02-28-2014 07:01 AM
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  1. radmanvr's Avatar
    My wife found a big bug on her Icon and ask me to fix it for her. I told her I dont kill spiders so i let it go outside.
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    02-26-2014 02:20 PM
  2. invertme's Avatar
    I have seen a review yesterday that said the phone call quality is not quite good.....is it true?
    I read this too and was expecting awful call quality. It's been nothing but perfect for me. Excellent call quality.
    02-26-2014 02:26 PM
  3. jlzimmerman's Avatar
    What a beautiful device , the bulls , the screen the 1080p the colors etc - perfection ...

    Then I read the reviews , the articles the videos , this forum and what do I see? a device that falls way short of doing what a smart phone should do - I can't get notifications ? wait what?

    I see all kinds of bugs - ugh

    really ticked.
    If you read the defects thread, you will see that I am one of those people mentioning a defect. Yes, my screen has a color hue issue (and getting it replaced today), but with that said this is the best phone I've ever had. I'm talking hardware and software.

    Regarding the defects thread. If you take only the posts from users posting about the problems we've found, you'll have maybe 1/3 of the whole thread.
    Indistinguishable likes this.
    02-26-2014 02:48 PM
  4. DavidinCT's Avatar
    WOW, he just hates Windows Phone. Sad thing I kind of agree with his problems with the apps. We have a lot but, there is LOT we are missing and till we get the marketshare, we wont get the apps...

    That is about my only flaw with Windows Phone...

    I can see how he could be like that if he was a iOS user and uses tons of apps (iOS is just a gloified app launcher in my eyes), so he comes to Windows Phone and more than 1/2 the apps he wanted are not available or coming any time soon, the other 1/2 of the apps are 3rd party Knock offs that are not really great...

    For every 3 highly wanted apps in the marketplace there is about 10 more that Windows Phone does not have.....

    For me...I really wanted the ICON/929 but, the limit of 32gb and no expandable storage killed it for me...
    shaskell724 likes this.
    02-26-2014 03:19 PM
  5. berty6294's Avatar
    You can't talk icon without talking OS. OS is like the bread of a sandwich - if the bread sucks so does the sangwich.
    So you're saying you love turkey but hate wheat. When Nokia said "hey we are releasing a sandwich with turkey on wheat" you got excited. Now somehow you are shocked that you got turkey on wheat? What the hell were you expecting?
    02-26-2014 03:21 PM
  6. ClickClack's Avatar
    That's horrendous tough right ? No you tube app?

    Is there an xm app?

    Knock off apps ? Yeesh ... I mean WP OS comes off as worse than blackberry is these days .

    No google now talk. ?

    Limited phone - limiting my options .. Not good @ all .

    I wanted to love this phone , hardware is awesome .
    02-26-2014 03:25 PM
  7. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    So many trolls in the Icon subsection...
    Editguy1900, fredd and Tjarren like this.
    02-26-2014 03:35 PM
  8. jpling's Avatar
    No you tube app?? Metrotube looks and works better than you tube on my nexus 7 and G2. I really have to wonder about some posts. Really. I've been using android since the G1 days. Rmember doughnut? No? Honestly. Have you tries some of the ((knock off)) apps? They look and run better than ANY first party app on any android device I own. Let me name a few. G1. Droid 1. Droid 2. Droidx. Bionic. Sgs3. Note 2. Sgs4. Note3. Lgg2. Xoom, Asus infinity, note 10.1 Nexus 7 2012,nexus 7 2013. Note 10.1 2014 edition. And the experience I get from the ICON is second to NONE. Imo. With the new updates for pocket file manager and UCbrowser beta mu ICON is now my daily driver. I find most hard core android users that talk about wp8 are the ones that haven't used it or pirate software. Nit that I'm saying anyone here does that. I had a feeling about android back in the day I had a touch pro 2 and look at it now! Its amazing!! I have that same feeling about wp8 /8.1 . Just wait and see.
    02-26-2014 03:44 PM
  9. LumiaIcon's Avatar
    What a beautiful device , the bulls , the screen the 1080p the colors etc - perfection ...

    Then I read the reviews , the articles the videos , this forum and what do I see? a device that falls way short of doing what a smart phone should do - I can't get notifications ? wait what?

    I see all kinds of bugs - ugh

    really ticked.
    I made the switch from nothing but flagship Androids year after year to the Icon. I have no bugs that I can see other than the fact that they need a quick software update to make the notifications a bit louder.

    I'm very happy with it and almost every review I have watched has focused the negative aspects of the phone on the Windows platform not the phone. The exception is that they all seem to be "disappointed" that the phone is not classic Nokia styling and that it is not a bright yellow phone, which frankly, I would be embarrassed to wip out at a business meeting anyway. Love the phone. Look THROUGH the reviews and you'll find its WP that they don't like.
    02-26-2014 04:23 PM
  10. Kage Maru's Avatar
    People on this forum above are saying phone is buggy .

    You can't talk icon without talking OS. OS is like the bread of a sandwich - if the bread sucks so does the sangwich.
    So is the problem no notifications or it's buggy? You seem to be jumping around.

