1. Oliverspin's Avatar
    They released the gosh darn updates!!! How do you feel?
    12-19-2014 12:09 PM
  2. Siah1214's Avatar
    Unless you own an icon. And they shouldn't have made us wait for Cyan.

    This has earned them some good will in my book though :-\
    12-19-2014 12:39 PM
  3. AndyFZ1S's Avatar
    Happy, Like a pig in sh*# Was about to put the 928 on ebay.
    12-19-2014 12:40 PM
  4. Dush Ku's Avatar
    Is it actually downloading and working? Maybe wait a couple days for servers getting slammed and any problem reports?
    12-19-2014 12:48 PM
  5. Penny_1's Avatar
    No, I still don't love them. I'm happy that they're on point with the release of Denim (mostly, no Icon yet), and that goes some way to making up for not getting us Cyan at all. But the fact remains that there was absolutely no communication from them regarding their plans or status, and that is unacceptable. They might be worried about managing user expectations, but I can assure them that leaving customers in the dark is the worst way to manage expectations. That have yet to rectify that mistake by being more transparent in the future, and then I can like them.
    SpaceyO, Kevin Rush, 11B1P and 1 others like this.
    12-19-2014 12:56 PM
  6. rebornempowered's Avatar
    We should love Microsoft instead. Clearly they have stepped up their game in releasing updates.
    ajb1965 and Kevin Rush like this.
    12-19-2014 12:58 PM
  7. SpaceyO's Avatar
    No, I still don't love them. I'm happy that they're on point with the release of Denim (mostly, no Icon yet), and that goes some way to making up for not getting us Cyan at all. But the fact remains that there was absolutely no communication from them regarding their plans or status, and that is unacceptable. They might be worried about managing user expectations, but I can assure them that leaving customers in the dark is the worst way to manage expectations. That have yet to rectify that mistake by being more transparent in the future, and then I can like them.
    Yeah, what he said.
    Kevin Rush likes this.
    12-19-2014 01:01 PM
  8. trekgraham's Avatar
    Being a former customer of ATT,Sprint,Nextel,Verizon,etc I've found that I love and stick with T-Mobile!
    I'd rate providers like this(1 best 4 worst)
    1. T-Mobile
    Price and customer service. Rollout of LTE is moving fast
    2. Sprint/Nextel
    Lesser of the three evils
    3. ATT
    Expensive
    4. Verizon
    Expensive and uses cdma(hate cdma)
    12-19-2014 01:02 PM
  9. Gunbust3r's Avatar
    Still hate. The old fashion powers that be in the office think Verizon has the best signal coverage so we pay them $10,000 more than what it would be using T-Mobile. Yeah because not having coverage on a mile of expressway for a few minutes is worth 10K
    12-19-2014 01:10 PM
  10. rhapdog's Avatar
    Verizon releasing updates for WP. Never saw that coming. Verizon users getting Denim before AT&T... Either I'm in the Twilight Zone or...

    This just happened.
    hellfrozeover.jpg
    aximtreo, xandros9 and 11B1P like this.
    12-19-2014 01:12 PM
  11. xandros9's Avatar
    We're all confused.
    I'm starting to think the carriers are taking turns being late and early.
    SpaceyO and Games Goblin like this.
    12-19-2014 01:19 PM
  12. EspHack's Avatar
    I just hate carriers in general, the only reason I bought a 928 instead of a 920-925 was because it was better all-around, most features of both combined, I hope that doesn't happen again, I'm not willing to have to deal with a freaking carrier again, seems like the icon its just a 930 60% uglier(logos) so I hope it stays that way so I wont get tempted again... that xenon flash...
    12-19-2014 07:08 PM
  13. several potatos's Avatar
    Being a former customer of ATT,Sprint,Nextel,Verizon,etc I've found that I love and stick with T-Mobile!
    I'd rate providers like this(1 best 4 worst)
    1. T-Mobile
    Price and customer service. Rollout of LTE is moving fast
    2. Sprint/Nextel
    Lesser of the three evils
    3. ATT
    Expensive
    4. Verizon
    Expensive and uses cdma(hate cdma)
    Glad to see a happy T-Mobile customer.
    12-19-2014 07:11 PM
  14. mjrtoo's Avatar
    So can you be on a call and seems an email at the same time...yet?
    12-19-2014 07:15 PM
  15. link68759's Avatar
    Being a former customer of ATT,Sprint,Nextel,Verizon,etc I've found that I love and stick with T-Mobile!
    I'd rate providers like this(1 best 4 worst)
    1. T-Mobile
    Price and customer service. Rollout of LTE is moving fast
    2. Sprint/Nextel
    Lesser of the three evils
    3. ATT
    Expensive
    4. Verizon
    Expensive and uses cdma(hate cdma)

    Has sprint stopped using cdma then? Sprint's service is poor and their selection of phones is poorer. I'd like to be a tmobile fan but their coverage leaves something to be desired, and their world coverage is very poor.
    At&t is expensive and evil, but also has vast global coverage, reliability and speed.

