05-01-2014 05:13 PM
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  1. tipu2185's Avatar
    Nope, higher numbers are always better.
    Personally I don't agree with you. Higher numbers are never always better. Plus WP OS really does not need higher numbers. As far as higher numbers are concerned you might see lag / inconsistent performance in some high number spec android phones. I really depends on coding as well to optimize OS \ app to respond to that hardware. There is nothing wrong with 930's specs as far as screen, CPU and GPU are concerned. Though lack of screen memory is a big turn off. Limited storage is bit of concern as well though 32Gb is not that bad.

    In my opinion they need to revamp OS to new level (Email forwarding, attachments management, file manager and many small things that power users require). A lot of improvements are made but MS is not doing their best. Since they are late in race to capture cell phone market they need to make hardware which does not miss things like glance (If they wanted to optimize cost they could have added blinking LED to notify missed calls, msgs, emails). Better storage options should have been there as well. Since they are also trying to take blackberry's corporate market they needed to have a solid battery life time as well. Over nothing bad but small things do matter when you are starting from behind.
    04-06-2014 11:33 PM
  2. Weavers's Avatar
    Fact: Lumia could've released this phone 2 months earlier. What a travesty, the same release time frame as giants HTC and Samsung = no chance.
    maverick786us likes this.
    04-06-2014 11:39 PM
  3. Mars2003's Avatar
    Yeah, whilst this phone is still pretty much up there tech wise, it's still the 1520 internals in a 5" frame. In effect the criticism here is not the level of tech here (SD801 is only marginally better and SD805 is not available yet), it's that this phone should've been out alongside the 1520.
    camstreet1 likes this.
    04-12-2014 12:48 PM
  4. DaT Franchise's Avatar
    Oh no it doesn't have the 801!!!! The 801 isn't that much better then the 800, the 805 is a different story as its 64bit. The 1520,icon and 930 still sport the best CPU and gpu out, they benchmark better, have better battery life in relation to battery size in there respective competition and best of all you don't need to reboot the damn thing every day to keep the lag away because Google still hasn't learned how to properly set up the LMK and oom. Its not that MS didn't want to use the 805, LG Samsung and HTC wanted to as well but its simply another 6-8 months out. The fact is there's phones with the sd800 are well over powered and have no problems out running the few phones running the 801
    04-12-2014 12:59 PM
  5. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    My take on this is with Qualcomm making all the chips that runs most high end and mid range models, it could be a mix of Nokia finishing up its own individual projects before we see the next wave of innovation once MSFT is fully on board, and making sure the current projects are adequately supplied parts wise. Only Apple and Samsung are Status A OEMs, which means parts suppliers fill their orders with higher priority. HTC used to be, but lost that status last year officially, hence why the One M7 was delayed and why the M8's camera isn't better.

    If you take the idea that the 930 is an improved 920, not a full upgrade, I agree. For that, folks have to wait for the gestures related stuff to come through. As much as I enjoyed my 920 (my dad has it now) and my 925, I may get the 930 later in the year and retire my 8X and sell my 925.

    Nokia is still in the process of streamlining their market offerings. I won't be surprised if MSFT uses the Apple strategy of pushing the old flagships into the mid range and kill off lines like the 8xx and 7xxx series.

    So let's see how 8.1 runs on the older hardware first. If you've got the cash and itch for a 930, go for it. But the phone isn't outdated. Plus, I wouldn't be surprised is based on how the contracts were written, VZW offered the most upfront, allowing them to fill those orders before launching the 930 with a higher capacity for production after in a few months. The Chennai plant issue may prove to be a serious short term setback as well...
    04-12-2014 01:47 PM
  6. DaT Franchise's Avatar
    Well its all relative, the s4 to the s5 isn't a huge jump, the iPhone 4-4s-5-5s isn't a big jump and the m7-m8 isn't a big jump, there have only been a few phones that took a massive jump the optimus g to the g2 and the note 2 to the note 3. So if you look at it as its not much of an upgrade and wait for the next best thing you will always be waiting, mobile technology is slowing down its not what it was 2 to 3 years ago when you had huge leaps in tech, its more incremental now.
    04-12-2014 01:58 PM
  7. davesannie's Avatar
    Revolution is over, now it's time for evolution...so it will take a lot of time for another revolution. What I'm trying to say is that the performances between the high end phones are so small at this moment that we can not speak about 6 months behind.


