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  1. OwenDL's Avatar
    I one hand my 930 regularly. I used to use a little old 3rdgen iPod touch and now whenever I pick it up I absolutely cannot believe how tiny it is compared to my 930. Same with any iPhone before the 6. Holding my 930 in my right hand I can unlock it as I pick it up, scroll through my home screen with my thumb, and keyboard if I need to.

    It'll take some getting used to but once you do it'll be as natural and normal as whatever phone you used to use.
    10-21-2014 08:29 PM
  2. Chris_Germany's Avatar
    830 is the last Windows Phone. Maybe you should have a look, it is much better in my opinion:
    -Better Battery life
    -Camera is very good (930 is a not so good, but yes the specs are better)
    -lighter and slimmer
    -screen is good enough (dont see any differnece to 1080p)
    -cheaper
    -it is still very fast. Again, dont see much differnece to 930 (apart from games)
    -blabla...

    well just buy it and try it! I dont know, but in germany you can test devices for 14 days and give it back. Is that different to the US?
    10-21-2014 08:39 PM
  3. Fred Wilson2's Avatar
    I agree completely about thee 830.
    I had a 930 and sent it back, it had all the "standard" problems, color bleed on the screen, poor batty life, got pretty hot when using some apps, non-replaceable battery, no external storage, big, heavy.
    I've had the 830 for around a month now and like it much better. Great battery life, no color bleed on the screen, screen looks as good to me, does not get hot, SD card slot up to 128G, replaceable battery, much lighter, much thinner. I can not tell in difference in speed between the two at all.

    :)
    Fred


    830 is the last Windows Phone. Maybe you should have a look, it is much better in my opinion:
    -Better Battery life
    -Camera is very good (930 is a not so good, but yes the specs are better)
    -lighter and slimmer
    -screen is good enough (dont see any differnece to 1080p)
    -cheaper
    -it is still very fast. Again, dont see much differnece to 930 (apart from games)
    -blabla...

    well just buy it and try it! I dont know, but in germany you can test devices for 14 days and give it back. Is that different to the US?
    Joe Dubya likes this.
    10-22-2014 08:32 AM
  4. Zapella Tiago's Avatar
    I agree completely about thee 830.
    I had a 930 and sent it back, it had all the "standard" problems, color bleed on the screen, poor batty life, got pretty hot when using some apps, non-replaceable battery, no external storage, big, heavy.
    I've had the 830 for around a month now and like it much better. Great battery life, no color bleed on the screen, screen looks as good to me, does not get hot, SD card slot up to 128G, replaceable battery, much lighter, much thinner. I can not tell in difference in speed between the two at all.

    :)
    Fred
    No "Hey Cortana" it's a killer for me.
    10-23-2014 12:11 PM
  5. Fred Wilson2's Avatar
    I don't care about the lack of that at all.
    Don't use it.

    :)
    Fred

    No "Hey Cortana" it's a killer for me.
    10-23-2014 01:34 PM
  6. Suedezu's Avatar
    830 is the last Windows Phone. Maybe you should have a look, it is much better in my opinion:
    -Better Battery life
    -Camera is very good (930 is a not so good, but yes the specs are better)
    -lighter and slimmer
    -screen is good enough (dont see any differnece to 1080p)
    -cheaper
    -it is still very fast. Again, dont see much differnece to 930 (apart from games)
    -blabla...

    well just buy it and try it! I dont know, but in germany you can test devices for 14 days and give it back. Is that different to the US?
    I disagree and think that coming from an Iphone anything less than the 930 is a serious downgrade.

    You just have to take into consideration how amazing and speedy the 930's camera will be after Denim and Lumia camera will launch. Add to this the 1080p screen, the 4 HQ mics, 2 GB of RAM and the vastly superior processor.
    RaRa85 and gerzhwin like this.
    10-24-2014 09:34 AM
  7. FAHMI BASSEM's Avatar
    Good choice, congrats
    gerzhwin likes this.
    10-24-2014 09:38 AM
  8. agentmikeyd99's Avatar
    I switched my family plan's phone from the iPhone too. No major concerns and in fact the software on Windows is far superior to IOS. Regarding the app gap, I side by side compared my iPhone apps to the Windows Store and only my alarm co app was not available (pinned the website to Start screen and all good). I have the Lumia 1020 and the camera blows away any iPhone camera.

