View Poll Results: So which one ?

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  • Nokia Lumia 930

    51 83.61%
  • Nokia Lumia 1020

    10 16.39%
07-17-2014 10:40 PM
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  1. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    If I would choose between 1020 and 930 - I'd say 930, because of newer hardware.Otherwise, I'd choose 1520 because of bigger screen ;)
    06-14-2014 05:10 AM
  2. psudotechzealot's Avatar
    Neither, get the L1520.
    06-14-2014 05:49 AM
  3. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    Oh, I forgot there is a green option for the L930. I might reconsider my choice...
    06-14-2014 06:12 AM
  4. hidayat225's Avatar
    Simple,
    Lumia 1020 = Camera
    Lumia 930 = Just like any other flagship

    Actually, people really don't really need to look at specs to buy a phone. It's a phone. A phone. Even the new quad core chip has no real advantage compared to the S4. The 930 just feels like any other flagship phone. I would wait for the new 3D touch phone to see what it's all about.
    Miska Hietala likes this.
    06-14-2014 06:29 AM
  5. Viviana Biazzo's Avatar
    As good as 1020's 41MP is, I personally feel you can't really replace a real camera with a phone. So definitely get the 930 as your phone, and get a mirrorless compact as a light DSLR replacement instead.
    930 + mirrorless = too damn expensive.
    930 will be enough for use not so demanding.
    06-14-2014 11:02 AM
  6. poststamp's Avatar
    The 930 is much more future proof. Keep in mind that the L800 never got wp8, who will say that the 1020 will get wp9? It's much more likely an upgrade for the 930. You say you want your phone to last a few years, in that case it's always wise to choose the latest version.
    06-14-2014 02:47 PM
  7. Deutscher2's Avatar
    As good as 1020's 41MP is, I personally feel you can't really replace a real camera with a phone. So definitely get the 930 as your phone, and get a mirrorless compact as a light DSLR replacement instead.
    The 1020 is a "real" camera with better specs than most "normal" "real" cameras.
    06-15-2014 07:37 AM
  8. th0mas96's Avatar
    sorry, but no. It still has no optical zoom and a lot of noise due to the small sensor. And yes, they call it "lossless zoom" but in the end, it's just normal digital zoom. Not that the images are bad, they are really good for a phone. But it's still a phone, and you can't expect it to compete with real cameras. And since he's a photographer and normally uses a DSLR, he will know that the megapixels are of no use when the sensor is still pretty small.

    To OP: I don't think the differences in the phones in terms of photos are that big. They both have a lot of noise compared to a real camera and that's about it. With perfect light, the pictures are really good, with both phones. If I were you, I'd visit the photo threads in the 1020 forum and for the 930 the Icon and 1520 forums, they both have the same cameras.
    Viviana Biazzo likes this.
    06-15-2014 11:52 AM
  9. Miska Hietala's Avatar
    Here in Finland you can buy two 1020 with the price of one 930. That plus the good enough HW 1020 has made it winner for me. And of course the camera.. Just gotta love the results it gives. I came from Android world where specs really mattered. I'm relieved that WP doesn't need spec wars. As said before - it is a phone. And to me best possible camera attached to a phone is a winner.
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    06-15-2014 01:16 PM
  10. Deutscher2's Avatar
    sorry, but no. It still has no optical zoom and a lot of noise due to the small sensor. And yes, they call it "lossless zoom" but in the end, it's just normal digital zoom. Not that the images are bad, they are really good for a phone. But it's still a phone, and you can't expect it to compete with real cameras. And since he's a photographer and normally uses a DSLR, he will know that the megapixels are of no use when the sensor is still pretty small.
    The 1020 has a small sensor? It has a 1/1.5 sensor. A normal Digi-Cam has a way smaller sensor like 1/2,3.
    You don't have much knowledge about Photography, or? Bigger Sensor-Number means smaller Sensor.

    And the 1020 has no "normal digital zoom". Do you know, what a "normal digital zoom" in a Camera means?
    Please get some Information about Photography and Cameras before talking about it.
    buxz777 likes this.
    06-21-2014 08:53 AM
  11. Beijendorf's Avatar
    I cannot say this enough;

    Go to a store and check them out. The "buldge" on the 1020 is really minimal once you see it on anything else than pictures on the internet.

    Also, try out the camera in the store and get the general feel of the phones down. Either you fall in love with both, one or neither of them.
    06-21-2014 09:01 AM
  12. WDavis4692's Avatar
    The 930 in green or orange is just gorgeous. That reason alone is a selling point to a looks-oriented person like me! It's got a bigger screen than the 1020 (slightly but you decide if this is a good thing), it's 1080p rather than 768p, the processor is faster and more efficient (SD 800), the battery is bigger - and combined with the more efficient processor the battery life will far surpass the 1020.

    Honestly, as long as you have a dedicated SLD, DSLR or compact camera to do most of your shooting, I see no reason (aside from price) to get the 1020 instead.

    Get the international version, which is out soon, and pop a SIM from any network in. Don't get locked into any one network. Sure, you won't have 4G (as the int'l version uses different LTE frequencies) but you'll be able to use a traveller sim when abroad which nets you the best rates, and besides 4G eats battery a lot more quickly than 3G and to be honest 3G is perfectly fast enough for streaming videos on the train, etc. I just don't see it as being worth it yet.
    06-21-2014 09:25 AM
  13. th0mas96's Avatar
    Yes, and set that sensor size in relation to the pixels on it, the density is still pretty high. And I'm not talking about DigiCams, he's a photographer ^^

    here's a nice illustration of what I mean when I say it only has digital zoom: Putting Nokia's zoom claims to the test: Lumia 1020 smartphone versus Canon PowerShot S120: Connect it makes a picture and you can then zoom in, and that's it. If this is how non-digital zoom is defined, even my scanner and my webcam feature awesome and non-digital zoom, I just scan/make a picture and then crop a part out.

