04-11-2014 06:46 AM
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  1. Qais Abu-Hasan's Avatar
    Hey all,
    I love the Nokia lumia 930 but I think that this flagship needs something in order to compete with other flagships so it must pack some of the new features there. Water and dust Resistance is one of the most wanted and loved features , for me I was a bit disappointed that it doesn't has this thing , moreover a fingerprint scanner is missing - that's not a big deal for me, but it is for water and dust Resistance , which would be very beneficial.
    How about you ?? Does it really matter to have a flagship that is NOT water and dust resistant or this might make you think again before buying the lumia 930?!

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    humanhowever likes this.
    04-02-2014 05:30 PM
  2. SSgt Bruskowiz's Avatar
    I believe it depents on the kind of work and or hobby's you do.
    I worked a lot outside, in wind, snow and rain and sometimes i had to go in the water and dirt.
    So yea i think it does matter.
    If your always at home or in a nice clean office, shop, school or whatever i think it doesnt realy matters.
    But you are a constructionworker or a firefighter or maybe even a soldier than i think it does.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    04-02-2014 05:54 PM
  3. Moiz Mian's Avatar
    They just recycled the Verizon Icon, I think either they got lazy, or they have something more exciting coming later, which is why ATT didn't announce that they would be getting the 930. Hopefully that will have some cooler new hardware. If this is all they got for the next 12 months, then shame on them.
    04-02-2014 05:54 PM
  4. DJCBS's Avatar
    Well it depends on what you consider "water resistant". And if you're not mixing it with waterproof.

    For example, while the Galaxy S5 is IP67, the Xperia Z, Z1, Z1C and Z2 are IP58. Which means that while the S5 can be splattered and quickly washed, it can't be immersed during a long time nor bellow 1m. The Z2, on the other hand, albeit the apparent lower number, CAN be continuously immersed underwater, which makes it waterproof and not just water resistant.

    As for me, neither are essential features of a phone. Nokia's build quality make up for the lack of IP certification. And yet the Lumias are water resistant to a certain point. If you quickly drop them under water, it will still work and if you drop your wine over it, it won't die.
    I would rather see Sony to a certain degree and certainly Samsung adopting Nokia's build quality than to see Nokia worried about IP certifications.
    Laura Knotek and James8561 like this.
    04-02-2014 06:05 PM
  5. Moiz Mian's Avatar
    Well it depends on what you consider "water resistant". And if you're not mixing it with waterproof.

    For example, while the Galaxy S5 is IP67, the Xperia Z, Z1, Z1C and Z2 are IP58. Which means that while the S5 can be splattered and quickly washed, it can't be immersed during a long time nor bellow 1m. The Z2, on the other hand, albeit the apparent lower number, CAN be continuously immersed underwater, which makes it waterproof and not just water resistant.