    I have seen a review yesterday that said the phone call quality is not quite good.....is it true?
    Most of the reviews I've seen/read (like PocketNow) have said the phone has excellent call quality. Judging by my experience so far, it's the best sounding smart phone I've used yet.

    That's horrendous tough right ? No you tube app?

    Is there an xm app?

    Knock off apps ? Yeesh ... I mean WP OS comes off as worse than blackberry is these days .

    No google now talk. ?

    Limited phone - limiting my options .. Not good @ all .

    I wanted to love this phone , hardware is awesome .
    So now it's an apps issue? Man you really can't get your complaints straight, can you?

    So many trolls in the Icon subsection...
    Jealousy makes people crazy sometimes.
    Indistinguishable likes this.
    02-26-2014 05:03 PM
  11. ret18057's Avatar
    iPhones don't have any indicators either.

    Wah, I have to press a button to see notifications. Cry me a river!
    A river? Sorry Hondo, it is a big deal. Maybe not to you, but it is a legitimate complaint about the device. Don't be a fanboy, just cause it ain't nothing to you don't mean it ain't nothing.
    shaskell724 likes this.
    02-26-2014 05:06 PM
  12. DustinRyan's Avatar
    As a former iOS user for many years, I really have no problems with notifications. Although, the apps I get notifications most from, have live tiles, so it's really plain as day to see when I have a notification. Action Center will be great when it comes out in 8.1, but I'm really not minding the lack of a notification center at the moment. I suppose not everyone creates live tiles for apps that give them notifications?

    I find a lot of Windows Phone's OS to be much quicker to get to what I need compared to iOS. But I guess not everyone likes change.

    Personally, I think Microsoft sees that operating systems don't have to all look a very specific way, in order to be good. There's many fronts on which Windows Phone really takes a very innovative approach to how we use our phones. Live Tiles are the most obvious result of that, but there are more. I guess people just have to be open-minded to the fact that the way we have done things for so long may not be the best, just because we all used those systems in the past, doesn't mean we should in the future.

    At one point, we did believe the Sun revolved around the Earth. It just takes a different perspective to see the potential in change of mindset. Microsoft sees that. Whether or not the hive mind is ready for it, varies.
    Not saying Windows Phone is perfect by any means, but I like that Microsoft has taken a different approach than Android or iOS, and is now making up for what they have not included, previously. Action Center is coming. Cortana is coming. Many great features that you love on iOS and Android are coming. And to say Microsoft isn't on to something great would be a lie. Look at how Android and iOS have evolved in their appearance. Flatter, thinner, larger fonts, vibrant design, and more. The hive mind might hate on Windows Phone, but the competition is taking notes.

    Sorry for the long-winded post!
    Editguy1900 likes this.
    02-26-2014 06:54 PM
  13. savagelizards's Avatar
    What are your specific concerns beyond can't get notifications? All windows phones get notifications and show them through live tiles and also on the lock screen. If you don't pin an app/put it on the lock screen that you need notifications for then no you won't see them until you open the app.
    I came to the Icon/WP from android, and for me the live tiles can be okay for notifications - but only if you are already on the home screen. If you are doing anything else - making a call, composing an email, using an app, etc., you cannot see the live tiles and therefore you don't know if the chime was because your phone started/stopped charging, you have a new move in WWF, or you have to leave NOW for that client meeting.

    I am finding it stressful because I just don't know, and so I have to exit out of whatever I am doing and click back to the home screen and scan all the tiles until I figure out what made the phone chime. It's exactly the opposite of what I was hoping for. If you have been on WP of some flavor for years you may never have had notifications and so don't miss them, but coming from android there's a definite notification gap.

    Yes, WP 8.1 should solve it, but that's not until summer. It's valid to feel something is missing. Suppose you broke your leg and someone said "big deal - your cast will be off this summer. What's your problem?" Well, that's true enough, but right now you have a broken leg and it kinda sucks. It's like that.
    02-26-2014 06:57 PM
  14. madbiologist's Avatar
    I came to the Icon/WP from android, and for me the live tiles can be okay for notifications - but only if you are already on the home screen. If you are doing anything else - making a call, composing an email, using an app, etc., you cannot see the live tiles and therefore you don't know if the chime was because your phone started/stopped charging, you have a new move in WWF, or you have to leave NOW for that client meeting
    .
    that's a fair and well thought out answer and actually speaks to your use case. Thanks for the perspective as its been a couple of years since I used android. And yes, if notification aggregation that doesn't interrupt app use, buying a windows phone now is not the right buy. Waiting for 8.1 or buying an android/iPhone are the other options in that case.

    It's all about the priorities of the user. I was responding to blanket statements about not getting notifications which was flat out wrong on it's face. And I say all that knowing it will probably be nice to have the notification drawer in 8.1, as long as they design it well.
    02-26-2014 08:18 PM
  15. savagelizards's Avatar
    that's a fair and well thought out answer and actually speaks to your use case. Thanks for the perspective as its been a couple of years since I used android. And yes, if notification aggregation that doesn't interrupt app use, buying a windows phone now is not the right buy. Waiting for 8.1 or buying an android/iPhone are the other options in that case.

