[11B1P]

I have to give money to Verizon regardless, I might as well have a phone that updates aren't depending on when Verizon can decide to get around to testing it.

Yeah, I can see the logic in that.

DP gives me the majority of the Cyan functionality. The only thing I'm aware of that I'm missing is BT LE. I need that for my heart rate monitor and possibly some other accessories. All the other features I get makes up for missing the BT.

[carlosirai]

And supposed to get lte band 4 activation right?

[AV2RY]

I'm using L928 in Europe so I'm not tied to Verizon.

You are not, but your phone is. If you want cyan you still have to wait until Verizon releases it

[InsaneToad]

Joe Belfiore just tweeted that work for the Verizon Cyan updates are underway but farther off!!! He did not specify a device.

[jasqid]

Verizon Wireless... killing you slowly.

[InsaneToad]

Verizon Wireless... killing you slowly.

He just went into a little more detail to say that bug fixes are the issue and that Verizon is taking the quality seriously. Again, He did not specify a device.

[Gunbust3r]

He just went into a little more detail to say that bug fixes are the issue and that Verizon is taking the quality seriously. Again, He did not specify a device.

I'm sure the bug fix is making sure the sabotaged MMS and other features stay broken if you dare try taking a Verizon Lumia to another carrier.

[KCandSunshine13]

Buffalo Bagels!! Then why does 8.1 already work with the HTC One??!!

[kuloc19690]

Verizon are working not bad!

[AV2RY]

Who remembers the issues with 928 right after it got Amber -freezing,rebooting etc. Verizon was one of first to release it. Maybe back then they didn't test good enough. So possibly they don't want (us) to have similar problems once again, and taking things more seriously. Black also was late but I don't remember having problems with that

[mjperry51]

Buffalo Bagels!! Then why does 8.1 already work with the HTC One??!!

Different hardware??

[tk-093]

Who remembers the issues with 928 right after it got Amber -freezing,rebooting etc. Verizon was one of first to release it. Maybe back then they didn't test good enough. So possibly they don't want (us) to have similar problems once again, and taking things more seriously. Black also was late but I don't remember having problems with that

That freezing issue sucked bad.. Had 5 of those devices in our office and all 5 had that issue. Their first update fixed it.

They maybe are also trying to get their Advanced Calling (VoLTE) going as well? That was supposed to launch with the 2nd Gen Moto X but they could not get it working in time either.

[Yazen]

Stop whining, good chance you guys are going to get Denim first, trust me ;)

EDIT: Joking about the whining part, serious about the Denim one

[mjperry51]

Stop whining, good chance you guys are going to get Denim first, trust me ;)

EDIT: Joking about the whining part, serious about the Denim one

Are you saying that VZW will release 8.1/Cyan/Denim at the same time??

[11B1P]

Are you saying that VZW will release 8.1/Cyan/Denim at the same time??

Highly unlikely. I don't expect to see Denim until spring 2015

[nwildcat]

Who remembers the issues with 928 right after it got Amber -freezing,rebooting etc. Verizon was one of first to release it. Maybe back then they didn't test good enough. So possibly they don't want (us) to have similar problems once again, and taking things more seriously. Black also was late but I don't remember having problems with that

This is actually why I haven't complained as much as I would. I had a bricked 822 and a bricked 928 because of clearly not doing enough testing before with that update. It was bad. It definitely shouldn't have taken as long as it has to get the new updates out, but I do think it's one of the reasons they are running more tests, they were replacing a lot of devices then. Quite a few people were reporting those permanent spinning wheels, it was not a fun time.

[KTBFH]

The developers preview is great and I am liking it on my Icon, but it still won't give you all the features a cyan upgrade would have (e.g. Bluetooth 4.0 which is needed to sync between the Fitbit and phone for example). It just bothers me that Verizon takes so long to make this update officially available. I wonder if you could somehow get them for breaching the contract. After all Microsoft is trying so hard to catch up in terms of apps etc. but we cannot enjoy them to its fullest extend because of the lack of the cyan update.