    As for me, neither are essential features of a phone. Nokia's build quality make up for the lack of IP certification. And yet the Lumias are water resistant to a certain point. If you quickly drop them under water, it will still work and if you drop your wine over it, it won't die.
    I would rather see Sony to a certain degree and certainly Samsung adopting Nokia's build quality than to see Nokia worried about IP certifications.
    I would argue Sony's build quality is a step above Nokia's these days. They're Xperia Z line is all glass and aluminum, 6mm thin, light, AND with bigger batteries. I think Nokia could learn a thing or two from Sony. :) These plastic Lumia's are getting way overdone. How about a colorful aluminum like the N8's?
    04-02-2014 06:20 PM
  6. Zacharyw70's Avatar
    They just recycled the Verizon Icon, I think either they got lazy, or they have something more exciting coming later, which is why ATT didn't announce that they would be getting the 930. Hopefully that will have some cooler new hardware. If this is all they got for the next 12 months, then shame on them.
    I doubt AT&T is going to be getting any "Special" top secret phone, they'll likely get the Lumia 930 as well. Introducing the Lumia 930, and then later introducing a better phone would really be a middle finger to their consumer base.
    04-02-2014 08:04 PM
  7. Zacharyw70's Avatar
    I would argue Sony's build quality is a step above Nokia's these days. They're Xperia Z line is all glass and aluminum, 6mm thin, light, AND with bigger batteries. I think Nokia could learn a thing or two from Sony. :) These plastic Lumia's are getting way overdone. How about a colorful aluminum like the N8's?
    Sony's phones are way too squared off, (Although it appears that is going to happen with the L930) and unless it's on the display I don't see why anyone would use glass on a phone given how easily breakable it can be.
    04-02-2014 08:06 PM
  8. maverick786us's Avatar
    Sony's phones are way too squared off, (Although it appears that is going to happen with the L930) and unless it's on the display I don't see why anyone would use glass on a phone given how easily breakable it can be.
    How about Sapphire glass? Glass gives a premium look and feel
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    04-02-2014 08:18 PM
  9. Squachy's Avatar
    water/dust resistance is just a gimmick that is being utilized now because every kind of priority requirement thing that can one up the competition has been reached (faster processors, better cameras, larger screens, voice assistants, etc) Now we get semi useless stuff like fingerprint scanners, waterproofing and dustproofing because there's nothing really anyone can do to 'outdo' the competition. Do they have their uses? sure, but they aren't deal breaker items. Maybe for bragging rights but that's about it.
    raycpl likes this.
    04-02-2014 08:32 PM
  10. DJCBS's Avatar
    I would argue Sony's build quality is a step above Nokia's these days. They're Xperia Z line is all glass and aluminum, 6mm thin, light, AND with bigger batteries. I think Nokia could learn a thing or two from Sony. :) These plastic Lumia's are getting way overdone. How about a colorful aluminum like the N8's?
    Well, I never had any complains about Nokia hardware in 15 years. Though yeah, the Lumia build quality isn't what I was used to from Nokia, but still, no complains (apart from the darn dust in the ffc on the 920).
    But I must say I was really impressed with Sony's build quality. And yeah, the fact that Sony's Z2 presents a similar phone to the 930 but with better specs all around in a similar format and for a cheaper price is one of the big reasons I was utterly disappointed the 930 improved nothing over the Icon.
    04-02-2014 10:13 PM
  11. DJCBS's Avatar
    Sony's phones are way too squared off, (Although it appears that is going to happen with the L930) and unless it's on the display I don't see why anyone would use glass on a phone given how easily breakable it can be.
    Actually Sony uses Dragontrail Glass which is similar to Gorilla Glass but I think it's more resistant to scratches (which's why people complained so much about the anti-shatter film Sony placed upon the screens until the Z2). At any rate it's not "glass" as used on the old iPhone models.
    I'm not MAD about the use of Dragon glass (yeah, I'm cutting the "trail" on purpose. I think some people will get the reference ;P) on the front AND back of the devices, but God does it provide a really classy, high end feeling to the phones.

    I was also pretty concerned about the resistance but after seeing a Z1 go through hell and back, my fears were washed away. Still, I would rather Sony would use aluminium, magnesium or polycarbonate on the back of the phone...just in case.
    BIGPADDY likes this.
    04-02-2014 10:20 PM
  12. Ejay Lozano's Avatar
    I don't care, I just want it to have at least 32GB of memory and most importantly built-in Qi wireless charging. AT&T don't screw this up!!!
    04-03-2014 12:22 AM
  13. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    How about Sapphire glass? Glass gives a premium look and feel
    I agree. Sapphire glass crystals on watches are nice.
    BIGPADDY likes this.
    04-03-2014 01:00 AM
  14. Tafsern's Avatar
    How about Sapphire glass? Glass gives a premium look and feel
    Sapphire glass on a phone is not better than Gorilla Glass. Corning Feature: Gorilla Glass Now Found On More Than 1.5 Billion Devices
    04-03-2014 01:34 AM
  15. Narathan's Avatar
    Not to mention the high(er) costs on sapphire glass. this wouldn't do well on sales I bet and people still somehow manage to nick and brick their phones anyway. I seriously know people that toss their device across the room and expect it to remain scratchless.

    Anyhow, I *really* hope to see more devices getting that IP certificate. I've lost a handful of devices to rain and to be honest, my Xperia Z is pretty awesome when it comes to it being possible to be cleansed in water to remove all the dust and clutter that builds up in the microphone and speaker grill.
    04-03-2014 02:05 AM
  16. bionicgt's Avatar
    Well it depends on what you consider "water resistant". And if you're not mixing it with waterproof.

