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  1. thatuxguy's Avatar
    I believe there are solutions for the problems you are facing.

    First of all if your comparing the Lumia 930's camera to that of iPhone 5S's camera, opt for 4:3 to get 19 Megapixel images. iPhone also uses 4:3.

    Furthermore if you want to upload high resolution images to OneDrive, you have to switch to the 5 + 19 MP JPEG.

    Then you must go to settings > applications > photos+camera > Auto-Upload > OneDrive.

    After your there enable Auto upload and set image quality to high(as I've done in the below photo).

    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/12/vehezese.png

    There is another way if you want to completely remove the 5 MP JPEGs. Download an app called 1shot by Invoke IT Limited, it allows you take one uncompressed 19 Megapixel image that you are free to edit or share, the 1shot app also has continuous focus so it will snap photos much faster.

    If you still have any issues, please do not hesitate to ask me for help regarding any issues you face.
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    Switched to 4:3 still only 5mp using the ms camera and Nokia camera. Its really weird just wanna produce some good pics lol. I'll connect to my laptop shortly and see what I can see.
    07-11-2014 02:41 PM
  2. KPAkiller's Avatar
    i've followed what he said.

    If you have the app "files" by microsoft. Go to pictures and camera roll. It shows both the 5mp and hi-res 16/19mp images as separate files. I've also changed it so the 19mp photos upload to onedrive.

    I would also advise to check out the settings while using nokia camera where you click the 3 dots, then look at tutorials, theyre very informative on how to get the best photos under different circumstances. The results are awesome.
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    07-11-2014 04:48 PM
  3. taymur's Avatar
    I'd suggest you set it to 5MP + 16MP DNG, and then get yourself lightroom, photoshop or even something free. Just importing them and letting Lightroom set the white balance improves the picture so extremely.. it's really awesome what the camera can da, but it misses the white balance quite a few times..
    This is cool, but don't you think its an too much.

    Showing off my phone to an iPhone owner. Oh man you have to wait and see how my photos look when I get back home, connect my phone to the pc, fix them and send them to you. You will be amazed.

    I would do it lol, but I'm sure a lot or people wont, and will think that the camera is bad. Just my opinion
    07-11-2014 07:45 PM
  4. taymur's Avatar
    Btw, don't think there is a 20mp image any where one the phone, its a 16mp sensor, then the phone generates a 5mp picture from that.

    Bastards they are, they combined them both and even got a wrong number while summation to reach 20mp.

    Honestly I'm thinking of buying one and going to Nokia care to tell them I'm not getting 20mp photos as stated on my phone, report it faulty. I hate them.
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    07-11-2014 07:55 PM
  5. Robinsonmac's Avatar
    Btw, don't think there is a 20mp image any where one the phone, its a 16mp sensor, then the phone generates a 5mp picture from that.

    Bastards they are, they combined them both and even got a wrong number while summation to reach 20mp.

    Honestly I'm thinking of buying one and going to Nokia care to tell them I'm not getting 20mp photos as stated on my phone, report it faulty. I hate them.
    Wrong its a 20 MP camera, the 5 MP photo is a high quality oversampled images from the 20 MP image. It's a 4:1 ratio and produces very good photos. You should read the Pureview white paper from Nokia. My Icon photos are generally better than both my wife's & daughters 5S photos. Their cameras are really fast though.
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    07-11-2014 08:17 PM
  6. Robinsonmac's Avatar
    This is taken from the 1020 white paper "The 41-megapixel sensor on the Lumia 1020 will give you a 5 megapixel image when you shoot using the stock or Nokia camera app. However, the 5 megapixels you get arent generated using only that many pixels. Nokia utilizes an oversampling method which allows every pixel to collect data from seven pixels around it, to generate the output of that one particular pixel. What that means is each pixel from the Lumia 1020 is delivering detail and clarity that you would normally get from a photosite comprised of 7 pixels. The image is captured using every single pixel on the sensor (effectively 41.3MP in 4:3 and 33.8MP in 16:9), and the pixels are extrapolated into a 5 megapixel image to yield detail like youve never seen before."
    Last edited by Robinsonmac; 07-11-2014 at 09:13 PM.
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    07-11-2014 08:29 PM
  7. salmanahmad's Avatar
    Switched to 4:3 still only 5mp using the ms camera and Nokia camera. Its really weird just wanna produce some good pics lol. I'll connect to my laptop shortly and see what I can see.