    You will be very happy after u switch
    Last edited by agentmikeyd99; 10-24-2014 at 10:33 AM.
    10-24-2014 10:00 AM
  9. RaRa85's Avatar
    If you are in the US and rely on the carrier system to get your phones, the only thing you will miss about iOS besides the app gap(there are tons of useful ones and games and just as many apps that are just there to fill out the store) is the absolute guarantee that the next flagship or device will be available on your carrier. The carrier exclusive model prevalent in the Windows Phone, mostly formerly Nokia phones, has left a bad taste in the mouths of supporters who either have to buy phones outright through various avenues(I usually went through eBay to buy phones not supported by my carrier), or make the decision whether its worth switching over to another carrier for a phone. If you like to upgrade frequently, you will be at a disadvantage compared to those who are able to basically "lease to own" phones through carrier plans like T-Mobile's Jump plan. Others than that the OS is very stable albeit with the annoying "resuming" issue that is small but annoying. Windows Phone is far more customizable than iOS and the photography community is the absolute best to be a part of. And with Windows 10 right around the corner, I'd say Windows Phone is on track for considerable attention for new users along with improved market share. IF(and this is my personal opinion) they can find a way to overcome this carrier exclusive nonsense that has stagnated growth on the platform. You will really enjoy Windows Phone though.
    daddymanAZ likes this.
    10-24-2014 10:07 AM
  10. Ty-C's Avatar
    You should ask a different question in situations like these. Instead of asking what you might be missing after the switch, you should ask what you will gain (ofcourse keep in mind the things that you indeed will/might miss). If you ask the question like this, the subject gets a more positive vibe.

    I've never in my life owned an Apple product and I (hopefully) never will. I say this simply because I feel the price you have to pay for any Apple device is far too high. In my country I'd be able to buy two L930's for the price of one iPhone 6 (if I pick 64/128GB). Same goes with certain tablets, desktops, etc.

    In the end it comes down to what you feel is important for your phone. If you can do all of these things with the L930, I would certainly get it.
    10-24-2014 10:21 AM
  11. YCSJ2980's Avatar
    In terms of one handedness, I think how you set up your start screen will help you. For items that I like the live tile, but never need to go into the app, I place the item on the left side of the three columns that I have (you can set up two if you wish also). This way I can see them, but never really have to stretch out my thumb for them. Anything that I use with regularity on the start screen I place on the right hand side or center so my thumb when holding with my right hand makes it easy to get to them. This helps minimize any stretching or scrolling I have to do to locate and reach what I'm looking for, while still enabling me to glance at tiles for items like weather and the such that I still want, but never need to click on. Beyond that though it's just getting used to the machine and personalizing it for yourself. an IPhone at least up until this version was optimized for one handed use, but with some customization and planning you can make the windows phones with larger screens up to the task too.

    YCS
    jddumawa and Ionistaval like this.
    10-24-2014 10:24 AM
  12. welsbloke's Avatar
    The 930 is a very capable phone and in my opinion the OS is a breeze to use and stable, Getting very impressive battery life out of it. I am happy with my suit of Apps and love the sensorcore feature.