    For example, while the Galaxy S5 is IP67, the Xperia Z, Z1, Z1C and Z2 are IP58. Which means that while the S5 can be splattered and quickly washed, it can't be immersed during a long time nor bellow 1m. The Z2, on the other hand, albeit the apparent lower number, CAN be continuously immersed underwater, which makes it waterproof and not just water resistant.

    As for me, neither are essential features of a phone. Nokia's build quality make up for the lack of IP certification. And yet the Lumias are water resistant to a certain point. If you quickly drop them under water, it will still work and if you drop your wine over it, it won't die.
    I would rather see Sony to a certain degree and certainly Samsung adopting Nokia's build quality than to see Nokia worried about IP certifications.
    That doesn't mean they're still one step ahead lol, but anywyas... let's hope Nokia delivers durable phones in the coming months!
    04-03-2014 12:18 PM
  17. three_thoughts's Avatar
    waterproof phones are annoying because of the flaps covering all the ports. I plug wires into my phone much more often than I get it wet.
    04-04-2014 05:30 AM
  18. Coreldan's Avatar
    I believe it depents on the kind of work and or hobby's you do.
    I worked a lot outside, in wind, snow and rain and sometimes i had to go in the water and dirt.
    So yea i think it does matter.
    If your always at home or in a nice clean office, shop, school or whatever i think it doesnt realy matters.
    But you are a constructionworker or a firefighter or maybe even a soldier than i think it does.
    This, for me it really makes no difference. Ofc I wouldn't say no to it, but if it adds fe. more bulk or more price it might not be worth it for me. Then again fe. my dad would have no point in having any phone that isn't dust, water and shock resistant.
    04-04-2014 05:34 AM
  19. maverick786us's Avatar
    Dust will wear - tear your device, so if its dust resistant, it will make a difference. If you want to take underwater photograph, then if its water resistant, it will matter. For me it is important to be dust resistant
    humanhowever likes this.
    04-04-2014 06:06 AM
  20. Coreldan's Avatar
    Dust will wear - tear your device, so if its dust resistant, it will make a difference. If you want to take underwater photograph, then if its water resistant, it will matter. For me it is important to be dust resistant
    Water resistant typically isn't enough to save from being submerged, at least not for many seconds, for that it would have to be water PROOF. There have been plenty of sort of.. examples from the court how there is a major difference in these two words. Manufacturers can typically get away with any water damage even if the phone is said to be water resistant. But it's different if it's actually water proof :P
    04-04-2014 06:41 AM
  21. Joe920's Avatar
    Sound useful to me. Since I use the Runtastic app my 1020 has been getting sweattastic on a regular basis and I always worry that the camera module will give out because of this.
    04-04-2014 06:58 AM
  22. denzilla's Avatar
    I don't care, I just want it to have at least 32GB of memory and most importantly built-in Qi wireless charging. AT&T don't screw this up!!!
    I'm with ya, but since At&t is now part of the PMA consortium, don't hold your breath.

    As for Water/dust resistance, I don't think its too much to ask in 2014 to be able to whip out a phone in the rain and not be worried about the damn thing dying because of it!
    04-04-2014 05:32 PM
  23. ven07's Avatar
    You know to be honest I don't really notice a difference between phones that are dust resistant and those that are not.. Or maybe it's just a small difference lol
    04-04-2014 05:38 PM
  24. Zulfigar's Avatar
    Hey all,
    I love the Nokia lumia 930 but I think that this flagship needs something in order to compete with other flagships so it must pack some of the new features there. Water and dust Resistance is one of the most wanted and loved features , for me I was a bit disappointed that it doesn't has this thing , moreover a fingerprint scanner is missing - that's not a big deal for me, but it is for water and dust Resistance , which would be very beneficial.
    How about you ?? Does it really matter to have a flagship that is NOT water and dust resistant or this might make you think again before buying the lumia 930?!

    Posted via the WPC App for Android!
    Only dust resistance I care much about is that dust can't get front facing camera, like it can get into the 920's.
    04-04-2014 05:48 PM
  25. psychotron's Avatar
    I was thinking about this thread and honestly, how many manufacturers flagship handsets actually do include this feature? Very few that I can recall. Seems like more of a specialized thing than a widespread much desired feature. One of the problems with that kind of thing is that they always seem to have to make some kind of compromises in other aspects of the build to accommodate it.
    04-04-2014 06:06 PM
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