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  1. Virgil Wilsterman's Avatar
    Received my 930 yesterday and I thought the camera would be better than my Lumia 920. I made two low light videos to compare the two. Do you think I have defective camera in my 930 or do you think I am going to have to live with this ?

    Lumia 920:


    Lumia 930:


    I am also seeing these strange purple flashes in videos when I move the phone to fast you can see that in these videos. The first video is shot from my Lumia 930. The second video shows the screen of my 930 you can see it lighting up when I move the phone.



    Last edited by Virgil Wilsterman; 07-18-2014 at 08:32 AM.
    07-18-2014 08:20 AM
  2. crimpy's Avatar
    I have now 3rd L930 with same problem... Seems to be HW bug on all 930.
    07-18-2014 09:41 AM
  3. Coreldan's Avatar
    Or then it's not a bug, but just the fact they are different cameras. 920 was marketed specifically with good low light imaging. I would think though that this could at least be improved upon with software.
    07-18-2014 09:50 AM
  4. Virgil Wilsterman's Avatar
    Or then it's not a bug, but just the fact they are different cameras. 920 was marketed specifically with good low light imaging. I would think though that this could at least be improved upon with software.
    I hope so cause this is really bad
    07-19-2014 08:37 AM
  5. MrWhiteman's Avatar
    I have this problem also. low light is also grainy. My gf has a 920, I will momentarily post comparison pics.
    920wp_20140719_23_26_08_pro.jpg
    930wp_20140719_23_26_40_pro.jpg
    920wp_20140719_23_28_16_pro.jpg
    930wp_20140719_23_28_51_pro.jpg

    Appalling results with 930 with flourescent light and low light
    Last edited by MrWhiteman; 07-19-2014 at 05:41 PM.
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    07-19-2014 05:23 PM
  6. Microsoftjunkie's Avatar
    Your 920 will ALWAYS have better lowlight performance than 930/1520. The aperture is smaller, so it brings in less light. The only way to "help" solve that problem is using longer exposure times.
    07-19-2014 05:30 PM
  7. MrWhiteman's Avatar
    Your 920 will ALWAYS have better lowlight performance than 930/1520. The aperture is smaller, so it brings in less light. The only way to "help" solve that problem is using longer exposure times.
    I for one am absolutely gutted, I bought the 930 because I thought the camera was superior. After looking on Tom's Hardware, it does look like the camera is inferior to the 920.
    07-19-2014 05:42 PM
  8. AJE1's Avatar
    I for one am absolutely gutted, I bought the 930 because I thought the camera was superior. After looking on Tom's Hardware, it does look like the camera is inferior to the 920.
    The 920 camera is better in a few situations, the 930 camera is better in more situations.
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    07-19-2014 06:05 PM
  9. MrWhiteman's Avatar
    Here's a comparison with the flash, tell me which one you prefer:
    1. wp_20140720_00_20_19_pro.jpg
    2. wp_20140720_00_22_41_pro.jpg
    07-19-2014 06:32 PM
  10. Stephen Vogel's Avatar
    I think I prefer the bottom pic, colours seem a bit more natural to me.
    07-19-2014 06:53 PM
  11. Nijaz Turdaliev's Avatar
    (ISO-800, exposure time 0.5 sec., WB - tungsten)
    Lumia 920
    wp_20140720_13_45_57_pro.jpg

    Lumia 930
    wp_20140720_13_47_21_raw.jpg
    07-20-2014 05:20 AM
  12. KllR007's Avatar
    Nijaz Turdaliev - 920 - green tint in picture. So in this one 930 wins at least for me.

    MrWhiteman- botton one, better colors. Which on is it ?
    07-20-2014 05:51 AM
  13. Kissanviikset's Avatar
    bottom one flash shot is better and it is taken with 930. Brighter photo is not always better. 920 looks washed out and lacks contrast. 930 shot is also sharper. I gave some hints to you MrWhiteman in here http://forums.windowscentral.com/nok...mia-930-a.html
    07-20-2014 10:04 AM
  14. jirkahtc's Avatar
    Here's a comparison with the flash, tell me which one you prefer:
    1. Click image for larger version. 