    Imo, sprint and Verizon can equally share "worst" status (though Verizon as a political entity is definitely most evil). And at&t vs tmobile is really a matter of where you live and how much you travel.
    Nicholas Maguire likes this.
    12-19-2014 07:32 PM
  16. trekgraham's Avatar
    T-Mobile has been adding towers and converting towers to 4G/LTE like crazy. A few months ago my area was only 2G and now it's LTE
    12-19-2014 07:36 PM
  17. bdball's Avatar
    Still waiting for my 928 to get an update. Just checked again and still not there.
    jasqid and Yazen like this.
    12-19-2014 07:37 PM
  18. Yazen's Avatar
    I stated several times in Verizon related news that they would be getting Denim first. Not entirely Verizon's fault for late Cyan release ...
    People need to understand that carriers are paying for these updates. Neither you nor Verizon wants a shoddy firmware update borking your phone.

    IMO Verizon specific apps are pretty much useless, and they do take time to maintain. In this sense, Verizon is partially responsible for the delays lol
    12-19-2014 08:00 PM
  19. Nokia_Lumia's Avatar
    I love Verizon!!! +928! So glad I didn't jump ship to ATT or T-noservice-mobile. I was about to get an 830. 928 provides equally good performance in all areas except for lacking the micro-SD. It also is, in my opinion, the most well balanced Windows Phone available in terms of features/size. Simply a joy to use now!
    12-19-2014 10:32 PM
  20. stephen_az's Avatar
    I stated several times in Verizon related news that they would be getting Denim first. Not entirely Verizon's fault for late Cyan release ...
    People need to understand that carriers are paying for these updates. Neither you nor Verizon wants a shoddy firmware update borking your phone.

    IMO Verizon specific apps are pretty much useless, and they do take time to maintain. In this sense, Verizon is partially responsible for the delays lol
    FWIW, yes I agree VZW's apps are pretty useless. I also think though that this release is consistent with my position from the start. There really were problems with the Cyan update on VZW's network and that they worked with Microsoft to get them addressed as part of Denim. Leaving aside 928 and 822, my own opinion (as well) is the commentary yesterday further demonstrates they are committed to an Icon update but that there are problems with that phone. I am more and more convinced it was retired because of something that neither Microsoft nor VZW are willing to discuss in public.

    As for the OP's question regarding loving VZW, I don't love any company. The situation, however, does demonstrate their commitment to the WP platform. They beat every major US carrier on a release others are not even expecting until the new year, and the HTC One (or whatever they call it) got its own updates as well. Even Microsoft has been implying and/or stating US customers should not expect Denim until the new year. VZW also did not make this some big PR event - simply released it as one would expect with any other update. It conveys to me a business as usual philosophy, not special circumstances, and that it was released precisely when they decided it was ready. I am sure though there will be people around here who will still find some personal justification to complain.

    Oh, I also expect that we should start hearing the AT&T and T-Mobile contingent complaining shortly. The grass is always greener is a consistent philosophy around here regardless of platform....
    Last edited by stephen_az; 12-20-2014 at 09:02 AM.
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    12-20-2014 08:51 AM
  21. stephen_az's Avatar
    I love Verizon!!! +928! So glad I didn't jump ship to ATT or T-noservice-mobile. I was about to get an 830. 928 provides equally good performance in all areas except for lacking the micro-SD. It also is, in my opinion, the most well balanced Windows Phone available in terms of features/size. Simply a joy to use now!
    Personally, I agree except I never considered switching platforms and will never express love for any company (a bit too 1984 for my tastes). VZW is the only phone network that works in the off the beaten tracks parts of the southwest I travel (and some military bases). When my original 928 was damaged last month I picked up a new one on Amazon for $274. It is the perfect size for me and now the performance is back to exceptional.
    12-20-2014 08:57 AM
  22. anon(9057135)'s Avatar
    I prefer T-Mobile. If it took them 8 months to release an update, that sad.
    12-20-2014 09:04 AM
  23. tgp's Avatar
    Oh, I also expect that we should start hearing the AT&T and T-Mobile contingent complaining shortly. The grass is always greener is a consistent philosophy around here regardless of platform....
    That's basically what I said not very long ago. Earlier this year Verizon was heralded as the WP king when they released the Icon and the M8 for Windows. Now they're the first in the US to start rolling out Denim, and right behind the very first devices upgraded to Denim worldwide.
    12-20-2014 09:37 AM
  24. rhapdog's Avatar
    Oh, I also expect that we should start hearing the AT&T and T-Mobile contingent complaining shortly. The grass is always greener is a consistent philosophy around here regardless of platform....
    I'm on AT&T. You won't hear me complaining. I'm patient, and expect Denim to be released when it is ready. I am certainly looking forward to it with great anticipation, but less so than my wife and I both having time off together next week with our children for several days over the Christmas holiday. When we've both got time off to spend with the kids, I'm never reaching for the phone, so I don't get all hyped and paranoid over not having something. I guess I just never got addicted like 90% or more of today's users.
    tgp likes this.
    12-20-2014 10:33 AM
  25. hydrosmith's Avatar
    Nope, still not loving Verizon as I still have lousy coverage at work while my coworkers who have at&t and sprint have no problems. However I will stop complaining and bashing them as I am now happy with the performance of my phone. The faster camera is much nicer and the fact that it updated flawlessly with developer preview was sweet. Next month I am still dumping Verizon and activating a 1520 I bought a few weeks ago on Cricket.
    12-21-2014 03:56 AM

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