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    04-12-2014 02:12 PM
  8. DaT Franchise's Avatar
    ^^^^^exactly
    04-12-2014 07:56 PM
  9. 89caps's Avatar
    930 really should have been released a year after the 920 and we wouldn't be having the discussion of it being behind the Android competition.
    04-13-2014 10:37 AM
  10. SpareBot's Avatar
    I agree with the topic 100 %. And that why I feel like a price tag around 499 is much more appropriate!
    04-16-2014 02:39 PM
  11. Doctor Pork's Avatar
    Revolution is over, now it's time for evolution...so it will take a lot of time for another revolution. What I'm trying to say is that the performances between the high end phones are so small at this moment that we can not speak about 6 months behind.


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    Bingo. The phone and tablet markets are approaching the maturity of the computer market where it is mostly insignificant what processor you got in your laptop for most use cases. If the Snapdragon 800 is powerful enough to run Windows RT fluidly, obviously further increases in power will be quite insignificant for a lighter phone OS.

    Sure, there are differences in the power of computer hardware, but in the cases you actually want to pay the price, both money and increased bulk, for getting systems with the highest performances, there are clear reasons for these niche applications. For most people, any low voltage Haskell i5 is plenty for everything but heavier gaming. It is not like people obsess over a slightly faster processor in one laptop compared to another, as that is clearly not the most important factor anymore. What is important is design, the keyboard, the screen etc. Clearly the phone market is almost there today.

    Besides, if minor differences in high end SoCs are so important, how come that Apple can still sell plenty of the iPhone 4S and IPhone 5C which clearly are slower, and still charge flagship money for it?
    04-21-2014 08:37 AM
  12. radmanvr's Avatar
    I'm honestly shocked that Microsoft didn't unveil a Surface Phone at BUILD with specs that surpass the iPhone 5S. That's what Windows Phone needs right NOW.

    and here I thought it was going to be called the Surface Bing Box X One Cortana Windows Phone
    04-21-2014 08:52 AM
  13. Chris_Kez's Avatar
    I love the armchair punditry. Guys, think very carefully about the engineering resources, supply chain and manufacturing footprint of Nokia vs. Apple and Samsung. Think about the markets where Nokia is finally growing sales, and the devices that are selling well. Think about the timeline for WP8.1, and again who Nokia is competing against how they need to approach each battle. Seriously, you think it's all about the "cutting edge flagship". That is only one small piece of the puzzle. If you want to say you're disappointed because they haven't made the device YOU want, that's fine. But don't pass try to pass that off "what Nokia should do".
    04-21-2014 09:07 AM
  14. T Moore's Avatar
    Do you know the exclusivity deal with Verizon? Even though the 930 will not be released to the US is there something in that deal that prevents the 930 from being released to the rest of the world?
    04-21-2014 09:53 AM
  15. Chris_Kez's Avatar
    Do you know the exclusivity deal with Verizon? Even though the 930 will not be released to the US is there something in that deal that prevents the 930 from being released to the rest of the world?
    I would assume so.
    04-21-2014 05:35 PM
  16. jfa1's Avatar
    agreed! nokia's engineers need to figure out a way to make thin and light phones. the 920 is def way too heavy. betcha the grand majority of 920 owners agree with u. nokia might b using design and bright colors to compensate for its inability to produce thin and light phones. hopefully nokia proves me wrong one day.
    with all due respect you and camstreet1 are entitled to your opinions. You should not presume to speak for anyone nut yourself. I have had a 920 for quite some time and I do not find it to be even too heavy much less way too heavy. I don't see that many people here in these forums complaining about the weight of the 920. I might add that I don't think that the 1520 is way too big either. That said I am trying to wait on the 930 if it comes to ATT if I decide to get a 1520 or any other wp with 8.1..
    05-01-2014 05:13 PM
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