11-09-2013 01:37 AM
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  1. grunge100's Avatar
    The camera seems to work real nice with daylight shots, but at night the camera seems to struggle.

    This picture was taken in night mode, the room was fairly well lit.
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    All of my night pictures turn out this way. Am I missing something, some setting that I may of overlooked? All help is appreciated. Or is this camera not what it's supposed to be.
    11-05-2013 06:21 PM
  2. kb4000's Avatar
    What is your main complaint? The blurriness? Since I have never seen how this picture should look it's hard to tell what the problem is. Mine works great at night.



    Sent from my Lumia 928 using Tapatalk
    Last edited by kb4000; 11-05-2013 at 06:44 PM.
    11-05-2013 06:31 PM
  3. grunge100's Avatar
    Exactly, the pictures seem to be blurry. What are your setting that you use for low light pics?
    11-05-2013 07:59 PM
  4. grunge100's Avatar
    Another one taken in low light, not dark by any means, using Nokia pro cam. The pic is not sharp at all, my old Trophy can rival this photo--which is really crummy.

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    11-05-2013 08:14 PM
  5. Penny_1's Avatar
    Exactly, the pictures seem to be blurry. What are your setting that you use for low light pics?
    Here's what I would try using Nokia Pro Cam:
    - Manually set ISO to 200. You want to stick within the 100-400 range for most shots. Never go above 800.
    - Hold the phone very still when taking the photo.

    The grain you are getting is largely from ISO shooting up. A smartphone will default to raising the ISO because it doesn't expect the user to hold the phone very still. If you manually set the ISO to a lower number, the software will instead increase the exposure time to compensate. This will reduce the grain, but you have to hold the phone still or you will get blur. Let us know how it goes.
    11-05-2013 08:22 PM
  6. grunge100's Avatar
    Night mode, ISO 200 with flash

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    Night mode, ISO 200 without flash: 2.8 second exposure

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    Do these look better? I am wondering if it is the hardware?(something is not functioning correctly) I bought this off contract at ebay, and I do not like getting hosed.

    Thanks for your feedback.
    11-05-2013 08:41 PM
  7. rcazador's Avatar
    Night mode, ISO 200 with flash

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    Night mode, ISO 200 without flash: 2.8 second exposure

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    Do these look better? I am wondering if it is the hardware?(something is not functioning correctly) I bought this off contract at ebay, and I do not like getting hosed.

    Thanks for your feedback.
    2.8 seconds without motion blur? Thats a crazy long exposure.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
    11-05-2013 08:53 PM
  8. azcruz's Avatar
    Well, if you're taking shots at 1/10 or below what can you expect? Not even a point and shoot or DSLR can save you from that, but a tripod will :)
    11-05-2013 08:57 PM
  9. grunge100's Avatar
    LOL. Steady hands.. Do you think the camera is functioning correctly?
    11-05-2013 08:58 PM
  10. grunge100's Avatar
    azcruz, I do not know what to expect. I just got this phone so maybe my camera expectations are a little over the top.
    11-05-2013 09:00 PM
  11. azcruz's Avatar
    It is not the device, it is the condition of shooting and the scene. As previously mentioned, the ISO will cause a lot of noise to show up in your photos. At ISO 200 the shutter needs to be open longer (for more light to get into the sensor) and object shake (not in this case as it is still) or photographer shake (due to lack of tripod) are the common issues.
    11-05-2013 09:04 PM
  12. Penny_1's Avatar
    Night mode, ISO 200 with flash

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    Night mode, ISO 200 without flash: 2.8 second exposure

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    Do these look better? I am wondering if it is the hardware?(something is not functioning correctly) I bought this off contract at ebay, and I do not like getting hosed.

    Thanks for your feedback.
    First of all, if you were holding the phone in your hands, I am amazed that the second photo looks as clear as it does with a 2.8 second exposure. That is some impressive steadiness.

    I think these photos look MUCH better, and what you should probably expect from the camera. If you are at all disappointed with these results, keep in mind that you are presenting the camera with a fairly challenging shooting situation. Very few smartphones would be able to offer comparable results, and that's just the way it is with smartphone technology at the moment.

    So no, I don't see anything wrong with these shots that would indicate you got a bad device. Take the phone out tomorrow in the daytime and try shooting in a few different situations to see how it comes out. I can tell you right now that one of the great strengths of the 928 is macro photography, so hopefully you should be able to see some satisfying results there.
    11-05-2013 09:37 PM
  13. Funky Cricket's Avatar
    I never change modes, use the default camera and I have great shots night or day. They rival my point and shoot cannon.

