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  1. jokoluhur's Avatar
    Hi,

    i'm from indonesia and would like to buy lumia icon, do you know how i can buy or maybe someone in this forum can help me?

    Thank you
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    02-26-2014 04:05 AM
  2. SpareBot's Avatar
    You are not alone. I just recently wrote an article for the german techsite www.deathmetalmods.de why Europe needs a Lumia Icon: Warum Europa ein Lumia Icon braucht | DeathMetalMods.de

    Sadly - as you know - it is an Verizon exclusive. For europe this means that we wont even be able to finish the start up process as the frequencies are not supported. I guess it would be the same in Indonesia?
    02-26-2014 04:08 AM
  3. jokoluhur's Avatar
    But i think there's a way to buy without contract since usually verizon phone only lock on the CDMA networks but the GSM was unlock and can be use in other networks...

    You are not alone. I just recently wrote an article for the german techsite www.deathmetalmods.de why Europe needs a Lumia Icon: Warum Europa ein Lumia Icon braucht | DeathMetalMods.de

    Sadly - as you know - it is an Verizon exclusive. For europe this means that we wont even be able to finish the start up process as the frequencies are not supported. I guess it would be the same in Indonesia?
    02-26-2014 04:17 AM
  4. invertme's Avatar
    Did you want someone on this forum to buy one, sell to you and ship it?

    Just seeing if I understand you correctly.

    If that's the case I may be able to help but it won't be cheap.
    02-26-2014 09:03 AM
  5. SpareBot's Avatar
    only lock on the CDMA networks but the GSM was unlock and can be use in other networks...
    Seriously? Could you explain that?
    02-26-2014 12:24 PM
  6. jokoluhur's Avatar
    Hi,


    yes the prices it must be quite high... i just want know how much and if it makes sense to me why not

    Did you want someone on this forum to buy one, sell to you and ship it?

    Just seeing if I understand you correctly.

    If that's the case I may be able to help but it won't be cheap.
    03-02-2014 06:10 AM
  7. jokoluhur's Avatar
    Base on experience, you can use the GSM on verizon with any sim card but the cdma you need to unlock it if you want to use it to..

    currently i'm usiing moto-x by verizon but i alredy unlock the cdma slot too so i can use both cdma/gsm

    Seriously? Could you explain that?
    03-02-2014 06:12 AM
  8. SpareBot's Avatar
    So: what are you saying: I can put a GSM sim in any lumia icon and it will work? No unlock or anything needed? Hard to believe
    03-02-2014 06:51 AM
  9. AV2RY's Avatar
    So: what are you saying: I can put a GSM sim in any lumia icon and it will work? No unlock or anything needed? Hard to believe
    You can use it anywhere. Calling and internet will work 101%. But you MIGHT have problem with txt/mms/LTE. Second day I bought my 928 I went to Russia. Everything worked except I didn't have LTE (its limited over there). Then I came back to the US, using Tmobile SIM. I don't have Lte, sometimes I can't send SMS (get error:1) and since I bought this phone (7months) yesterday for the first time I was able to send mms (it also give me error) but I receive txt/mms always. Soo, what I want to say is I think it just depends on the carriers. Had no problem with SMS in Russia here in the US not always working

    Forgot to mention.. It's unlocked already, so just put sim in and it will work
    03-02-2014 07:35 AM
  10. SpareBot's Avatar
    So the Lumia is a "world phone" as Verizon calls it?

    Because verizon usually not only locks its device to its own network (to keep sprint customers from using their sims) but it usually doesnt even has the hardware to work on gsm frequencies.

    Finally: dont verizon phones usually need a verizon sim at their first boot up to be "registered"
    03-02-2014 08:08 AM
  11. xboxonthego3's Avatar
    From what I know quite a few of Verizon's new LTE phones also have GSM support. The phones are GSM unlocked out of the box. This discussion has been had before about the HTC 8x about a year ago.
    03-02-2014 08:46 AM
  12. AR2186's Avatar
    Verizon Windows phones will work out of the box with GSM networks, so long as the bands support it. T-Mobile tends to have a problem sending text and mms over 4g/3g networks (works over 2g for some reason), but generally I didn't really run into problems with my 928 on AT&T. The one issue I have had is with trying to use Verizon's LTE after setting APN settings in Access Point. Basically, Verizon doesn't have any APN settings with Access Point because the SIM takes care of configuration, so without APN settings to set, it keeps using the AT&T or T-Mobile settings. The only way to get LTE working again is with a full reset if the phone.

    Edit: for full disclosure I have not tried a T-Mobile SIM in my Lumia Icon yet because I don't want to have to reset it to get Verizon LTE back, my experience is based on my Lumia 928 on the Amber/GDR2 rom. The Icon should be the same

    Finally: dont verizon phones usually need a verizon sim at their first boot up to be "registered"
    I haven't had that experience with Windows Phones, only Android Verizon phones (HTC One in particular). I think Windows Phones work more like iPhones in this regard.
    03-02-2014 09:20 AM
  13. SpareBot's Avatar
    Interesting. Maybe I ll try that on my next trip to the states
    03-02-2014 09:38 AM
  14. w4rmk's Avatar
    I'm sure there are several folks here on the forums who would be happy to help purchase a no-contract phone and ship to you. You would be spending in the $600-$650 USD range with tax and shipping.
    03-02-2014 10:43 AM
  15. SpareBot's Avatar
    Yeah, I know but I ll be there this summer anyway. Thanks

    I am still not completly sure what to make of this new gsm freedom too. But it sure sounds promising.
    03-02-2014 01:01 PM
  16. siva bharathi's Avatar
    Icon. Coming to India or not.. Am waiting

    Sent from my RM-825 using Tapatalk
    03-02-2014 02:02 PM
  17. AV2RY's Avatar
    Icon. Coming to India or not.. Am waiting

    Sent from my RM-825 using Tapatalk
    Did you order it? if you didn't NO it's not coming ))
    03-02-2014 07:25 PM
  18. SpareBot's Avatar
    I am following a guy from pocketnow. He tweeted about his Icon Review and said that the AT&T Sim did not work:

    https://twitter.com/pinoyscavenger/s...22819800932352

    https://twitter.com/Captain2Phones/s...23107123724288

    So for that means: Its locked for GSM
    03-06-2014 08:43 AM
  19. falconrap's Avatar
    I am following a guy from pocketnow. He tweeted about his Icon Review and said that the AT&T Sim did not work:

    https://twitter.com/pinoyscavenger/s...22819800932352

    https://twitter.com/Captain2Phones/s...23107123724288

    So for that means: Its locked for GSM
    All Verizon LTE phones at GSM unlocked, by law. VZW made an agreement with the government that requires them to sell their LTE phones unlocked in return for the LTE spectrum they purchased a couple years back. There at already examples of some people on this forum that are using the Icon on other carriers.
    03-06-2014 01:07 PM
  20. xboxonthego3's Avatar
    Look around the forums. There is a few people who have it working with AT&T.
    03-07-2014 08:17 AM
  21. SpareBot's Avatar
    Hmm ...
    03-07-2014 08:48 AM

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