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  1. Nijaz Turdaliev's Avatar
    07-17-2014 01:46 AM
  2. cjono's Avatar
    Do you guys have any tips with taking good photos with the 930??

    So far i am underwhelmed big time!

    they are mostly grainy, out of focus or not as amazing as i thought considering it has a 20mp sensor.

    What am i doing wrong?

    Eg when shooting low-light or even fast moving object (cat as an example)
    07-17-2014 03:07 AM
  3. Tafsern's Avatar
    Do you guys have any tips with taking good photos with the 930??

    So far i am underwhelmed big time!

    they are mostly grainy, out of focus or not as amazing as i thought considering it has a 20mp sensor.

    What am i doing wrong?

    Eg when shooting low-light or even fast moving object (cat as an example)
    Keep it steady! That's important with any camera.

    Remember that daylight is the easiest to photograph in. Low-light almost needs a tripod, but if you keep it really steady you'll get some great photos.
    If you're talking about a moving cat in low-light, that's tricky for every phone, especially without flash.

    The photos I take looks great, and far better than my 920. I don't take so much low-light photos, but when I do they always have some grain compared to daylight photos, but that's normal. You can try your own setting within Nokia Camera, that's a great way to start doing manual photos.

    Post some of your photos and let us see..it's easier to see what you are talking about.
    07-17-2014 03:51 AM
  4. cjono's Avatar
    Thanks for the feedback.

    Here is an example of a photo I took

    https://kxgpnw.bn1.livefilestore.com...201.jpg?psid=1
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    07-17-2014 04:06 AM
  5. Tafsern's Avatar
    Thanks for the feedback.

    Here is an example of a photo I took

    https://kxgpnw.bn1.livefilestore.com...201.jpg?psid=1
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    Is it low-light? It looks like you didn't focus on the cat, am I right? Do you use Nokia Camera or the built in one from Microsoft?
    07-17-2014 05:05 AM
  6. cjono's Avatar
    Is it low-light? It looks like you didn't focus on the cat, am I right? Do you use Nokia Camera or the built in one from Microsoft?

    It's indoors and using the Nokia camera app. I believed I had focused on it but maybe not... Kinda confusing using the app
    07-17-2014 05:17 AM
  7. Tafsern's Avatar
    It's indoors and using the Nokia camera app. I believed I had focused on it but maybe not... Kinda confusing using the app
    You might be a little bit to close and missed the focus. You can either "tap to focus" or halfpress the camerabutton, make it focus and then press it down to take the photo. The phone itself will measure the light where you "tap to focus".

    I just took this one on my office desk right now, automatic settings and I used the button to focus.

    http://s3.postimg.org/b9am3gcsj/123.jpg
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    07-17-2014 05:53 AM
  8. Bahamen's Avatar
    It's indoors and using the Nokia camera app. I believed I had focused on it but maybe not... Kinda confusing using the app
    Checking the EXIF, the image was taken at shutter speed of 1/16s and ISO 800. This suggests that the lighting condition is not very good, particularly since the light source is behind the cat (meaning the cat is in a shadow). High ISO (I'd consider more than 200 to be high...) means that your image will have more noise. And the relatively slow shutter speed means that hand shake, or movements by the subject, could result in motion blur. You may get better result by using flash - the camera can use lower ISO and faster shutter.

    Focusing in lowlight can also be quite tricky - if possible, avoid focusing on low-contrast areas (e.g. the black fur) but maybe go for the eyes or whiskers. This kind of shot is not very straightforward, and would have been difficult for any other cameraphones.
    07-17-2014 07:25 AM
  9. Tafsern's Avatar
    You can also set the focus lamp to ON to help the phone focus in darker environments.
    07-17-2014 07:52 AM
  10. cjono's Avatar
    Thanks guys, will keep these tips for when i take more photos!
    07-17-2014 08:05 AM
  11. Kissanviikset's Avatar
    There is severe back lighting and focus is not on cat. Lighting conditions like that you just need to use flash or photos end up bleached looking like in your sample.

    Indoor situations it is always good idea to use flash and focus light. Try again and post your photo
    07-17-2014 11:02 AM
  12. KPAkiller's Avatar
    Doesn't the magnet to hold it on, damage the phone in any way?

    It's OSINO Detachable Lens for Mobile Phones & Digital Camera. Wide +Macro Lens. There are plenty of lenses, just search the internet. :)
    07-17-2014 05:17 PM
  13. Chris Wayne2's Avatar
    Do you guys have any tips with taking good photos with the 930??

    So far i am underwhelmed big time!

    they are mostly grainy, out of focus or not as amazing as i thought considering it has a 20mp sensor.

    What am i doing wrong?

    Eg when shooting low-light or even fast moving object (cat as an example)
    Consider this:

    HIGH ISO: high (but artificial) light sensitivity, most photographers wouldn't go higher than 1600 (so keep it below ISO 800)
    LOW ISO: low light sensitivity. It will always be better to have a low ISO, high ISO are needed only on when you need to capture a fast moment under poor lighting conditions ( like in a party ).

    FAST SHUTTER SPEED: Use a fast shutter speed when you're on optimal light conditions (direct sunlight), this in addition to a low ISO will give you grain-free pictures.