    I'm not sure how you are taking the pictures or what modes, but I have no issues. try the same shots side by side with a different phone camera and see if they compare (also, try default settings as well, with out manually changing modes or the default camera, maybe it's a setting you set).
    11-06-2013 11:02 AM
  14. grunge100's Avatar
    I appreciate your input, I will continue to mess around with the settings to get better photos. This phone camera takes really nice outdoor photo's but the indoor ones are a different story (using auto settings) I may have been expecting too much, but that's ok. BTW I have a Cannon SX260 point and shoot, and the 928 cannot rival it indoors at all.
    11-06-2013 03:33 PM
  15. Muessig's Avatar
    I don't know if you'd find this helpful or not, but take a look at this thread: http://forums.windowscentral.com/gui...Bguide%5D.html
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    11-06-2013 03:36 PM
  16. grunge100's Avatar
    Muessig, Great write up, I will be experimenting later this evening. Cheers
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    11-06-2013 04:06 PM
  17. PB_H's Avatar
    I appreciate your input, I will continue to mess around with the settings to get better photos. This phone camera takes really nice outdoor photo's but the indoor ones are a different story (using auto settings) I may have been expecting too much, but that's ok. BTW I have a Cannon SX260 point and shoot, and the 928 cannot rival it indoors at all.
    Are you serious ? the Canon is almost as big as the phone and it's only a CAMERA and you want to the 928 to rival the SX260 -
    -you have unrealistic expectation.
    BTW the 928 doesn't fly either so don't try taking a trip anywhere soon on or in it
    Compare:
    CANON SX260 12.1MP ~ 6.17mm X 4.55mm sensor ~ F3.5 - F6.8 aperture ~ 4000 x 3000 Max image resolution ~ w/ a superb OS (Optical Stabilizer)
    vs
    Nokia 928 8.7 MP (effective 8PM/7.1MP ) ~ 4.80mm X 3.60mm sensor ~ fixed F2.0 aperture ~ 3556 X 2448 Max image resolution.

    Enjoy the camera on the 928 it's quite good
    but the Canon doesn't make very good phone calls.
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    11-07-2013 12:40 AM
  18. Jazmac's Avatar
    Lumia 928 camera doesn't do pics as well as the 920 as a rule IMHO, but they are better than others. Take advantage of the links Mussing dropped. They helped me.
    11-07-2013 08:53 AM
  19. Funky Cricket's Avatar
    My cannon takes better shots, it's just a camera (and has optical zoom), but for shots to print as 4x5 for the photo album, I can't tell the difference. Best smart phone camera I have ever used.
    11-07-2013 10:52 AM
  20. psiu_glen's Avatar
    Here is something I did a while ago. You can see the grain and blur...but the bottom half is the screencap of the viewfinder as it looked at the time.

    3 months (L) and 3 years (R)

    :D

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    Also...I don't feel like the update to GDR3 and update to Nokia Camera (from Pro Cam) have helped...it seems a bit off lately, but hard to put my finger on why.
    11-07-2013 11:02 AM
  21. berty6294's Avatar
    Lumia 928 camera doesn't do pics as well as the 920 as a rule IMHO
    Yeah, the xenon flash and larger sensor size really hurts the 928...
    11-07-2013 11:33 AM
  22. psiu_glen's Avatar
    Yeah, the xenon flash and larger sensor size really hurts the 928...
    has the same sensor....
    11-07-2013 11:36 AM
  23. berty6294's Avatar
    has the same sensor....
    I'd double check your facts.

    920 1/3.2
    928 1/3.0
    11-07-2013 11:38 AM
  24. PB_H's Avatar
    Here is something I did a while ago. You can see the grain and blur...but the bottom half is the screencap of the viewfinder as it looked at the time.

    3 months (L) and 3 years (R)

    :D

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    Also...I don't feel like the update to GDR3 and update to Nokia Camera (from Pro Cam) have helped...it seems a bit off lately, but hard to put my finger on why.
    Those settings underlined in red mean WARNING you're gonna have a pretty crappy picture full of noise and
    @ a 2 sec exposure ( rule of thumb is under 1/30 sec = camera movement/blur) you gonna have blur.
    You might get away with 1/10 sec if you have a very steady hand -until that is you see the image full size, and you'll see blur
    but the hard to put my finger on it ? it's staring right at you -if that's your example of the issue then you might want to spend some time
    learning about photography and what happens when you're shooting in low light with high ISO -3200 and a super slow shutter speed.
    That is not a post GDR3 issue that is operator "error".

    Cute kids !
    Last edited by PB_H; 11-07-2013 at 02:30 PM.
    11-07-2013 02:00 PM
  25. Moiz Mian's Avatar
    The problem with auto is that it bumps the ISO all the way up to 1600 or 3200, and that's why your indoor pictures are looking bad. The second pic you took at ISO 200 is significantly better. For low-light indoor pictures like that, you should keep the iso to max 400 and manually set the white balance to incandescent or florescent. The big thing about indoor pictures on my 920 is that the white balance is almost always off. But anyway, your pictures look fine, I don't think there is anything wrong with it.
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    11-07-2013 02:59 PM
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