[Marcus Hock]

Very nearly ready to give up. Its December for crying out loud. And the fact that I'm hearing more about denim than cyan isn't comforting in the slightest.

[Andrew Brown3]

I feel your pain TMobile didn't get it until Oct 28th !! When ATT had it in end of July /Aug and Europe had it in May/June !!

[Beast of Haeven]

Very nearly ready to give up. Its December for crying out loud. And the fact that I'm hearing more about denim than cyan isn't comforting in the slightest.

I hear you I decided to go ahead and do the developer preview. I was worried at first because many tutorials mentioned updating the phone twice to get 8.1 under the preview program. My experience involved 4-5 updates before 8.1 was finally installed on the phone. Two of those updates almost rendered the phone unresponsive to touch. After all the updates were done I can honestly say it runs smooth and gives me no problems. If you plan on getting a new phone anyways like I do I would just do the developer preview for now.

[bdball]

Finally got fed up last night and installed the developers edition. Wow! I really like the new version. Not sure what we are not getting with the "official" version but I am enjoying the changes with the DE version. Wish my Surface 2's interface was more like the Windows phone 8.1 interface. Love the folders and Cortana seems much more useful then I thought it would be. I also enjoy being able to tweak the look of the homepage more.

[nwildcat]

I hear you I decided to go ahead and do the developer preview. I was worried at first because many tutorials mentioned updating the phone twice to get 8.1 under the preview program. My experience involved 4-5 updates before 8.1 was finally installed on the phone. Two of those updates almost rendered the phone unresponsive to touch. After all the updates were done I can honestly say it runs smooth and gives me no problems. If you plan on getting a new phone anyways like I do I would just do the developer preview for now.

This is my main concern and why I haven't done the developer preview yet because I'm screwed if things don't go well. In another week, I'm out of contract, so I'm installing it after that point because at least I'll have options if things don't go smoothly. I'm getting annoyed with 8.0, it still runs great, but I'm now unable to get a lot of apps because they are 8.1 only, so it's time. Though I was honestly, holding out hope that Verizon would have it done by now. It is very disappointing hearing that some will have Denim this month and we have nothing. I'd feel better knowing we'd get Cyan and Denim in one with definite date in January to make up for this ridiculous wait.

[Penny_1]

This is my main concern and why I haven't done the developer preview yet because I'm screwed if things don't go well. In another week, I'm out of contract, so I'm installing it after that point because at least I'll have options if things don't go smoothly. I'm getting annoyed with 8.0, it still runs great, but I'm now unable to get a lot of apps because they are 8.1 only, so it's time. Though I was honestly, holding out hope that Verizon would have it done by now. It is very disappointing hearing that some will have Denim this month and we have nothing. I'd feel better knowing we'd get Cyan and Denim in one with definite date in January to make up for this ridiculous wait.

I wouldn't worry about what's going on with others at this point. That is just surefire way to disappoint yourself if you're expecting Verizon to match any semblance of commitment to WP coming from other carriers. I'm entirely happy that I did the Developer's Preview. I hesitated initially, for a moment, back in April when the DP program was announcing the 8.1 update. I thought well, how long would I have to wait for the official update, really? Probably only a month or so. But happily I made the decision to join, and now I've been enjoying 8.1 for what, 7 or 8 months? We're still lagging behind here on Verizon, but I'm more confident in the DP program than I am in Verizon.

BTW all, I'm receiving an update for my Lumia 928 Developer's Preview as we speak. I think it says it is WP 8.10.14219.341. Not sure what this update entails, if anything.

[Penny_1]

Ah, ok, I guess this update was just announced by Windows Central as well anyway. It is an update for the Preview for Developers, not Cyan or anything. Nothing noticeably different to me anyway right now.

[carlosirai]

Its a update to bring cortana to a different languages