    SLOW SHUTTER SPEED: This setting goes from every preset from 1/100 (in my personal opinion) seconds to the max of 4 seconds and it is used often when you are under not ideal lighting conditions, OIS of the 930 helps in this one but it won't make miracles is you select speeds of 1/15 of a second or slower but since the 930 is flat on one side (unlike the 920) you can rest the phone on a table and then take the picture. If you are into very dark photography you should consider a tripod since it will make possible 1 to 4 seconds pictures possible (I hope Microsoft can increase this in the future).

    IMPORTANT: Most of the time it is better to play with shutter speed instead of the ISO (unless you need an action shot) because the ISO can ruin the photos. Remember that, the faster the sensor closes to take a picture, the less light it captures.

    WHITE BALANCE: Learn the meaning of each icon here, most of the time this works well but the 1020 gained a fame of automatically selecting the wrong white balance. This affects the colors of your photos BIG TIME.

    MANUAL FOCUS: Learn how to use this as well since auto does not always work as you wanted.

    Last but not least, DON'T USE THE FLASH! unless strictly necessary, this will give a very artificial look to your photos.

    OH and capture on RAW!, easily correct colors and stuff using photoshop or GIMP!
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    07-18-2014 12:10 AM
  14. Chris Wayne2's Avatar
    You sir, live in a beautiful place.
    07-18-2014 12:28 AM
  15. Nijaz Turdaliev's Avatar
    You sir, live in a beautiful place.
    Thank you very much!
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    07-18-2014 02:12 AM
  16. cjono's Avatar
    Still not impressed with the camera.. Here is another example indoors with natural light

    http://1drv.ms/1jZvpA3
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    07-18-2014 09:10 PM
  17. cjono's Avatar
    Can someone tell me what settings I should use in that scenario.. It's not as sharp to me
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    07-18-2014 09:11 PM
  18. DJCBS's Avatar
    Can someone tell me what settings I should use in that scenario.. It's not as sharp to me
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    Perhaps you shouldn't be shooting in RAW then. Shooting in RAW requires you to know what you're doing and the photo needs to be processed on a PC after.
    Try shooting in jpeg and use the auto-mode. No one can tell you what the manual settings should be since it would require the person to be next to you to see the ambience you're shooting in, etc.
    07-18-2014 10:16 PM
  19. cjono's Avatar
    I'll give that a go thanks.. Thought I was meant to shoot in raw
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    07-18-2014 10:55 PM
  20. Kissanviikset's Avatar
    Still not impressed with the camera.. Here is another example indoors with natural light

    http://1drv.ms/1jZvpA3
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    Focus is too much behind cats face, more like in left ear level and forward. Which focus method you used? Camera button, tapping to screen? Photo is most definitely miss focused.

    It is also ISO 200 1/25s shot which indigates light level isn't very good. You can also manually overdrive ISO 100 value for more details. Just make sure to hold camera still since shot time is going to be somewhere 1/10s levels. And use manual focus to get focus just a way you want it. On such near macro shot distances there is big probability, that camera miss focuses. Therefore i advice you to use manual focus for sharpest possible result, since subjects seems to enjoy just chilling
    07-19-2014 09:46 AM
  21. KPAkiller's Avatar
    I'm having trouble getting clear shots in areas with cloud in my garden. Once I've taken the photo I go to view it. I then zoomed in thinking it'll be clear but it's not. 100 iso. 1/250 shutter. WB cloudy.
    07-19-2014 10:28 AM
  22. Nijaz Turdaliev's Avatar
    Nokia storyteller is a quite interesting app.
    07-19-2014 11:12 AM
  23. Squachy's Avatar
    Is it fair to say that as a 'just point and click' camera with default settings the results are kind of underwhelming (compared to ios or some androids) but when you get into the camera and tweak settings for either specific situations or tweak the settings to get what you want out of 'point and click' scenarios you can get some amazing pictures?
    07-19-2014 11:16 AM
  24. KPAkiller's Avatar
    Is it fair to say that as a 'just point and click' camera with default settings the results are kind of underwhelming (compared to ios or some androids) but when you get into the camera and tweak settings for either specific situations or tweak the settings to get what you want out of 'point and click' scenarios you can get some amazing pictures?
    I'm finding this to be true. I can setup a point and click custom setting for indoor and outdoor using pro shot app or manually set it up on Nokia camera.

    As I'm getting better at understanding the camera settings like ISO or shutter speed, I'm getting better pictures all the time.
    Last edited by KPAkiller; 07-19-2014 at 12:30 PM.
    07-19-2014 12:14 PM
  25. Bahamen's Avatar
    Still not impressed with the camera.. Here is another example indoors with natural light

    http://1drv.ms/1jZvpA3
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    At such a close distance, perhaps the single most important factor is the focus. My suggestion is to manually tap the screen on where the cat's eyes are (well, you may want to choose the left eye which looks bigger). If the focus is on the ear or pillow, then it is very likely that the nose or the eye would be out-of-focus (i.e. less sharp). You will have the same problem even if you used a DSLR.
    07-19-2014 12:30 PM
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