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  1. WhyFiNYC's Avatar
    I think Verizon has something to do with this...

    They probably screwed up FM Radio like they did with Group Messaging.
    ....or maybe they just want you to consume more data by accessing your music stored in the cloud...

    /tinfoil hat
    08-17-2013 07:20 AM
  2. Trevor Halsey's Avatar
    Diag tool? tried the old method ##634# please post back I have the L810 and will call Nokia tomorrow to complain, I also tweeted the complaint.

    I don't remember exactly which Lumia it was, but I only saw the tool on Nokia remote device. Its not on any of the consumer devices, afaik. Its just an app called diagnostics that seems to just sit nicely in their app list.

    Sent from my RM-860 (Lumia 928) using the OFFICIAL Tapatalk app.
    08-17-2013 09:02 AM
  3. TechFreak1's Avatar
    Just because the chip supports fm-radio, it doesn't mean all the required hardware is installed. I remember back in the day with the TP2 everybody stated that it had support for a fm-radio but we found out the hadware wasn't installed on the cdma chip. Other GSM carriers that carried the phone had the fm-radio enabled except for Verizon and sprint.
    .

    Yea that was bloody nuisance .. I would imagine Verizon either screwed up the update but who knows they may have deliberately disabled it.
    08-17-2013 09:17 AM
  4. lippidp's Avatar
    I hope you dudes are able to get this resolved. The important lesson to take away from this is to always buy a phone that does what you want as is and never expect an update no matter what you read or someone tells you. We've seen it time and time again where promised updates never come or don't work as advertised. It is sad that it has come to this, but this is the reality in the cell phone industry regardless of OS, make, or model.
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    08-17-2013 09:25 AM
  5. Yeahha's Avatar
    ....or maybe they just want you to consume more data by accessing your music stored in the cloud...

    /tinfoil hat
    I was thinking the same thing...Them pushing tiered data so much...guess I am lucky to still have my unlimited data...sadly I wanted the FM radio to listen to football games at work...where I get crappy signal...used to use my old Android phones for the same thing...

    Reminds me of when they played with the bluetooth on the V710

    http://forums.windowscentral.com/e?l...token=i9Fdu1dq
    froogs likes this.
    08-17-2013 09:37 AM
  6. pankaj981's Avatar
    What's you source for that ?
    it has the 8960 so the chip supports it (technically), also i mentioned there MIGHT be an update so just speculating :P
    08-17-2013 09:48 AM
  7. DavidinCT's Avatar
    I was thinking the same thing...Them pushing tiered data so much...guess I am lucky to still have my unlimited data...sadly I wanted the FM radio to listen to football games at work...where I get crappy signal...used to use my old Android phones for the same thing...

    Reminds me of when they played with the bluetooth on the V710

    http://forums.windowscentral.com/e?l...token=y90NPue8
    Man, I remember that... that V710 I waited like 6-8 months for that phone to be released and was there the day Verizon opened with that phone. How times have changed...
    08-17-2013 09:49 AM
  8. Yeahha's Avatar
    it has the 8960 so the chip supports it (technically), also i mentioned there MIGHT be an update so just speculating :P
    Yeah there could always be another update...just seems odd that they chose to not include it with this one since well all the other lumina phones are getting it with this update...I am a proud wearer of the tinfoil hat that VZW is behind this to push for folks to chew up their data plans...
    Man, I remember that... that V710 I waited like 6-8 months for that phone to be released and was there the day Verizon opened with that phone. How times have changed...
    Yeah I know the feeling...I was waiting for months to get the thunderbolt, the galaxy nexus, and the 928...I was sore when VZW didn't get a 920 variant with all the other carriers...I am in the same boat as you with the looking forward to the radio...I suppose that better camera is nice and all but that wasn't what I was looking forward to...
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    08-17-2013 10:16 AM
  9. smurfercom's Avatar
    Nokia tweeted a reply and said this.


    #NL810 @updatetheL810


    @NokiaCareUS Why no FM radio and no WFC. - 17 Aug

    Nokia Care US @NokiaCareUS


    @updatetheL810 It doesn't have the hardware required for FM radio, but new update brings the Nokia Smart Camera. bit.ly/14VcWKH ^RS

    11:15 AM - 17 Aug 13
    08-17-2013 12:41 PM
  10. pechio's Avatar
    Nokia tweeted a reply and said this.


    #NL810 @updatetheL810


    @NokiaCareUS Why no FM radio and no WFC. - 17 Aug

    Nokia Care US @NokiaCareUS


    @updatetheL810 It doesn't have the hardware required for FM radio, but new update brings the Nokia Smart Camera. bit.ly/14VcWKH ^RS

