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  1. Racing Snake's Avatar
    I still don't understand how we got to the point where phones start to melt...
    I completely agree!!!
    To get to that temperature, you'd think it's going to be on the verge of bursting into flames!! (nice!).

    I would like to clarify though... I stated it's warped in a manner akin to melting.
    [disclaimer over]
    08-26-2014 01:10 PM
  2. vlad0's Avatar
    You can't blame Google and nor "their" OEMs. You can blame specific OEMs(Nokia in this case) for improper heat dispersion in the phone.

    I repeat again, you can't blame Google and their OEMs for a warped Lumia 930. You could however blame either Snapdragon or Nokia.
    I don't think I got my point across clearly.

    1. Google created an heavy operating system that needed more horsepower to run properly.

    2. Samsung & CO. picked that up and turned it into a differentiation strategy, aka "the spec race"

    3. Heavy operating system -> more computing power -> more heat -> melting plastic

    4. Big screens = more heat = melting plastic

    A more optimized operating system, and a more efficient way of using available computing power would prevent unfortunate events such as the one discussed in this very thread.

    The current generation of smartphones are generally overpowered and inefficient. Non of the software (expect maybe heavy 3D games) can take full advantage of the available computing power.

    The Android(Linux), iOS (Unix), and WP (Windows NT) kernels are all from the desktop/server era... obviously they were made for machines that are always plugged into the power grid, not devices with limited resources powered by a battery.

    They've done an amazing job to make them work, and they do, but the old design still lingers around..
    08-26-2014 01:36 PM
  3. salmanahmad's Avatar
    I don't think I got my point across clearly.

    1. Google created an heavy operating system that needed more horsepower to run properly.

    2. Samsung & CO. picked that up and turned it into a differentiation strategy, aka "the spec race"

    3. Heavy operating system -> more computing power -> more heat -> melting plastic

    4. Big screens = more heat = melting plastic

    A more optimized operating system, and a more efficient way of using available computing power would prevent unfortunate events such as the one discussed in this very thread.

    The current generation of smartphones are generally overpowered and inefficient. Non of the software (expect maybe heavy 3D games) can take full advantage of the available computing power.

    The Android(Linux), iOS (Unix), and WP (Windows NT) kernels are all from the desktop/server era... obviously they were made for machines that are always plugged into the power grid, not devices with limited resources powered by a battery.

    They've done an amazing job to make them work, and they do, but the old design still lingers around..
    It wasn't Google's fault, Android has always been more feature filled than other operating systems and with more features you need more and more horsepower, eventually Android did start focusing on optimizing the system more and I'm currently using a Nexus 5 running Android 4.4, extremely optimized and very smooth.

    It's pretty difficult to find how to balance features and performance, I mean just look at how much slower Lumia Cyan is than Lumia Black(because of all the new features). Again, you can't blame Android for that.

    If whatever you are saying is true, shouldn't all phones with a Snapdragon 800 have warped backs? No it doesn't happen so often. My Nexus 5 has a faster Snapdragon 800, it has the same kind of screen and also uses plastic and I don't experience heating issues.

    You are right about the specs war though, Snapdragon wasn't part of it at one time but will produce 8 core chips next year, the spec war is something I hate because phones need less and more powerful cores, like the Apple A7 chip. I wish that dual core powerful chips make a comeback in Android/Windows Phone someday, that would make it much faster.

    And yes Android was unoptimized at first but I can bet that if Android didn't exist, Windows Phone wouldn't have either.
    08-26-2014 02:53 PM
  4. Wam1q's Avatar
    And yes Android was unoptimized at first but I can bet that if Android didn't exist, Windows Phone wouldn't have either.
    The existence of WP is NOT linked with Android. It is linked with iOS. WP competes (or at least did) with iOS, rather than Android. I came from iOS, and some stupid things in WP (which also exist in iOS) make it more similar to iOS than Android. You can say that if iOS did not exist, WP would not have, but you cannot say the same for Android. If WP was created to compete directly with Android, it would be similarly feature-packed and open. But instead Microsoft went the opposite way from WM6 (Android-like) to WP7 (iOS-like).
    08-26-2014 03:49 PM
  5. salmanahmad's Avatar
    The existence of WP is NOT linked with Android. It is linked with iOS. WP competes (or at least did) with iOS, rather than Android. I came from iOS, and some stupid things in WP (which also exist in iOS) make it more similar to iOS than Android. You can say that if iOS did not exist, WP would not have, but not with Android. If WP was created to compete directly with Android, it would be similarly feature-packed and open. But instead Microsoft went the opposite way from WM6 (Android-like) to WP7 (iOS-like).
    The whole point of creating windows phone was the fact that it offered a balance between simplicity and functionality making it the most personal smartphone operating system, I'm pretty sure they looked at iOS's icons and Android widgets and functionality and merge them together.
    08-26-2014 04:56 PM
  6. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    This thread has run its course.
    Sent from my Nokia Lumia 920 using Tapatalk
    08-26-2014 06:38 PM
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