03-16-2015 08:10 AM
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  1. OndrejBakan's Avatar
    Good morning guys,

    few months ago (summer 2014) I received money for my Lumia 920 back, as it suffered from bad ALS/proximity sensor 3 times in a row. I decided to wait for new flagship, which I hoped to be announced in fall / winter. Nothing happened.

    So I decided to wait for MWC. Still nothing. Now I am really tired with my low end Huawei Android and really want to jump in Windows Phone train again, but I am not sure, which one I should buy. Let me list my pros and cons.

    Lumia 830:
    + IPS
    + Glance Screen
    + microSD slot
    + price (cca $280)
    - CPU, HW in general
    - camera?

    Lumia 930:
    + camera?
    + HW
    - AMOLED
    - no Glance Screen
    - no microSD slot
    - price ($360 - $400), but still very good price for flagship

    I am unsure about the camera. I saw Lumia 930 and 830 comparison on Lumia Conversation and to be honest, I liked L830 photos lot more. Check here: Lumia 930 and Lumia 830 PureView camera hands-on - Lumia UK

    But I also think, that this comparison was made on L830 w Denim vs L930 w/o Denim.

    Now, when it's almost certain, that we won't see new flagship until fall 2015 (in stores), I think I should buy a phone now (and hold it for like year or so), until they announce, produce, sell and revise their new model.

    Guys, please, help me :( I am so undecided. Hope you can understand me, my English is more like Engrish :D
    Last edited by OndrejBakan; 03-07-2015 at 03:59 AM.
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    03-07-2015 01:52 AM
  2. zkyevolved's Avatar
    Haha. Your English is fine. ๐Ÿ˜ It really depends on what you want from a phone. I have the 930 and to be honest the battery life is crap. I can't get a day off of wifi. In 9 hours of normal use it'll be dead. But technically speaking the technology inside is a lot better.

    I prefer the ips display. I have both the 1520 v 930 and the screen of the 1520 shows truer whites. The whites on amoled is yellowish. Buy you wont notice it until you have them right next to each other. After seeing the screen difference I can't go back to amoled whites on the 930.

    But I will tell you that the 930 is a good phone. Awesome build. Great call quality. Dependable in performance.

    I haven't had the chance to play with the 830 but it seems like a good phone! Decent camera. And good battery life.

    A deal breaker for me now is the sd card slot...
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    03-07-2015 02:04 AM
  3. Butiulca Tudor's Avatar
    i think you should go for Lumia 930, i saw a comparison betweet lumia 930 and 830 and 930 is a lot faster at opening apps, games, the front camera on lumia 930 is really bad....
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    03-07-2015 02:09 AM
  4. OndrejBakan's Avatar
    Thx for your opinions, guys. As you can see, I like more things on L830 than on L930, except the camera and HW. Keep in mind, that this phone should be just temporary solution for my need of quality device until something better appears.

    Personally, I never considered Lumia 930 as a true flagship phone, as it lacks microSD slot and the best feature of WP devices - Glance Screen. The only thing, which is holding me from running to the store for L830 is worse CPU.

    I am really interested in mobile photography, but not sure if is better to have 4K video and better CPU or microSD & Glance. Really hard dilemma, Microsoft :(
    03-07-2015 03:20 AM
  5. Fred Wilson2's Avatar
    Don't know what you mean by "mobile photography", however if you mean digital photograhy I would recommend a inexpensive dslr for that and then, since you're looking for more of a "temp" phone until a new flagship is released, then the 830, which I have.
    I had a 930 and sent it back, it had all the "problems" you'll find talked about on this forum and the battery life was too bad for me.

    :)
    Fred
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    03-07-2015 09:34 AM
  6. lbeezy2188's Avatar
    I have a 830. It is slower than the 930 but it doesn't cripple the phone. The price is nice for all the features you get. For mw having the SD slot and removable battery sends it over the top. It runs everything the 930 can and takes excellent pictures. Glance screen is also there. The only thing you are truly missing out on is the "Hey Cortana" feature with the L830.
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    03-07-2015 09:58 AM
  7. OndrejBakan's Avatar
    Fred, thx for your post. In fact, I have DSLR (old Olympus, but still working :)), but I like taking photos with my phone and "pushing the limits". Btw, that's why we all have Lumia phones, isn't it? :)

    lbeezy, thank you too. As I am from Czech Republic, I don't really need (or can) use Cortana. There is no support by Microsoft, no local data on Bing, etc., so there are no benefits. Also, I tried it, but I feel strange talking to my phone in English in public :D
    03-07-2015 10:05 AM
  8. Blkacesvf41's Avatar
    If it's a temporary phone why not get yourself a nice 635 and save your money to get that flagship later.

    Sent from my YP-G1 using Tapatalk 2
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    03-07-2015 10:05 AM
  9. Fred Wilson2's Avatar
    The camera on the 635 (no flash, etc) my not suit the OP needs.
    Maybe the 640 or 640Xl though.
    Priced low with good features (and supposedly avail. next month).
    That would almost certainly work well as a temp. phone for now.