    11:15 AM - 17 Aug 13
    That's interesting, someone is pulling someone's leg:
    Nokia Lumia 928 - Full phone specifications
    and https://community.verizonwireless.co.../987737#987737
    08-17-2013 01:51 PM
  11. PPCFreak's Avatar
    Yep so that is false advertising on Verizon part and possibly Nokia/MS as well.
    08-17-2013 03:02 PM
  12. 11B1P's Avatar
    Please look at the Nokia website -> here <- The only radio Nokia specifies is Internet Radio, nothing about FM radio. It will be about 3/4 of the way down the page. Sorry.
    08-17-2013 03:15 PM
  13. falconrap's Avatar
    This is definitely class action lawsuit material. All of the specs out there state it's FM radio capable. If, by some miracle, they have some special version of the chip without FM radio support, then it is at lease false advertisement. If the chip is in there and they are disabling it, despite the specs showing it supports that, then that's another ballgame, and Verizon really needs to watch what they are doing. They're history of doing this is going to really cost them a ton of money at some point.
    08-17-2013 03:26 PM
  14. smurfercom's Avatar
    I'm using the 925 as an example I re tweeted and asked what the difference is between our phones and the 925. Let's see what they have to say about that.
    08-17-2013 03:38 PM
  15. 11B1P's Avatar
    This is definitely class action lawsuit material. All of the specs out there state it's FM radio capable. If, by some miracle, they have some special version of the chip without FM radio support, then it is at lease false advertisement. If the chip is in there and they are disabling it, despite the specs showing it supports that, then that's another ballgame, and Verizon really needs to watch what they are doing. They're history of doing this is going to really cost them a ton of money at some point.
    If you're looking at specs from a website other than Nokia, it is possible that info is wrong. The Nokia site clearly shows only Internet Radio. There is nothing mentioned about FM.

    Is it possible the other sites were just copying and pasting the specs from the L920 to make their job easier?
    08-17-2013 06:27 PM
  16. pechio's Avatar
    If you're looking at specs from a website other than Nokia, it is possible that info is wrong. The Nokia site clearly shows only Internet Radio. There is nothing mentioned about FM.

    Is it possible the other sites were just copying and pasting the specs from the L920 to make their job easier?
    What kind of a phone feature is "internet radio"? It comes with the phone preloaded or you download an app using internet?
    I will request a phone change to 8X.
    AT&T rocks..lol
    08-17-2013 07:33 PM
  17. 11B1P's Avatar
    What kind of a phone feature is "internet radio"? It comes with the phone preloaded or you download an app using internet?
    You got me, I have no clue what it means.
    08-17-2013 07:41 PM
  18. pechio's Avatar
    You got me, I have no clue what it means.
    yes you know
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    08-17-2013 07:58 PM
  19. pechio's Avatar
    Must be a hardware limitation with the CDMA+LTE radio vs the GSM+LTE radio on the 920s.
    Does it mean that CDMA+LTE is an inferior technology?
    Here is a screenshot from my old CDMA+LTE Thunderbolt
    screenshot_2013-08-17-18-13-25.png
    08-17-2013 08:21 PM
  20. Trevor Halsey's Avatar
    Even Verizon's trophy had fm......... And that was cdma+GSM. The major difference is that this has LTE and the LTE AWS band that will be included in a different update later.



    Sent from my RM-860 (Lumia 928) using the OFFICIAL Tapatalk app.
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    08-18-2013 12:48 AM
  21. ddartman7's Avatar
    Just because the chip supports fm-radio, it doesn't mean all the required hardware is installed. I remember back in the day with the TP2 everybody stated that it had support for a fm-radio but we found out the hadware wasn't installed on the cdma chip. Other GSM carriers that carried the phone had the fm-radio enabled except for Verizon and sprint.
    Do your research on the Snapdragon S4 with MSM8960 Chipset. FM radio IS integrated into the chipset as part of the Modem Subsystem. This is the exact chipset found in the 822, 920, 928, 925 and 1020 from Nokia as well as several phones from other manufactures. My first reaction was to blame VZW but the more I watch this, the more it becomes apparent to me that Nokia effed up in their Amber Update for the 928
    qualcomm_snapdragon_s4_block_diagram.jpg

    http://gsmarena.com is an excellent resource for finding specific phone specs.
    Last edited by ddartman7; 08-18-2013 at 01:23 AM. Reason: Added GSMArena link.
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    08-18-2013 01:07 AM
  22. pechio's Avatar
    Even Verizon's trophy had fm......... And that was cdma+GSM. The major difference is that this has LTE and the LTE AWS band that will be included in a different update later.
    Sent from my RM-860 (Lumia 928) using the OFFICIAL Tapatalk app.
    Do you think that the FM radio would interfere with the future use of LTE AWS?
    08-18-2013 01:14 AM
  23. virexix's Avatar
    I think I've got it figured out. Verizon is most likely the culprit, disabling it. According to Listen to FM radio | Windows Phone How-to (United States),
    Depending on your mobile operator, phone model, and version of the Windows Phone operating system, FM radio may not be available on your phone.
    Does anyone want to make a petition to send to Nokia, Microsoft, and Verizon? I even chatted with Nokia online yesterday, and this Nokia and Verizon aren't telling us something : windowsphone is my conversation.
    08-18-2013 01:28 AM
  24. pechio's Avatar
    I think I've got it figured out. Verizon is most likely the culprit, disabling it. According to Listen to FM radio | Windows Phone How-to (United States), Does anyone want to make a petition to send to Nokia, Microsoft, and Verizon? I even chatted with Nokia online yesterday, and this Nokia and Verizon aren't telling us something : windowsphone is my conversation.
    I am ready to sign one.
    08-18-2013 01:59 AM
  25. bazurk's Avatar
    I contacted Microsoft about the false advertising and it was escalated. I will tell you guys how it turns out.
    08-18-2013 02:46 AM
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