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  1. Rainmarie's Avatar
    WP does have toast notifications for certain apps. It lights up my phone for breaking news and such. I would love it do it for email and texts but alas it doesn't do it. As for apps you can take a look at the real estate online. That's what I did and saw what I needed. Maybe I didn't see Hotdog Bush or PNC Bank, for example, but I did see Pandora. It's okay if you decide not to get the phone. I have had my 1520 for 2 months now and fell in love with it.
    Last edited by Rainmarie; 02-19-2014 at 11:11 PM.
    02-19-2014 11:00 PM
  2. IdemanEric's Avatar
    Disclaimer: I am buying the Icon, switching from many years of happy Android life simply because I like change and everything else in my life is a Windows 8 device. With that said... Does it not frustrate everyone that every time I see a "cool new feature" of WP it is something that you would figure would have been S. O. P. years ago? Microsoft is a pretty big tech company... I don't get it. Either way, I would like to know if anyone is a long time Android user that switched and was and still remains... Happy. I think the reviews are clearly biased so I'll wait for my own evaluation. I just don't want to end up saying "the only advantage is the camera."

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    02-19-2014 11:11 PM
  3. reidbp's Avatar
    Disclaimer: I am buying the Icon, switching from many years of happy Android life simply because I like change and everything else in my life is a Windows 8 device. With that said... Does it not frustrate everyone that every time I see a "cool new feature" of WP it is something that you would figure would have been S. O. P. years ago? Microsoft is a pretty big tech company... I don't get it. Either way, I would like to know if anyone is a long time Android user that switched and was and still remains... Happy. I think the reviews are clearly biased so I'll wait for my own evaluation. I just don't want to end up saying "the only advantage is the camera."
    I messed around with the camera today when I was using it and similar to reviews it was slow. Even turning flash off and lowest quality setting, it was slow. Even on my relatively old GS3 it takes pictures so fast many people aren't used to it and barely realize they took a picture. NOW, on the flip side, I like being able to snap a bunch of pictures in a row because "one will turn out good." I didn't snap a single picture on the Icon today that wasn't solid (even though I was in a well lit mall, and could have taken 5 pictures on my GS3 in the time it took to take one on the Icon.) So I'm not sure the speed would be an issue to me at all.
    02-19-2014 11:18 PM
  4. DennisvdG's Avatar
    Disclaimer: I am buying the Icon, switching from many years of happy Android life simply because I like change and everything else in my life is a Windows 8 device. With that said... Does it not frustrate everyone that every time I see a "cool new feature" of WP it is something that you would figure would have been S. O. P. years ago? Microsoft is a pretty big tech company... I don't get it. Either way, I would like to know if anyone is a long time Android user that switched and was and still remains... Happy. I think the reviews are clearly biased so I'll wait for my own evaluation. I just don't want to end up saying "the only advantage is the camera."