    My experience with iOS has been patchy but when I have been forced to use maybe because of my WP background I struggle to use it. So maybe bouncing a question back at those who are iOS users who have jumped ship, is iOS really that much easier to use than WP8.1? I recently saw a comparison by a UK consumer magazine "Which?" who gave the 930 3 out or 5 stars for usability but gave the iPhone 6 5 which I found just plain odd.
    10-24-2014 10:29 AM
  13. mercblue281's Avatar
    Things you will miss when switching to a WP 8.1:
    1. Wired charging with impossibly uncompatible connector.
    2. Screen size made for Hobbits
    3. KEYBOARD UNFATHOMABLY STUCK IN CAPS
    4. Complete lack of NFC
    5. Pictures that are always mediocre.
    6. Terrible call quality
    7. many other expensive 'features'

    Enjoy your new WP 8.1 - the Icon is great but its on the most WP hating carrier so I'm glad to see the 930 coming.
    panmoria and Ionistaval like this.
    10-24-2014 10:31 AM
  14. noobchief's Avatar
    You will definitely miss the "premium" feel. Because Apple sells their "brand".
    10-24-2014 10:37 AM
  15. PBlessing's Avatar
    Honestly how much you will feel the change depends on what you use the phone for and who you have accounts with. Honestly there is not much of an app gap if any for me.

    For example ,finances my bank is there (Wells Fargo) Fidelity investments PayPal and Mint are all major players and on WP8.1

    For Music Pandora and I heart radio are both there and I personally like Xbox Music as I have a large collection of music on my Windows 8 PC and can then stream it and my playlists (or radios) on my phone or through the web at work.

    One Drive will replace icloud and has great integration into the phones. I have two Lumia phones the 1020 and 1520. The 1520 is my primary phone and I still use the 1020 as my primary camera. Having the ability to auto-upload the pictures via wifi from the 1020 to One drive makes it very easy to use on my 1520 or my desktop when working with Photoshop.

    And lastly across the board the majority of the social networking apps are available on WP8.1 and in a few instances (any app developed by Rudy Huyn) will be better than the official app on this platform and IOS or Android.

    Really it is about facing this platform with an open mind and realizing that while it is very different from the iPhone it has a good number of equal features and in some cases strengths over the iPhone (cough.. Cortana!)
    10-24-2014 10:41 AM
  16. k0de's Avatar
    Exciting phone, this Lumina 930. I like the personalization and three-dimensionality of the UI. Not that iOS and Android look and are boing, they're just different.

    Questions though: Is there a Lumia 930 update expected anytime soon? This probably being the last "Nokia" Windows Phone, what to expect from Microsoft?

    How stable is Windows Phone 8.1?

    What you'd be really missing about iOS?

    Thanks in advance for inputs!
    Free facetime, app quality, the keyboard, the flashlight.
    prasath1234 likes this.
    10-24-2014 10:45 AM
  17. wescoerg's Avatar
    I use an Icon (930) w/ 8.1 dev preview for personal and an iPhone for work.

    The only thing I use the iPhone for is a few apps and games that aren't on WP. Mainly Injustice, CoC (play with friends), and Plague Inc.

    The 930 will be a much better camera and productivity phone. Most apps that are on both platforms will feel better on the 930.
    10-24-2014 11:00 AM
  18. marciocattini's Avatar
    Free facetime, app quality, the keyboard, the flashlight.
    What about Skype?
    Keyboard in WP is much much better.
    The flashlight? for real? Get Jack of tools... the best app for all sensors and gadgets available on your phone...

    App quality comes with time....
    daddymanAZ likes this.
    10-24-2014 11:06 AM
  19. IceShells's Avatar
    You will miss how YouTube works on iPhone when you switch to Windows phone.
    10-24-2014 11:07 AM
  20. Waylon Payne's Avatar
    I miss the following:

    Actionable notifications in IOS 8
    Better lock screen notifications.
    Extensibility in IOS 8
    A fast browser
    VIP inbox.
    The ability to share links to twitter via another app
    Being apple to share mail attachements directly from mail to 3rd party apps like OneNote and Evernote.
    Being able to access music settings from the lock screen.
    Being able to minimize in mail composition so that I can copy content from other mails.
    The ability to answer calls on my mac.
    A settings screen that looks like some thought went into the design.