    Are you using Stock camera or Nokia Camera? You should try Nokia Camera BETA, maybe.
    07-11-2014 09:01 PM
  8. Dietrich Cleijne's Avatar
    My L1520 makes amazing pictures. Even the compressed jpg's look stunningly beautiful on my HD tv and when i show them to friends and family they can't believe it came out of a smartphone.
    Now, that is the compressed picture.
    Next to that picture the camera also makes an uncompressed file with the same name but with the extension DNG which you cannot see or open in the Phone.
    It requires Lightroom or another program that can handle DNG (raw) files. Open them and you wil be amazed of what you can do with them everything is adjustable without any loss of quality.
    Of course you would only do this with pictures you are very happy with, for the others the jpg would suffice and you can throw the DNG's away.
    Why they do it this way?
    Bandwith is the key, suppose i go on holiday and take 250 pictures and a few video's and upload them automatically, with 250 of each 20mb pictures that would be extreme.
    07-12-2014 02:44 AM
  9. th0mas96's Avatar
    Okay, for clarification: imagecrops-circle.png Here you go, the sensor does have 20,7 MP, but for a rectangular picture, some of them need to be "sacrificed". Every camera is labelled with the absolute count of pixels.
    And another thing, there's basically no phone that can nearly measure the light to set the white balance, it's always computed afterwards. The problem is, Apple is by far the best in that category, while Nokia still struggles. The pictures are not bad, but with missed white balance, they don't look nearly as good as they could be. For me, it's not too bad, I don't really have a problem with letting my PC auto correct them.
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    07-12-2014 04:04 AM
  10. thatuxguy's Avatar
    Are you using Stock camera or Nokia Camera? You should try Nokia Camera BETA, maybe.
    I've used the stock camera app, which has hardly any settings. And the Nokia camera app. I cant seem to find the Beta version.
    07-12-2014 04:14 AM
  11. Jan Tomsic's Avatar
    Shame it does not use the full advertised 20.7MP camera! Wonder why they chose to do it like this as they are pushing the fact it has the 20MP shooter... kinda false advertising if it does not take full advantage of the full resolution.
    Change aspect ratio to 4:3 instead of 16:9 and it will use more pixels.
    07-12-2014 04:34 AM
  12. thatuxguy's Avatar
    Change aspect ratio to 4:3 instead of 16:9 and it will use more pixels.
    I have and I also found the Nokia camera beta app. Still not too impressed, starting to think my iphone produces better images.

    But the can look blurry when on a pc. I need to look at my Lumia 930 shots on my laptop.
    07-12-2014 04:56 AM
  13. cjono's Avatar
    I have and I also found the Nokia camera beta app. Still not too impressed, starting to think my iphone produces better images.

    But the can look blurry when on a pc. I need to look at my Lumia 930 shots on my laptop.

    thats incredibly disapointing. Im looking at moving over from the 5s, but this the ability to not upload at full resolution without needing a PC is misguided.
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    07-12-2014 05:24 AM
  14. wjlim3's Avatar
    I am now officially confused. I might just try it out when I am at the mall next.

    So, can you or can't you, snap a full resolution picture, and upload it directly to onedrive? I am getting really confused.
    And, can you or can't you, access that full resolution picture on the phone's default photo gallery?
    And, if you plug in the phone to the computer, will you be able to open the full resolution photos without additional software required apart from Microsoft's default picture viewer?
    07-12-2014 05:46 AM
  15. cjono's Avatar
    I am now officially confused. I might just try it out when I am at the mall next.

    So, can you or can't you, snap a full resolution picture, and upload it directly to onedrive? I am getting really confused.
    And, can you or can't you, access that full resolution picture on the phone's default photo gallery?
    And, if you plug in the phone to the computer, will you be able to open the full resolution photos without additional software required apart from Microsoft's default picture viewer?

    Your confused? imagine a regular customer deciding between WP and Android/iOS

    What a stupid thing MSFT has done
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    07-12-2014 06:39 AM
  16. thatuxguy's Avatar
    Ok so we have a lovely day today, I have taken a few pics and they do actually look awesome.

    Setting to 4:3 and using Nokia cam beta. And the stock app.

    I'll get then onto my laptop later and see what they are like.

    Maybe its the low light images that are an issue. iPhone is a pretty good all round camera, but the Nokia ones do seem more advanced with more control.
    07-12-2014 06:51 AM
  17. taymur's Avatar
    Your confused? imagine a regular customer deciding between WP and Android/iOS

    What a stupid thing MSFT has done
    Yeah ots a very very stupid move. Mu friend who loves to take pictures. Was very interested in a 1020. When he got to play with one, he told me the images are blury and pixelate when you zoom in, he even told me that his note 2 takes better photos.

    Of course thats a problem of many causes. 1 device at display are not usually up-to-date.
    Add to that the confusion going around in this thread. It lead to him passing on the 1020 and waiting for something else. He might be getting a g3 now.

    Thats just sad msft and Nokia.
    07-12-2014 08:09 AM
  18. taymur's Avatar
    They could have solved this by easily giving a small indicator on the screen on whether you are looking at the 5mp camera or the 16mp one. Maybe at the top right corner.
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    07-12-2014 08:10 AM
  19. salmanahmad's Avatar
    I have just one last suggestion for high resolution images, it involves cutting 5 Megapixel images completely out of the picture.



    Download the app 1shot by Invoke IT Limited, it is a pretty amazing app that allows you to see how many Megapixels an image is being taken at, if you zoom in it will show you how many megapixels you are sacrificing.

    It only takes one photo on your desired Megapixels. It also supports continuous focus(enable it from settings).

    If you face any issues with the app you can tweet the creator @ hermitdave
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    07-12-2014 09:13 AM
  20. Matthias Verboven's Avatar
    I am now officially confused. I might just try it out when I am at the mall next.

