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  1. Al_2's Avatar


    Just watched this "review" of the Lumia 930 by TechRadar. Unbelievably awful. The review barely looks at the phone at all and consists mainly of the presenters complaining about Windows Phone. They struggled to say anything positive whatsoever about the phone without making a "but" comment.
    07-19-2014 09:35 AM
  2. Ankit Nawlakha's Avatar
    Ignore! That's what i can say!
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    07-19-2014 09:46 AM
  3. Coreldan's Avatar
    I think many of the points are valid, though. He does however clearly say that he really likes the phone and it's the best Windows Phone out there so far. I agree that it's a bit meh to review a phone and mostly just talk about how you don't like the operating system, but many of the complaints about the OS were valid too.

    But like he said, "if you like Windows Phones, getting this is really a nobrainer". That's all I needed to hear :P
    07-19-2014 10:10 AM
  4. Richard Culverhouse's Avatar
    Yeah, then the pricks go back to playing with their iToys lol
    kencaz and Karthik Naik like this.
    07-19-2014 11:43 AM
  5. anon(5383410)'s Avatar
    It really is sad how pervasive Android and iPhone fanboys are in the industry. They're at every level. My boss and a few of our programmers went for sales force training and they told me one of the presenters went out of his way to trash WP. Like an out of left field trashing, and his gripe was that "their updates break it". I wish I was joking but that was his actual reasoning behind trashing the platform. That's the part that really annoys me. The majority of them have never even used a Windows Phone and if they have they picked one up, looked at it and put it down. It's always evident in their comments. They range from shortsighted, to stupid, to outright untrue.
    07-19-2014 11:53 AM
  6. falconeight's Avatar
    I agree with everything they said. WP was fresh for the longest time but it has failed to progress and remain fresh. The app comments are true and so are the camera ones. The ****ter speed on nokia devices are extremely slow. I still would buy one though.
    Beijendorf likes this.
    07-20-2014 12:51 AM
  7. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    It really is sad how pervasive Android and iPhone fanboys are in the industry. They're at every level. My boss and a few of our programmers went for sales force training and they told me one of the presenters went out of his way to trash WP. Like an out of left field trashing, and his gripe was that "their updates break it". I wish I was joking but that was his actual reasoning behind trashing the platform. That's the part that really annoys me. The majority of them have never even used a Windows Phone and if they have they picked one up, looked at it and put it down. It's always evident in their comments. They range from shortsighted, to stupid, to outright untrue.
    But their updates do break stuff. A lot
    N_LaRUE likes this.
    07-20-2014 12:56 AM
  8. TechFreak1's Avatar
    It is not that terrible, I have seen worse reviews then this.. where they just talk about their opinions and nothing about the phone. They did raise a few fair points, especially the timing given it is running on tech wise "old specs". I have an inkling if the 930 came bundled with Cortana, it would have gotten a better response from the reviewers.
    07-20-2014 09:58 AM
  9. Ryan ODonnell's Avatar


    Sponsored by EE, the Lumia is on the 3 network haha!

    Just watched this "review" of the Lumia 930 by TechRadar. Unbelievably awful. The review barely looks at the phone at all and consists mainly of the presenters complaining about Windows Phone. They struggled to say anything positive whatsoever about the phone without making a "but" comment.
    07-20-2014 10:11 AM
  10. anon(5383410)'s Avatar
    But their updates do break stuff. A lot
    You can say that about any software on the market (including your prized IOS and Android), that's an extremely vague and ambiguous comment. In the case I mentioned it was even worse than yours because he said "it breaks" matter of factly as if the phone is rendered unusable everytime it gets updated. Outright nonsense
    07-20-2014 11:01 AM
  11. Harry Wild's Avatar
    Yes! It knocks the 930 in a very indirect way by praising it then using the "but" to knock it! Kind of a comedy to me! Some points have merit but most are just off the wall! Snapdragon 800 is a over a year old processor!
    Erikn1 likes this.
    07-20-2014 11:37 AM
  12. rdubmu's Avatar
    The app issue is real, I recently had to switch to an iPhone only because of the app situation for work. I thought this review was spot on.