    It's all about the priorities of the user. I was responding to blanket statements about not getting notifications which was flat out wrong on it's face. And I say all that knowing it will probably be nice to have the notification drawer in 8.1, as long as they design it well.
    Thanks for taking the time to see where I was coming from. BTW, I am not regretting my choice of WP, but I will say that I notice the absence of the feature. Microsoft has been in the phone business for longer than Apple or Google, and it is surprising that they haven't moved a little faster to get to feature parity.

    Anyway, my old phone was getting long in the tooth and I had been off contract for several months waiting for a flagship WP to come to Verizon. It wasn't worth it for me to wait for 8.1 (and/or until Nokia solves the technical issue with glance), since Icon will probably be the only WP that Verizon will get all year and I would only be prolonging the inevitable. I will say that I totally underestimated how I would react to the lack of notifications. The combination of seemingly random chimes and the lack of separate volume controls (resulting in my volume typically cranked to 30/30) is downright frustrating at times.

    All I can say is when WP 8.1 hits, you longtime WP users are going to LOVE android-style notifications!
    02-26-2014 10:36 PM
  16. Garrymp's Avatar
    Call quality is as good as I've ever had on a cell phone.
    I couldn't agree more with on the call quality. I was blown away by how loud and clear the ear speaker is. I don't ever use full volume. The speaker phone is also very loud. In my experience I have no clue what they are talking about when they say the call quality is bad. Are they in a cave....on a mountain??
    02-26-2014 10:50 PM
  17. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    Too each is there own.
    What is grammar?
    02-27-2014 12:31 AM
  18. Giddora's Avatar
    That's horrendous tough right ? No you tube app?

    Is there an xm app?

    Knock off apps ? Yeesh ... I mean WP OS comes off as worse than blackberry is these days .

    No google now talk. ?

    Limited phone - limiting my options .. Not good @ all .

    I wanted to love this phone , hardware is awesome .
    Listen... Why use the first-party app if there's a third-party app that has more features and a better UI than the first-party app on any other platform? The software is awesome which is why WP has the highest customer satisfaction ratings.
    02-27-2014 12:32 AM
  19. Truman82's Avatar
    What is grammar?
    Overestimated ;-)

    Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk
    02-27-2014 01:04 AM
  20. LumiaIcon's Avatar
    A river? Sorry Hondo, it is a big deal. Maybe not to you, but it is a legitimate complaint about the device. Don't be a fanboy, just cause it ain't nothing to you don't mean it ain't nothing.
    I spent years with Android. I assume you mean that there is not a notification drop down? WP has notifications... It tells you when you have a new email. It shows you what the email says... How much more notification do you need? Personally I spent more time trying to clear the "notifications" on Android. How is it not a notification if you get an email, it makes a noise, it puts a #1 on the tile and gives you the text of the email? What am I missing? Yes, you don't have to constantly drop down a slide and "clean" it constantly, but it still notifies you.
    02-27-2014 01:27 AM
  21. ret18057's Avatar
    I spent years with Android. I assume you mean that there is not a notification drop down? WP has notifications... It tells you when you have a new email. It shows you what the email says... How much more notification do you need? Personally I spent more time trying to clear the "notifications" on Android. How is it not a notification if you get an email, it makes a noise, it puts a #1 on the tile and gives you the text of the email? What am I missing? Yes, you don't have to constantly drop down a slide and "clean" it constantly, but it still notifies you.
    No, my issue is without an LED or Glance, unless I glue the phone to my hand I won't know if I miss a call or text until I pick up and power on. A deal breaker? Maybe, maybe not, but a simple feature that amazingly was left off this phone. I don't live with my phone, so it's nice to be able to walk by it on the desk and see SOME kind of indication that there is something there without picking it up and powering it on...probably why Glance was created in the first place. I'd be happy with the dumb Windows button pulsing, something, anything...
    02-27-2014 02:31 AM
  22. primortal's Avatar
    What is grammar?
    At least someone caught it :D
    02-27-2014 06:55 AM
  23. radmanvr's Avatar
    I was always under the impression that live tiles were notifications but people actually wanted a notification center.
    02-27-2014 07:46 AM
  24. vormison's Avatar
    They all have their drawbacks. I recently purchased an Android and honestly can't stand that I can't see whether I got an email, text, FB notification, etc. I find myself CONSTANTLY waking the phone up to see what notification I did get. The WP method of waking the phone up to display your notification is really productive. I hear there are apps that can accomplish this on the Android side but it's aggravating and I haven't found one that works appropriately.

    I don't really think you need a flashing light when it will show you your exact text when it's received. Also, not sure it's really worth debating whether it's easier to pull down from the top to see a notification or just look at a live tile.

    Add to that the annoyance of not knowing who texted you or what came through when you're playing a game on Android. It's amazing to see how much all of these OS' lack after all of these years.
    mpt15 likes this.
    02-27-2014 07:58 AM
  25. fredd's Avatar
    enough with the troll...
    Yea this click clack fellow is in a few of the forums bashing the phone. But he did spend 25 minutes with it first before he bashed it. lol
    berty6294 likes this.
    02-27-2014 08:53 AM
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