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    No doubt 2.
    07-20-2014 10:19 AM
  15. Coreldan's Avatar
    I don't think there are any "no doubt" options there for me. In some pics 920 looks better, in some 930 seems to do nicer for my preference.
    07-20-2014 11:43 AM
  16. Mizmo's Avatar
    I for one am absolutely gutted, I bought the 930 because I thought the camera was superior. After looking on Tom's Hardware, it does look like the camera is inferior to the 920.
    it's not inferior, they just have different strengths. lumia 930 is better in daylight, 920 better in lowlight. these things were known already before launch or the first tests just by looking at the specs....

    but the difference is, you can get similiar results than 920 with the 930 by using manual settings because of the improved OIS, but you can't get better daylight shots with the 920. overall the 930 has in my opinion the better camera.

    small comparison with low light

    920 auto
    920_auto.jpg

    920 manual
    930_manual.jpg

    930 auto
    930_auto.jpg

    930 manual
    930_manual.jpg

    all 4 pictures are too bright. 920 auto result is good, with manual settings it was possible to lower the noise (good visible in top left of the picture). 930 auto clearly worse than 920 but with manual settings it looks as good as 920 or even a little bit better. but the exposure time is with 1.2s quite high I can understand why they don't wanna use it with auto mode
    07-20-2014 12:13 PM
  17. TheOzgun's Avatar
    Seriously, after my 925 this camera is a joke at low-light. I don't remember a single situation that I needed the flash with my 925, but with 930 you definitely need it, even with medium light. Also it's incredibly noisy.
    07-20-2014 01:06 PM
  18. Jim Bob4's Avatar
    This is important to know. I have a 521 and a decent low light camera is an important feature for me in getting a new phone.
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    07-20-2014 02:08 PM
  19. Bernhard Koenig's Avatar
    I also had issues with the 930 camera in daylight. Most noticeable in photographs against the light, but the more I was using it, the more I was sure something was terribly wrong - every photo had some noticeable white haze all over it, the colors looked washed out and the photos never were really sharp. Even in best light conditions. I was very disappointed.

    Until today, I went into the local store and took the chance to use the demo device there to shoot some comparison pictures (exact same firmware version). The difference was amazing ... comparing the same motives side by side, the 930 can shoot very decent photos. This won't help in low light conditions, but if any of you also have problems in daylight ... try to find a comparison device to see if it's you or your device.

    I'd say the issue is most likely a wrongly aligned lens (lens groups).
    07-21-2014 03:16 PM
  20. zipro's Avatar
    Received my 930 yesterday and I thought the camera would be better than my Lumia 920. I made two low light videos to compare the two. Do you think I have defective camera in my 930 or do you think I am going to have to live with this ?

    Lumia 920:


    Lumia 930:


    I am also seeing these strange purple flashes in videos when I move the phone to fast you can see that in these videos. The first video is shot from my Lumia 930. The second video shows the screen of my 930 you can see it lighting up when I move the phone.



    It has the same crappy camera as the 1520 and shoots the same crappy low-light images - not much of a surprise, tbh.
    07-22-2014 02:49 PM
  21. DJCBS's Avatar
    Both the crappy low light images as well as that annoying purpleness and crappy ViewFinder are the same I have on my 930 and that is also present on the 7 930's I've tested in stores around town.

    I've reached to Juha Alakarhu (Twitter ‏@jalakarhu) about the crappy algorithms that are producing that much noise and grain on the photos in low light.
    And I've reached to Nokia Care (Twitter ‏@NokiaHelps) about the grainy image in low light on the ViewFinder. They've escalated the complaint to the imaging team.

    I suggest you all do the same. The more people complain about the same things, the quicker they'll understand that it's a problem with the way the software is programmed and hopefully fix it.
    07-22-2014 07:15 PM
  22. zokstar's Avatar
    I suggest you all do the same. The more people complain about the same things, the quicker they'll understand that it's a problem with the way the software is programmed and hopefully fix it.
    Thanks!! I'll do the same tonight when i get home!
    07-22-2014 07:27 PM
  23. George H Martin's Avatar
    This might seem kinda obvious, but use the flash in low-light conditions. That's whats its there for. Just cos it has 20MP camera, doesn't mean its good in low conditions without flash.
    07-28-2014 09:27 AM
  24. Daniel Stone93's Avatar
    Any update or fix bout this problem till now ? from Microsoft ?
    08-01-2014 06:44 AM
  25. anthonyng's Avatar
    Awww. I ordered the 930 expecting a better low light camera. Dammit! But at least it's gonna be way sharper and more detailed I hope! I hate using flash, but that flash pic with the baby above is really good, sharp, good balance
    08-01-2014 06:59 AM
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