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    well ios and android have existed twice as long as wp, so it's not strange that wp has some catching up to do
    02-20-2014 12:17 AM
  5. muneshyne21's Avatar
    I got a Lumia 928 and I came from Android. There are a ton of things that I love about WP vs. Android.
    -First off the contacts integration with facebook/twitter/linkedin/gmail/yahoo/hotmail accounts are really really well done. I know there may be Android apps that can do this but for some reason...it just isn't the same or done as well. The depth of integration with WP is sometimes too integrated. Photos, Contact info, posts, messages, and e-mails can all be seen in each contact you have from everything you link up to it. You technically dont even need the social apps since you even get a live feed both in the general contacts page and each individuals page. As a power social user this integration is extremely useful.
    -The camera. I seriously think those that try to downplay peoples use of their camera and point out the app gap issue are just jealous. Nokia procam software and carl zeiss optics are amazing. Slower than the others but much more powerful. Its like choosing between a motorbike and a V8 turbo diesel truck. The speed is faster than any point and shoot so I appreciate the vast array of bells and whistles that go along with it. Im not trying to catch bigfoot so 1 second snapshots arent necessary. Besides there is a quick snap setting that can take 5 shot a second apart. Lowlight shots are a huge step above the rest. Why should you care? Because I realized on my facebook/instagram feed that all my friends are limited to making daylight memories. Do their lives stop at sunset or when they are inside? I think I'm the only one with just as many crisp night time action photos as daytime shots. It also takes crazy macroshots and the Xenon flash is wicked.
    -Glance. Soooooooo much better than a notification light. With glance I pull out my phone a see how many missed calls, emails, messages, updates I have. Oh and the time. You'd think a constantly running screen when the phone is technically off would really drain battery. Nope and I even downloaded the beta glance background app that shows pictures.
    -Updates. I think one of the greatest things about this phone is the software update set-up. I know exactly where you are coming from with the whole Update promise then burn situation. Android is notorious for this. Its partly the carriers fault too. Android in particular is limited by the carriers abillity to test and push it through. I got one major update and one minor update for my Revolution and that was in a two year period. My lumia, so far has gotten 2 major microsoft updates plus two 2 major nokia updates in 7 months and has made my phone MORE stable. Im also going to get 8.1. This isnt even the good part. Microsoft/Nokia was smart enough to break out the OS into system "apps" so updates or bug fixes can be sent separately without the need to go through the carrier. Just yesterday I got a Touch screen update that finally adds the option of turning off haptic feedback for the bottom 3 buttons. Although Apple got the best deal by bypassing carriers completely for OS updates, I think Microsoft/Nokia found a clever way to get around this issue. Larger updates like 8.1 will still need to go through the carrier unfortunately.
    -Buttery smooth. Not one hiccup. I was having occasional screen freeze early on but Its been gone for a while now. Maybe this last update did the trick. Nothing lags. True the animations may mask this but I'll take a smooth animation over teeth grinding screen stutter/delay any day. I'm way less on edge with this phone. Im at the point where I take its smoothness for granted which was never the case for my previous phone.

    Notice how everything sets a very strong foundation for a futureproof phone that can keep up with the times? Phone features are incidental and just a matter of time before they come. WP8.1 will bring the OS up to Android/iOS par even though I havent really run into any major issue myself and my phone will get the update The camera cant really be upgraded so it better work well in all occasions not just mid day. In terms of apps I have everything I had on my Android. Lack of apps/games is just a teeniebopper issue where they HAVE to have the latest apps or they will be chastised by their group of peers. When it comes to proprietary apps that let you control your Nest Thermostat and stuff like that, I have a simple solution to that. Program it before you go on vacation and dont forget! (Although there is a 3rd party Nest app available)
    Last edited by muneshyne21; 02-20-2014 at 02:31 AM.
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    02-20-2014 02:13 AM
  6. Mr Hyde's Avatar
    What I like about WP... (disclaimer, I never had an iPhone or an Android phone but my wife and oldest daughter has iPhone and youngest daughter had Android, she just switched to Windows)

    The first thing I like is the interface. I really like the tiles. I like that I can resize them and arrange them as I want. I also like that the apps I chose not to pin as tiles are in alphabetical order. It just makes things easy to find. I like that I can pin just about anything as a tile. I created a group in the People app called family then pinned the family group as a tile. Having quick access to the family is awesome for me. I LOVE the live tiles. I like seeing the 3 day weather forecast just by looking at the tile. My calendar tile shows my next few appointments. Other tiles do their thing. Its one of my favorite features. Integration with One Drive (Sky Drive) is awesome. I like that my photos are uploaded and are available on my surface. I like the built in office applications. Having Office on my phone has saved my **** quite a few times. How can you not like having Office for free on your phone? and then there are the Nokia apps. Here Maps and Here Drive are both great apps and both are free. I no longer have a GPS unit in my car. Free GPS with turn by turn directions and Free Map Updates? how cool is that.