    What I like:
    Tiles
    Separate volume settings per output (I can set the equalizer up differently for my carkit)
    Camera and UI
    Nokia MixRadio
    Ability for the browser to run in the background (downloads).
    Wireless charging.
    Cortana
    The fact that I can change the equalizer from within mixradio.
    The preinstalled Lumia apps in general are quite good.
    I like that I can change a few settings and really personalize the look of the os.
    I like the screen on my 930 (no purple fringing).
    2gb ram means that I have less page reloads when resuming the browser.
    Better keyboard.
    Customisable quick settings.
    Battery saver, data sense and storage sense apps.
    When apps are designed properly for windows phone they can be better than IOS (my carriers app is an example).
    The ability to set the snooze time on my alarm (finally).
    Better weather app.

    Windows phone has some great features and potential but its still rough around the edges. It also doesn't help that Microsoft has made their office apps better on iOS.
    daddymanAZ likes this.
    10-24-2014 11:09 AM
  21. TaliZorah's Avatar
    Just a few apps that I miss. Other than that. WP does everything I need, is faster, and more secure
    10-24-2014 11:13 AM
  22. uberlaff's Avatar
    Be prepared to relearn your muscle memory. This is something that people don't bring up enough and was a big one for me.

    For example, my hands had the keyboard on iOS memorized and I found it hard to make the switch at first. There were a number of things where my finger just knew where to go on iOS but I had to stop and look on Windows Phone.

    Eventually this goes away and now it's the exact opposite but for the first few weeks your going to have some relearning to do.
    10-24-2014 11:16 AM
  23. eliteop's Avatar
    Flipagram that -actually- flips


    Instagram with video and more features (6tag you pay to remove adds)

    decent amount of games

    Folder system (non 3'd party and non dev preview)

    more than 5 oprions in the quick menu when swiping

    instant mute with 1 togge

    99.9% of apps allow landscape mode




    (I have iPhone and Lumia)
    10-24-2014 11:39 AM
  24. panmoria's Avatar
    So I went to the shop and compared the 830 to the 930 in real time.

    The 930's camera is consistently better.

    Rendering speed of applications is about the same.

    The 830's slimmer body is definitely easier and nicer with the one-hand approach.

    Difference of screens? Hard to tell any difference.

    If it wouldn't be for the 930's clear camera advantage, the 830 is a no-brainer.
    10-24-2014 12:19 PM
  25. TechFreak1's Avatar
    Windows phone is stable and always has been, unless on the preview for developers and using pre-consumer release software there abound to be some issues and bugs.


    When you get the Lumia 930, I would suggest you get the following apps

    1) Windows Central for the latest news about updates, apps, PSAs etc.

    2) MetroTube or Mytube for youtube (MetroTube is a donationware app with an unlimited trial).

    3) Simple Calendar, Cal or Chronos Calendar

    4) Skinnery themes for custom tiles and shortcuts.

    5) file manager first there are plenty of decent ones in the store I.e aerize, pocket explorer, files.

    Sure you can do without a file picker or manager however there are a few quirks that you need to be aware of, namely attachments from the email hub defaults to the Photo hub, to attach documents you need to use the share function in the office hub however you can only attach one document as attaching any subsequent documents directs you to the photo hub. The only way round this is to use a file manager or file picker if you don't want to use cloud storage to share links to documents.

    Another quirk is the music apps or now playing bar doesn't have a stop button, so you will need a app for that (I use stop+clear).

    Also the Wi fi toggle works differently, tap once to turn on however tapping again doesn't turn off but loads the Wi Fi settings page where you can choose if you want to turn it on manually or after a set period.

    The shortcut bar in the notification centre doesn't have a cellular data toggle, you can use skinnery ro create a shortcut or grab one from the store.

    Lastly the unread counter on the pinned tile disappears once the app is open regardless if you read the message or not.

    One aspect I love about windows phone is offline maps, download the maps once via Wi Fi thus saving your cellular data allowance.
    Last edited by TechFreak1; 10-24-2014 at 12:42 PM.
    10-24-2014 12:23 PM
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