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    07-20-2014 11:46 AM
  13. TechFreak1's Avatar
    The app issue is real, I recently had to switch to an iPhone only because of the app situation for work. I thought this review was spot on.
    Out of Curiosity which app(s) are you missing?
    07-20-2014 12:08 PM
  14. godse573's Avatar
    I find myself fanboying far too much. Yes 8.1 is a fantastic update, but lets take a few steps back and analyze this a little more broader. This update contains features that other os's had a very long time ago. Nothing really eye opening or jaw dropping. I love Windows Phone, I really do, but when you step back and look at it, 8.1 is becoming a little bit bloated for what it is actually going to bring. If I was the CEO of a major corporation trying to make a mobile os compete with other top contenders, I would make sure something like 8.1 was finished and released as soon as physically possible. Take ios for example, I don't like it, but just look at it. Ios 7 brought a load of bigger and better features to make it appeal to a larger crowd. Still, I think even though they are slightly knocking on my phone, it is the bare truth. The app gap, the slightly outdated hardware, and the lack of the Lumias ability to stand out is hurting the appeal to the larger crowd. To me, this was an unbiased truthful review and even though I don't like it, I have to accept it. And so does everyone. I still think windows phone is the best os IN MY OPINION, but on the fact sheet it is still lagging behind and that is very disappointing.
    07-20-2014 12:21 PM
  15. AJE1's Avatar
    Ever since I started to browse TechRadar they have ALWAYS had a bias against NOKIA - I have never found their reviews of NOKIA phones to be fair and any praise is ALWAY grudgingly given.
    07-20-2014 12:24 PM
  16. Dratwister's Avatar
    Out of Curiosity which app(s) are you missing?
    You cannot ask this kind of question, really. Whatever they want from Android/iOS, WP surely misses it or it isn't official, that's the main argument Android/iOS can trash talk to WP recently. It's not about common app but about specific app for specific task.

    It likes asking Android/iOS if they have Fantasia Painter and you won't switch to them until they have it :) Well, and of course they don't, poor Android/iOS for missing such wonderful image editing app, eh?
    nizam ak, cubwolfuk and MikeSo like this.
    07-20-2014 12:27 PM
  17. badMojo69's Avatar
    Really who gives a rip about spec whores. Android started that crap, because their OS is garbage and needs as much power as it can get and even then it still lags...crashes and locks up. WP is more optimized than IOS. Yes that's MOP.
    07-20-2014 02:50 PM
  18. jonathan sink's Avatar
    Out of Curiosity which app(s) are you missing?
    my dad just took back the icon after 1 day. The reason being the apps. Unlike my brother who two years later can't name the app he wanted and they don't have, my dad had answers lol. He was looking for QuickBooks, PNC, and his local bank. Being a small business owner these are very important and a must so he went back to his iPhone. Which really sucks because had nothing but praise for the phone and OS.
    MikeSo likes this.
    07-20-2014 03:25 PM
  19. Great deal's Avatar
    HAvnt seen the review and frankly don't need to as there are different types of feelings based on perspective regardless of the Tech and OS.

    Some one who purchased the 930 - Will obviously not want to admit they purchased a dog of a phone and will obviously defend it whatever happens

    Fanboys - (iOS/Android or WP) - Have a blinkered view on anything non platform related - some havnt even tried the others recently to be able to really compare as each persons needs are different and blindly condemning the other platforms is just plain Ego talking.

    Bloggers/Reviewers - IF they do not fall into the above 2 categories and are completely unbiased then wed be fools for not listening, alas that is hardly ever the case so reaed individual reviews at your peril, good or bad.

    Realist - Looks at the direction the companies are taking , can guess whats happening and reads reviews from multiple sources before passing judgement, even then that judgment is based in their own specific needs.

    Solution - Make a list of your needs, find the tech that meets those needs and then.... GET ON with DOING the things that matter and are important, mobile phone technology (counter to what tech companies want us to believe) is NOT important.

    My own personal feeling towards the 930? Its OLD technology and for it to be a priced and pushed as the best WP device then quite frankly it deserves crap reviews as there is simply no denying the FACT that its 12 month old technology inside, the world has already moved on. that's 100% Nokias fault though as it was in their pipeline and as has been repeated many times its going to take a few months yet for the real MS tech to come through. Buy a 930 if you want, im keeping the 920 and 1020 until MS release something that I don't feel is rushed to keep us happy and also something in which its clear they have invested a whole heap of effort to gain market share....doesn't happen? Adios WP.

    EDIT: OK seen the review and I cant fault it in any way really, they are pretty much spot on.
    Last edited by Great deal; 07-21-2014 at 02:28 AM.
    07-20-2014 04:33 PM
  20. Chregu's Avatar
    The Lumia 930 is the most complete Windows Phone to date. It's the first to properly challenge the flagship might of Android and iOS with its impressive design, new Windows Phone 8.1 software and all round decent specs.
    Rating: 4 out of 5, while design has 4.5 out of 5 stars. Strange grammar in the summary sentence though.