    I know I'm a bit of a MS geek. I loved WIN 8 from the start and its only gotten better. I had the Original Surface and have upgraded to Surface 2. Surface 2 is just an awesome device. and of course the PC's with Win 8. Oh and the X Box 360 and X Box One, cant forget about them.

    I know Windows Phone doesn't have the apps that iOS and Android have. WP only has about 150,000 apps. Only... that makes me laugh. I can say there are some apps that would be nice to have but I really cant say I'm overly disappointed with the app selection. WP has too many positives for me to worry about the few negatives. I currently have a Lumia 822 on Verizon. Will I upgrade to the Icon? Hard to say at this point. I really love my phone. It does everything I want and need it to do and then some. If I were to upgrade it would only be for the sake of upgrading so I could have the latest and greatest WP for Verizon. right now I'm on the fence about if its worth it to chunk out $200 just to have something new. I'll probably wind up getting the Icon but probably not on Launch day (today). anyway, that's my two cents about windows phone for what its worth.
    02-20-2014 02:39 AM
  7. muneshyne21's Avatar
    I'd wait till they get glance up and running on that monster. At least you can enjoy Lumia Black on the 822 for the time being
    02-20-2014 02:43 AM
  8. MrWhiteman's Avatar
    The Icon is a Verison only phone. Don't buy it, it's probably got loads of issues.
    02-20-2014 04:09 AM
  9. etad putta's Avatar
    The Icon is a Verison only phone. Don't buy it, it's probably got loads of issues.
    No, it's a solid windows phone on one of the best networks in the US. And if updates come as promised it "could" be even better.
    02-20-2014 05:39 AM
  10. Rainmarie's Avatar
    I have a Nexus 7 tablet and have only had several Samsung phones on Android. Never owned an apple product. With my Nexus, Surface RT and Windows Phone I enjoy both Android and Windows Operating systems. I've also tried Ubuntu. Separate topic I know.
    02-20-2014 07:12 AM
  11. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    I've been burned by the "feature coming soon" statement before but will look into 8.1 more. Thanks. Really hate no notification light though.
    It was a bit annoying at first, but I don't care about it now myself. It's too bad that they wouldn't put Glane into the Icon, though. Glance now allows for the showing of notifications on the screen while the device is locked, so I can see when I have an e-mail or text (as well as my battery percentage) without unlocking the device. It's not AS handy as a notification light, but it's nice.
    02-20-2014 09:30 AM
  12. radmanvr's Avatar
    I used Android for 2 years. I liked it a lot. It was my first smartphone. It did everything I needed to do but everything changed when the fire nation attacked. (Joke). Eventually, it started getting slower and slower and come to find out I was not getting updates.

    Frustrated, I did some research and figured out how to root my device and flash different ROMs. I went from Froyo to Gingerbread then to Honeycomb. Didn't like the keyboard for Honeycomb so had to find a different ROM that was running Honeycomb but with Gingerbread keyboard.

    Loved the customization on Android it was fun flashing different ROMs and looking at what Devs (Cooks) made in the SDK (Kitchen). Jumping on Ice Cream Sandwich before it was even released to the public and then finally it happened..... Jelly Bean...... The update that made my phone terribly slow.

    I owned a MT4G, 1Ghz Qualcomm Snapdragon processor with 768MB of RAM, but it could not keep up anymore. Everything was slow. Email slow. App slow. Facebook slow. Everything slow and that was when I made the switch to Windows Phone 8.

    So far I am happy with WP, I don't need to flash custom ROMs to keep up. At first I was a bit turned down by the app selection but its so good now. The customization is not as much but still enough to leave uniqueness.

    My favorite thing about WP is Groups/Rooms. My wife and sister share a room with one another and we are able to update grocery list. Put evens on calendar, like bills and parties, concerts and we pretty much don't need to call each other and there is no excuse for anything because its on the calendar.