    Don't get me wrong, the 1020 is a great phone and it does have a really impressive camera, but digital zoom is inferior. Period.
    06-21-2014 10:07 AM
  14. Miska Hietala's Avatar
    What I have heard both phones lasts a day of usage. If you have dedicated dslr or such, then the 930 could be better. I didn't have any camera when thought which one to buy, so it was simple choice to go after the 1020 😊
    Sent from my NeverAndroidAgain**1020** via Tapatalk
    07-16-2014 12:13 AM
  15. Coreldan's Avatar
    I was battling the same dilemma myself, but I decided to go with the 930.

    930 does have double tap to wake, though, but you are right that Glance isn't there. I never used Glance on my 920 cos I thought it would be stupid on an LCD screen. Now I'd get an AMOLED scree on the 930 but no Glance, but since I never got used to it, I don't really lose much. I did miss a similar feature when moving from N8 to 920 though, as I don't wear a watch.

    However the 930 was priced "so low" that 400€ vs. 500€ (I have a 50€ voucher available), it didn't feel smart to go from 920 to 1020. I'd like the awesome camera, but 920 gets me good enough pics. More than the actual camera sensor I'd probably miss the Xenon-flash that trumps dual-LED all day every day for photography. My fiancee just ordered a 1020 online so I'll still have a chance to change my mind I guess (still didnt buy 930 myself), but 930 seems like a smarter option to me. Good camera to me on a phone is really important to me, but the 920 is already good enough. 930 camera should be a decent chunk better but I really don't necessarily need the 1020-level camera, although I wouldn't mind that either if it was otherwise a lucrative option to upgrade to. Perhaps if it had wireless charging built in it would be more attractive to me, but the price difference to me is so small that it feels stupid to buy the more outdated option.

    The camera bump on N8 never bothered me at all, I doubt I would mind the camera bump in 1020 either.

    Here in Finland you can buy two 1020 with the price of one 930. That plus the good enough HW 1020 has made it winner for me. And of course the camera.. Just gotta love the results it gives. I came from Android world where specs really mattered. I'm relieved that WP doesn't need spec wars. As said before - it is a phone. And to me best possible camera attached to a phone is a winner.
    The 1020 was just lowered to the price of 400€ not that long ago here in finland. No idea where you are finding 1020's for 275€ :P At least my fiancee wouldve loved to know that before she paid 350€ for hers (she also had a 50€ voucher to this tech store, but normal price was 400€)
    07-16-2014 02:12 AM
  16. Kirill Petrovsky's Avatar
    I just sold my 1020 and got 930. And I just LOVE IT.
    Yes, camera is worse. But hey, 1020 has the best camera ever, and 930 is still very good, just not amazingly good.
    But 930 is much faster, much better to hold, extra 0.5" of screen space are very significant. And it's futureproof.
    So yes, 930 is a better choice. My colleague also got 930 instead of her trusty 800 - you can't imagine, how happy she is!
    07-16-2014 09:33 AM
  17. Miska Hietala's Avatar
    Ok I admit that was *bit* misleading but close enough 😉
    Sent from my NeverAndroidAgain**1020** via Tapatalk
    07-17-2014 02:14 AM
  18. buxz777's Avatar
    sorry, but no. It still has no optical zoom and a lot of noise due to the small sensor. And yes, they call it "lossless zoom" but in the end, it's just normal digital zoom. Not that the images are bad, they are really good for a phone. But it's still a phone, and you can't expect it to compete with real cameras. And since he's a photographer and normally uses a DSLR, he will know that the megapixels are of no use when the sensor is still pretty small.

    To OP: I don't think the differences in the phones in terms of photos are that big. They both have a lot of noise compared to a real camera and that's about it. With perfect light, the pictures are really good, with both phones. If I were you, I'd visit the photo threads in the 1020 forum and for the 930 the Icon and 1520 forums, they both have the same cameras.
    the 1020 has the same sensor size as the Panasonic t7 which is a highly regarded camera and used to cost over 300 and now sits at about 270 , the 1020 with its zoom also offers an aperture of 2.0 all the way through its zoom where as with some digital camera rx100 for example the aperture rises to things like 2.8 with just 2-3x zoom

    the noise levels in the 1020 are great , I suggest visiting flickr and even the 1020 forum on this site to check out some of the work people are doing with this device , I have sold prints and people are asking me what camera I am using , it is that good and I don't know where you are getting these high noise claims from?

    so people can say that the 1020 doesn't compete with high end point and shoot cameras but high end point and shoot prime type cameras come with no more then 3x zoom and they usually loose their great aperture when using the zoom , they also don't offer oversampling out of the box and need software to perform this , anyone who has used the nokia 1020 will tell you it can replace a high end point and shoot camera because it is one ;-)

    the reason for such a high mega pixel count is to make the pixels as pure as they can be by using a very very clever oversampling method and combining 7/8 pixels from the 41mp images into one very clean pure pixel hence the name pureview , it also offers the user the chance to zoom into the 41mp image without using moving parts or facing things like loss of aperture here is the whitepaper and its worth a read ;-)

    http://i.nokia.com/blob/view/-/84956.../Download1.pdf

    I bought a 1520 and am now selling it as after the 808 and then 1020 camera the 1520 camera is good but it doesn't offer the pureness and iq of the aforementioned phones and it looks like I will have to wait for the 1020 successor if there is one ;-)

    if camera is important the 1020 is the one to grab the sensor and xenon flash offer a very very capable diverse camera (like carrying a high end point and shoot)
    Last edited by buxz777; 07-17-2014 at 10:59 PM.
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