they are doing alright. Streaming audio eats up data, provides subscription revenue, and/or ad revenue. Apple offers the option of 16, 32, and 64 for iPhones, iPads (128GB included), and iPods. Even Nokia thought it was important enough to launch their sole MeeGo phone (N9) with a 64GB option, despite killing the OS before the phone had arrived to market. I own one (N9) and dearly love the device, but am unable to use it as a phone on VZW due to the nature of their network (CDMA).

    Also, keep in mind that some of us travel a lot and may not live in cities. Travelers don't have access to data at all while flying and it can be spotty when traveling through rural areas. I live in a rural area, approximately 200miles from the nearest City, and while coverage is good where I live (3G), it becomes increasingly unreliable while outside of the small towns or while traveling through the mountains. This is why I prefer large capacity storage and offline maps/navigation. It may not be necessary for the majority of users, but options are good regardless, right? Besides, if our only options would be defined by the majority, there would only be Samsung Galaxy and iPhones as options. Isn't that the same thing, since the small minority of people want something different (BB10, WP7/8)?

    ~Ex
    Haha yes, Burzum is rather amazing. I am quite fond of black metal. I agree thay if the iPhone and HTC wouldn't profit from a 64GB phone, then it would not be made. They might make a slight lower profit margin but it is still an available options because some users desire it. Companies that provide less options will receive less customers. I will not compromise because a company wants to limit my opinions.

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    05-20-2013 07:34 PM
  25. WizeGuyDezignz's Avatar
    Obviously most people buy the cheapest phone but if the extra storage option was not viable and/or profitable then Apple and HTC would not be offering 64gb phones. You do not know the market as well as you claim you do.

    Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk 2
    Yeah, they are making offerings to their minority market. Which is why only a small percentage of smartphones come with 64gb on board.

    I never claimed to be an expert but I know the difference between minority and majority markets.
    05-20-2013 08:41 PM
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