    Facebook integration is good although not full feature but thats understandable. (its missing @feature, cant tag people)

    Been using it 2 years now its still fast, Email fast, App fast, Jimmy Johns fast, everything fast.
    02-20-2014 09:56 AM
  13. jleebiker's Avatar
    well ios and android have existed twice as long as wp, so it's not strange that wp has some catching up to do
    The problem with this statement is that those OS's have been out and there is a info about what apps work and which features people like. It's not like WP is being developed in a vacuum. Or is it...
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    02-20-2014 10:37 AM
  14. jleebiker's Avatar
    The Icon is a Verison only phone. Don't buy it, it's probably got loads of issues.
    I smell troll.
    02-20-2014 10:38 AM
  15. radmanvr's Avatar
    The problem with this statement is that those OS's have been out and there is a info about what apps work and which features people like. It's not like WP is being developed in a vacuum. Or is it...
    Then why did MS developed their own platform. Should just have developed apps for Android and Iphone because thats what works and what people like. They would have probably made more money this way.

    They got into the game late so it takes them a bit. I think WP8 was just to get their foot in the door and WP8.1 is the real deal. Can you imagine if WP8 never came out and it was only WP7 waiting to update to WP8.1. If this happened they would be super behind because a lot of apps were possible due to WP8.
    02-20-2014 10:48 AM
  16. Fade_z's Avatar
    Then why did MS developed their own platform. Should just have developed apps for Android and Iphone because thats what works and what people like. They would have probably made more money this way.

    They got into the game late so it takes them a bit. I think WP8 was just to get their foot in the door and WP8.1 is the real deal. Can you imagine if WP8 never came out and it was only WP7 waiting to update to WP8.1. If this happened they would be super behind because a lot of apps were possible due to WP8.
    In the short term they might have made more, but its not very stable when you don't have your own eco system, because android works better with google docs not office because google owns android.

    And wp8 is not by definition a placeholder to get their foot in the door, just look at the early iOS and android versions.
    You learn alot from feedback and updating regularly is accustomed in the mobile world.
    In that sense ios 6 was a placeholder for 7, because 7 brought the "bang" and 6 was just a refurbished ios 5
    02-20-2014 11:06 AM
  17. reidbp's Avatar
    Thanks for the replies guys, appreciate it. Although I agree some of the features are nice, I don't think it can overcome for me where it lacks, even with 8.1. Maybe another windows phone will come out that has some things I want soon!
    02-20-2014 12:12 PM
  18. JMBasquiat's Avatar
    It doesn't really lack, as much as your needs are very specific. Sounds to me like you want to stick with Android and your notification light and are now just looking for reasons to confirm your choice.

    Sorry if that comes off as rude, but it's how I'm reading your posts.
    02-20-2014 01:12 PM
  19. tgp's Avatar
    Thanks for the replies guys, appreciate it. Although I agree some of the features are nice, I don't think it can overcome for me where it lacks, even with 8.1. Maybe another windows phone will come out that has some things I want soon!
    In my opinion the advantages of WP are mostly personal preference. In functionality even 8.1 won't offer much, if anything, over Android or iOS. And some deficiencies will still be there. Sure, you may prefer the UI, and WP will be a step in moving away from Google's grasp. But if those issues don't apply to you, then there's not a compelling reason to switch.
    02-20-2014 01:18 PM
  20. Torch4x4's Avatar
    Thanks for the replies guys, appreciate it. Although I agree some of the features are nice, I don't think it can overcome for me where it lacks, even with 8.1. Maybe another windows phone will come out that has some things I want soon!
    I understand you, I have a similar post in android central asking people to help me to switch back to Android after enjoying WP for more than 1 year, still not convinced even if MS apps/services works well in Android, yesterday finally they released the OneDrive with auto upload, a feature that I love on WP, Pandora is not free anymore on WP, and there are some Android devices with wireless qi charger to choose, but there are some features that I can't live without, Here Drive with offline maps, contacts integration, pin almost everything to home screen, updates before the carrier with the developers preview program, and some others...
    02-20-2014 02:04 PM
  21. Moiz Mian's Avatar
    Disclaimer: I am buying the Icon, switching from many years of happy Android life simply because I like change and everything else in my life is a Windows 8 device. With that said... Does it not frustrate everyone that every time I see a "cool new feature" of WP it is something that you would figure would have been S. O. P. years ago? Microsoft is a pretty big tech company... I don't get it. Either way, I would like to know if anyone is a long time Android user that switched and was and still remains... Happy. I think the reviews are clearly biased so I'll wait for my own evaluation. I just don't want to end up saying "the only advantage is the camera."