    So, can you or can't you, snap a full resolution picture, and upload it directly to onedrive? I am getting really confused.
    And, can you or can't you, access that full resolution picture on the phone's default photo gallery?
    And, if you plug in the phone to the computer, will you be able to open the full resolution photos without additional software required apart from Microsoft's default picture viewer?
    If you go to the OneDrive website you can see the full resolution image. You can't see the full res image on the OneDrive app or in the photo app.
    07-12-2014 09:31 AM
  21. thatuxguy's Avatar
    I just sent one of the pics I took to my other half's iPhone. Now I can see the difference between the 2 devices. Even she was impressed.

    So I think I need to play more with the settings.

    Thanks all for your help and suggestions :) keep them coming
    07-12-2014 09:54 AM
  22. salmanahmad's Avatar
    I just sent one of the pics I took to my other half's iPhone. Now I can see the difference between the 2 devices. Even she was impressed.

    So I think I need to play more with the settings.

    Thanks all for your help and suggestions :) keep them coming

    Does Nokia Camera have continuous focus, like the iPhone 5S?
    07-12-2014 10:38 AM
  23. mickydale's Avatar
    Does anybody take the damn time to read the manual anymore???? We live in an age of instant gratification... Take it out , don't read any manuals or tutorials... And then complain when we don't get it or accuse the company of false advertisement. People ,please read your paperwork, its really that simple!

    If you want to view a High Res image on the phone....First it has to be taken with Nokia camera not MSFT....while viewing it in the camera roll (this is the 5mp version)...Click the "open in Nokia Camera " at the bottom of the photo....This takes you to the High Res photo... This allows you to recrop and zoom in to create another 5mp photo !!! This is done because it is a hell of alot easier to share the 5mp, social media will not except the High Res or Raw files! You can still access them via PC for additional editing , saving ,etc

    OneDrive does save HighRes images!!!

    And on a personal note , if you think Nokia Pureview camera tech is superseded by Iphones, Galxys, or Notes.... You are obviously blind! or flat out DO NOT KNOW HOW TO USE THE CAMERA
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    07-12-2014 02:03 PM
  24. thatuxguy's Avatar
    Does anybody take the damn time to read the manual anymore???? We live in an age of instant gratification... Take it out , don't read any manuals or tutorials... And then complain when we don't get it or accuse the company of false advertisement. People ,please read your paperwork, its really that simple!

    If you want to view a High Res image on the phone....First it has to be taken with Nokia camera not MSFT....while viewing it in the camera roll (this is the 5mp version)...Click the "open in Nokia Camera " at the bottom of the photo....This takes you to the High Res photo... This allows you to recrop and zoom in to create another 5mp photo !!! This is done because it is a hell of alot easier to share the 5mp, social media will not except the High Res or Raw files! You can still access them via PC for additional editing , saving ,etc

    OneDrive does save HighRes images!!!

    And on a personal note , if you think Nokia Pureview camera tech is superseded by Iphones, Galxys, or Notes.... You are obviously blind! or flat out DO NOT KNOW HOW TO USE THE CAMERA
    You got a manual? Can I have a copy as its not even online yet or included in the box!!

    I have my Nikon DSLR, and I was using an iPhone. But have moved to windows phone, mainly due to the apparent awesome camera. While most of your points make sense you need to realise the average user would not understand or care.

    An average consumer would wonder if an iPhone, Samsung, Sony, HTC can do it one way why is the Nokia different. It would put many people off!

    As per my previous post, it was not until my missus sent me a pic of our son I saw the massive difference. To confirm I sent her pics of some flowers and the difference was impressive! And that's just the 5mp image!

    On a side note, your post was quite insulting considering this is a forum and the info shared thus far in this thread was informative, your post not only repeated what others said but was done so in an insulting way. Forums are meant for seeking help, advise and support. I think its wrong for you to go on the attack as you did.
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    07-12-2014 02:19 PM
  25. Matthias Verboven's Avatar
    Does anybody take the damn time to read the manual anymore???? We live in an age of instant gratification... Take it out , don't read any manuals or tutorials... And then complain when we don't get it or accuse the company of false advertisement. People ,please read your paperwork, its really that simple!

    If you want to view a High Res image on the phone....First it has to be taken with Nokia camera not MSFT....while viewing it in the camera roll (this is the 5mp version)...Click the "open in Nokia Camera " at the bottom of the photo....This takes you to the High Res photo... This allows you to recrop and zoom in to create another 5mp photo !!! This is done because it is a hell of alot easier to share the 5mp, social media will not except the High Res or Raw files! You can still access them via PC for additional editing , saving ,etc

    OneDrive does save HighRes images!!!

    And on a personal note , if you think Nokia Pureview camera tech is superseded by Iphones, Galxys, or Notes.... You are obviously blind! or flat out DO NOT KNOW HOW TO USE THE CAMERA
    Hey man, take a chill pill. Telling this the normal way gets the job done too.
    07-12-2014 04:14 PM
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