    :)
    Fred


    If it's a temporary phone why not get yourself a nice 635 and save your money to get that flagship later.

    Sent from my YP-G1 using Tapatalk 2
    03-07-2015 10:11 AM
  10. Iina the Magnet's Avatar
    I thought about this same question a long time, but I went with the 930 in the end. I don't regret it at all, I haven't had a problem with the battery life, on average I get 15-18 hours before charging it. I use lte/4g on it.

    Camera is actually pretty good, especially after denim. I'm not very good at it, but the pictures I do take look good on computer as well ๐Ÿ˜Š

    Heat issue isn't an issue on my phone, it warms up on intensive use, but I've never found it any hotter than what my Lumia 800 got. And it's the same as my husbands LG g2.

    I like the screen on 930, but I like amoled screens more. That's completely up to you there. The 830 has a really nice looking screen from what I have looked at it in stores.

    Either way you can't go wrong, they're both nice phones ๐Ÿ˜Š I also like the design on 930, it feels sturdy in hand, and for me it's a nice grip.
    03-07-2015 11:29 AM
  11. anon5999636's Avatar
    If it's a temporary solution, you will love the 830. I got one last week and it's a great phone for the price. It's light, thin and premium looking. Games like Asphalt 8 runs very well and doesn't heat the phone. I will wait for a Lumia 940 too and got 830 to test Windows 10. ๐Ÿ˜
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    03-07-2015 11:47 AM
  12. James8561's Avatar
    1520. The best. Has all features of 830 and 930 and more plus gorgeous 6" IPS LCD and the best battery life.
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    03-07-2015 02:22 PM
  13. snowmutt's Avatar
    I will throw out there that you may find an inexpensive L1520 or L1320, either of which are top end to this day. But since they have been out for over a year each, they are available fairly reasonable. Like James8561 mentioned, the L1520 takes second to no WP, Android, or iOS for features, camera, and support, and the 1320 is second to none in mid-range.

    But, since you are not asking about those, I vote the L830 for your purpose. It has been a real trooper as far as real life performance. It will be a nice bridge from point "A" to point "B". It is not top end in any way, but is reasonable enough to get you by to Summer/Fall.

    Only if camera is something you cannot compromise on would I recommend the L930. I have no personal experience with it, but as far as Lumia's go, the complaints have been fairly consistent.
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    03-07-2015 07:06 PM
  14. Raviraj Halarnekar's Avatar
    I think you should go for 640XL now(i mean when it is released) save some money and later you can go for the Flagship.
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    03-08-2015 12:36 AM
  15. Panathas's Avatar
    Ya, would also go for 640 or 640xl if I just needed a temporary solution. Seems to be nice phones.
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    03-08-2015 01:15 AM
  16. thatdennis's Avatar
    Why not go with the 730/5? Sure it's not a flagship, but it's way cheaper and should also give you what you want (unless you want a superior camera experience). I bought the 730 to patiently wait for a flagship phone, been great ever since (excluding the camera, since if you compare it with the Xperia Z2 it loses quite far).

    The only reason not to get 830 I could think of is the price. Bang for your back is not up to par.

    I'll also probably steer clear of the 930, as it would get hot often and has no micro-sd support. I say only buy the 930 if you want a top performing phone, though with a WP OS I see no need of that.
    03-08-2015 01:16 AM
  17. anthonyng's Avatar
    Ya, would also go for 640 or 640xl if I just needed a temporary solution. Seems to be nice phones.
    Agree with this for a temp phone (Lumia 930 owner and have a friend with a 830)
    03-08-2015 01:28 AM
  18. furkanavshar's Avatar
    Lumia 830's lens and Pureview tech is better than 930's.
    Also L8xx series is the most seamless and perfect serie of Lumia. There is no heat issue, no purple tint issue, no battery drain with Lumia 830. So I would choose Lumia 830. SD card, removable battery and back plate, IPS LCD display and -OMG- Glance Screen support is a big dealer for me.
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    03-08-2015 08:32 AM
  19. anon(5843918)'s Avatar
    If you are considering to buy the windows 10 flagship when it is released, I would seriously consider the Lumia 640 as it is much more wallet friendly and has very similar specs to the Lumia 830. The only drawback with the 640 is the ok camera, it doesn't have ZEISS or OIS, but it you're not a huge camera fan it shouldn't be a big problem. Also the new windows 10 flagship should easily best any previous camera modules (except probably Lumia 1020) and will come with all the bells and whistles (ZEISS, PUREVIEW OIS etc)
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    03-08-2015 09:02 AM
  20. Malay Agarwal's Avatar
    930.
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    03-08-2015 09:06 AM
  21. iaampeppe's Avatar
    To me, the 930's design is better. I do own one and I'm totally satisfied with the camera, the audio recording, the way that apps open faster ..
    I would recommend you to buy the 930

    Edit : "Iina the Magnet" resumed it well
    The phone only heats with intensive use, and the amoled screen is really gorgeous
    Last edited by iaampeppe; 03-08-2015 at 10:18 AM.
    03-08-2015 10:01 AM
  22. JP8296's Avatar
    Personally, I never considered Lumia 930 as a true flagship phone, as it lacks microSD slot and the best feature of WP devices - Glance Screen. The only thing, which is holding me from running to the store for L830 is worse CPU.