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    I also have a Nexus 4 that I recently bought to compare with my 920. So I can give you the other side, trying to adjust to an Android phone. The big thing about Windows Phone is the smoothness and naturalness of the transitions, the scrolling, the keyboard, etc...One thing I can't stand about android is how unnatural it feels. I don't know if you've compared something like pinch to zoom or scrolling with an iphone or windows phone. It just feels a lot smoother. You also have bounceback at the end of lists, you have nice transitions and everything is fluid. Webpages render properly unlike Android where everything wraps including headers and such. This is the number 1 draw of Windows Phone for me. I totally get the lack of customizability and for me the trade off was worth it. And on top of that, WP8.1 will be getting every feature that Android and IOS have in the April update. The update is huge, and I think all of that is just icing on the cake. It will get all the customizability you have ever wanted. It's of course up to you though. The list of wp8.1 features is posted in this thread, and I don't believe that even covers everything.

    In respect to Glance, I have no doubt it will be released in short time. They said the same thing about the Lumia 520 and 620, but glance did eventually make it's way to those phones too.
    02-20-2014 03:31 PM
  22. slowburnaz's Avatar
    In respect to Glance, I have no doubt it will be released in short time. They said the same thing about the Lumia 520 and 620, but glance did eventually make it's way to those phones too.

    There is no Glance on the 520... just double-tap to wake.
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    02-20-2014 03:36 PM
  23. MobileVortex's Avatar
    There are more and better calendar apps that are better then the stock one. I'm not a heavy calendar app user so i cant list them.
    02-20-2014 03:38 PM
  24. admorris#AC's Avatar
    I also have a Nexus 4 that I recently bought to compare with my 920. So I can give you the other side, trying to adjust to an Android phone. The big thing about Windows Phone is the smoothness and naturalness of the transitions, the scrolling, the keyboard, etc...One thing I can't stand about android is how unnatural it feels. I don't know if you've compared something like pinch to zoom or scrolling with an iphone or windows phone. It just feels a lot smoother. You also have bounceback at the end of lists, you have nice transitions and everything is fluid. Webpages render properly unlike Android where everything wraps including headers and such. This is the number 1 draw of Windows Phone for me. I totally get the lack of customizability and for me the trade off was worth it. And on top of that, WP8.1 will be getting every feature that Android and IOS have in the April update. The update is huge, and I think all of that is just icing on the cake. It will get all the customizability you have ever wanted. It's of course up to you though. The list of wp8.1 features is posted in this thread, and I don't believe that even covers everything.

    In respect to Glance, I have no doubt it will be released in short time. They said the same thing about the Lumia 520 and 620, but glance did eventually make it's way to those phones too.
    I wouldn't say that 8.1 is going to provide ALL of the features of iOS and Android, but it certainly will help wp get closer to them...at least Android.

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    02-20-2014 03:54 PM
  25. muneshyne21's Avatar
    Yeah I dont think this guy really wanted to switch. There is a great article on Phonearena dealing with switching to WP and the app gap. The writer put it very succinctly. Windows phones will cover most needs of a typical smartphone user with some pluses and minuses BUT if you are looking for an Android/Google experience why would you even be looking into WP in the first place?
    02-20-2014 04:29 PM
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