    Nokia Lumia 930 review | Phone Reviews | TechRadar
    07-20-2014 04:52 PM
  21. Jazmac's Avatar
    I disagree with the OP that this is a terrible review. I think that for people who are android / ios centric, as these two are, this is how they all know Windows Phone. Not just these dudes, which I think are a couple fakers, but all of them. They know pressing an icon launches an app. A tile isn't suppose to do that and when the app runs, they get brain freeze and these two fakers get lock jaw at the same time.

    These two fake "struggling" with everything about Windows Phone from the size the the processor, the weight and color, swipe to the apps list, size of the tiles everything. They clearly are ios/android centric and know next to NOTHING about this operating system or what those that own this OS want or need. They freely admit what we all know that Windows Phone doesn't need the amount of power a typical android device needs to do the SAME THING but they don't celebrate that at all. It too is a problem. Say what?? How?

    We've heard the missing apps story but they fail to suggest what's missing. I mean, I know, but these cats don't. These "carcinogens" remind me of those self-centered "plastic" women reality shows where they brag they won't buy a $500 dollar pair of shoes because the $1000 dollar shoes HAS to be better simply because it cost $500 dollars more. These two are extremely ignorant about this device and seemingly devices in general.

    800 vs 801? Seriously? Even a story written for Android Authority written March of this year admit THEY can't even find a difference between the two but these two geniuses insist 801 is better and they don't say why? Why? Because they don't know. So why would anyone accept technical advice from these two? Least of all the hordes of average people buying smart phones. They could give a dang about 800 vs 801. Beyond that, these two don't live here so they don't know what Windows Phone is about to even have a cogent discussion.

    The silver lining I found in this wasted 15 minutes is even though neither can understand why Windows Phone rocks, they have not successfully made a case against it IMHO. But even better, Garret did answer the big question at the 4:15 mark, John asked Garret, was the Nokia 930 better than the Samsung S5? After a lot of stammering, he admits yes it is. Woot!
    07-20-2014 05:11 PM
  22. Joel DSO's Avatar
    I was surprised at how fair the review was, they are right, it doesn't stand out supremely, but I think its definitely got enough to compete quite evenly. I think they did kinda say that it is on the same level as the other flagship devices, except that it was released a few months later.
    I do wish they would have mentioned the video and audio recording, as I am sure that is where the 930 does stand out, I mean its got Dolby 5.1!!! other than that, the main reservation I have against the phone is that it is literally a ICON with a different colour and WP 8.1 pre-loaded
    07-20-2014 05:14 PM
  23. Joel DSO's Avatar
    I thought that they actually quite liked the phone, I mean, to quote "it feels like a Nokia". I think they meant that in the way that it just feels plain reliable and sturdy, not at all fragile, the way the 3310 did when it came out.

    and to me, that is a huge compliment, because I think that it was exactly that feel that made Nokia so hugely successful with feature phones! and its awesome that they have managed to bring that feel to smartphones
    07-20-2014 05:20 PM
  24. a5cent's Avatar
    A review is good if it is informative, factual, reasoned, fair and if the reviewers make a conscious effort to judge a device from as many angles as possible... not just based on their own personal preferences.

    Based on this, I think the review was okay. It wasn't a great review, as they spent a lot of time conveying relatively little information, not to mention that what they did convey was often just a lot of "vagueness". Still, it was better than many other reviews, where you can tell a lot of negativity stems solely from the lack of an Apple logo. They also tried hard to specify the target market, and while I probably would define the target market a tad broader then they did, "people who are already familiar with WP and looking for the best possible WP hardware to match" is at least not too far off. One of their strongest negative points was the late release date, and I don't think that is unfair. I'd agree that this device should have been available world wide six months ago, or at least the current off-contract price needs to be lower than it currently is.

    I agree that both reviewers appear to be purposefully avoiding all of WP's strong suits, but then again, it can be argued that this was a device review and not a WP8.1 review. The site is in general too "consumery" and not technical enough for my tastes, so I have no idea how they usually handle things, but as long as they are consistent and always just scratch at the OSes surface in their device reviews, then I'd be fine with that.
    07-20-2014 05:31 PM
  25. falconeight's Avatar
    Fanboying is not going to move this os forward. Just because you own, want, to prefer a certain brand of phone doesn't meant that its doing good. Look at what happened to blackberry. If you go over and look at crockery you will see a period of time where anyone and everyone who had something negative to say got banned. Now fast forward to today and they are lucky to still be alive. We can't go down that road. WP8 didn't need a pulldown menu. It needed to be evolved and made fresh. They should have stuck to integrating everything into the phone. Facebook, twitter, messages, and all other social media should be integrated into the hub. That was the greatest part about windows and its slowly going away. Microsoft also needed to develop a eco system similar to iOS.
    NokiaBeast and MikeSo like this.
    07-20-2014 05:44 PM
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