    I am really interested in mobile photography, but not sure if is better to have 4K video and better CPU or microSD & Glance. Really hard dilemma, Microsoft :(
    32g of storage is a lot, the lack od SD slot is getting old for excuse to not consider the 930 a true flagship, the new galaxy S6 does not have one a maybe this is the future for smartphones as sd cards have a lot of drawbacks due to speed writing. Glance is a personal choice but pretty easy to live without it and you can always can use double tap.

    Lumia 830's lens and Pureview tech is better than 930's.
    Also L8xx series is the most seamless and perfect serie of Lumia. There is no heat issue, no purple tint issue, no battery drain with Lumia 830. So I would choose Lumia 830. SD card, removable battery and back plate, IPS LCD display and -OMG- Glance Screen support is a big dealer for me.
    Why is Pureview tech on the 830 better than the 930? The sensor on the the 830 is 1/3.4" (smaller sensor)vs an 1/2.5 on the 930 that gives you better quality. the 830 has f2.2 vs f2.4 on the 930, the f2.2 is a little better on low light condition but worst on everything else (f2.4 gives you more def of field than the f2.2).

    I did try the 830 and my conclusion was simple....go for the 930.
    03-08-2015 10:09 AM
  23. furkanavshar's Avatar
    Why is Pureview tech on the 830 better than the 930? The sensor on the the 830 is 1/3.4" (smaller sensor)vs an 1/2.5 on the 930 that gives you better quality. the 830 has f2.2 vs f2.4 on the 930, the f2.2 is a little better on low light condition but worst on everything else (f2.4 gives you more def of field than the f2.2).

    I did try the 830 and my conclusion was simple....go for the 930.
    Easy champion. OK, you have a 930 now. We can understand why so excited about 930.

    BUT,

    I have had a 930 once, too... Let's some be realistic...
    I sold 930, then bought a 1520 becuz lack of SD card, battery and Glance support. I've tried L830 for a week and I think it is "junior 1520".
    No heat (930 was so much), no battery drain (930 was much), has glance and SD card support. Also 830's Pureview OIS is better than 930's. You can compare them in front of your own eyes.
    If the OS was Android, I would advice L930 because of hardware. But with Windows OS, L830 is doing its work as good as L930 without heating and without draining battery.
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    03-08-2015 10:23 AM
  24. TLRtheory's Avatar
    32g of storage is a lot, the lack od SD slot is getting old for excuse to not consider the 930 a true flagship, the new galaxy S6 does not have one a maybe this is the future for smartphones as sd cards have a lot of drawbacks due to speed writing. Glance is a personal choice but pretty easy to live without it and you can always can use double tap.
    I'd have to respectfully disagree with the notion that "lack of SD slot is getting old as an excuse".

    Let's look at what we have here: top of the class processing power, a wonderful camera and an overall wonderful device that's capable of doing the best the platform can offer... in my case, that meant my 32GB (which, BTW is eaten up greatly by OS files and backup) had my high-resource games, high quality pictures/videos and FLAC audio competing for that same tiny little bit of space.

    Since I've had both, I found that the 830 actually had better battery life and it stayed cooler... and I appreciated the thinner form factor since the 930's quite thick.
    03-08-2015 10:43 AM
  25. JP8296's Avatar
    Easy champion. OK, you have a 930 now. We can understand why so excited about 930.

    BUT,

    I have had a 930 once, too... Let's some be realistic...
    I sold 930, then bought a 1520 becuz lack of SD card, battery and Glance support. I've tried L830 for a week and I think it is "junior 1520".
    No heat (930 was so much), no battery drain (930 was much), has glance and SD card support. Also 830's Pureview OIS is better than 930's. You can compare them in front of your own eyes.
    If the OS was Android, I would advice L930 because of hardware. But with Windows OS, L830 is doing its work as good as L930 without heating and without draining battery.
    I'm calm don't worry :)
    Ok I have a 930 but that's not why I say that I prefer the 930. Like I say, I try the 830 and 'in my opinion' is not as good as the 930, the 1520 due to is size is not for every user. you have a different opinion and I'm ok with that.
    The heating problem is not a problem..lot of phones get hot and the aluminium frame helps on that but nothing that bad as some people say, at least mine dos not get hot that often and a play a lot with him.
    Like i said before, glance is a matter of personal choice, I had the 925 and never used so no big deal for me.
    In my opinion even that the IS on the 830 is better I prefer 2x real zoon, the bigger sensor for more quality and the 4K (not for the video it self but for the Lumia moments at 8.3mp )
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    03-08-2015 10:47 AM
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