03-13-2014 02:08 AM
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  1. fatrat727's Avatar
    So this camera is suppose to be an upgrade from my 928 camera correct? Welllllllllll when I take indoor shots the camera does no better than my 928 it just sucks. Do I have to adjust settings for indoor photos? Both the Icon and 928 take great outdoor pics no problem. Indoor looks like crap. I would love to sale this phone based on camera features but if my rep's Note 3 can take great indoor photos compared to mine then 20mp camera won't mean anything to the customer.
    02-26-2014 04:16 PM
  2. Microsoftjunkie's Avatar
    I'm guessing its either inside light (incandescent/flourescent) along wih dim lighting. If any of those, you should use longer exposure time without flash.
    02-26-2014 04:30 PM
  3. Glenmore Vinoya's Avatar
    With any photographic equipment, it's only as good as the amount of light you give it to. Maybe compare taking pictures of the same thing with the same lighting situation on both the Note 3 and the Icon?
    02-26-2014 04:33 PM
  4. fatrat727's Avatar
    I'll try the exposure settings and yes both phones take same pictures in same enviroment.
    02-26-2014 04:35 PM
  5. Glenmore Vinoya's Avatar
    Ensure when taking the pictures and comparing it that they are both on Auto settings. That would probably determine which is better between the two devices when it comes to Automatic settings. But then again, Nokia Camera has a more advance settings that will cater to those inclined to learn photography well compared to stock camera apps on Android.
    02-26-2014 04:38 PM
  6. sethman916's Avatar
    Something doesnt line up. I have gotten nothing but fantastic indoor photos with my Icon.
    RichHowerton likes this.
    02-26-2014 04:42 PM
  7. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    Something doesnt line up. I have gotten nothing but fantastic indoor photos with my Icon.
    I'm with you here. My indoor photos look great.
    RichHowerton likes this.
    02-26-2014 04:43 PM
  8. Kage Maru's Avatar
    Only thing I noticed is my low light shots are grainy when compared to similar 928 shots, but only when I don't use a flash. If I use the flash, the Icon easily exceeds my 928. Honestly not always a fan of flash and the 928 took amazing photos at night without a flash. Hopefully the Icon will be just as good with some firmware updates. The 1520 also had issues with the camera but mostly with video capturing IIRC. Not sure if that's been fixed, but that too sounded like an issue that could be corrected with an update.
    02-26-2014 04:50 PM
  9. falconrap's Avatar
    Remember that the Icon has a smaller aperture than the 928 (f2.4 vs f2.0). So the 928 takes in more light per second than the Icon. The Icon has the more capable sensor, though.
    Microsoftjunkie likes this.
    02-26-2014 05:13 PM
  10. 01mggt's Avatar
    My indoor shots are night and day better than my 928. Almost always had to manually change the white balance to avoid the orange look and they were still fuzzy. This camera is mind blowing honestly
    02-26-2014 08:06 PM
  11. Kage Maru's Avatar
    Remember that the Icon has a smaller aperture than the 928 (f2.4 vs f2.0). So the 928 takes in more light per second than the Icon. The Icon has the more capable sensor, though.
    Thanks, I forget that from time to time.
    02-26-2014 10:29 PM
  12. fatrat727's Avatar
    Hmmm still no luck. maybe its the lighting in my store :( its so grainy
    02-27-2014 02:14 PM
  13. mikeyyyownz's Avatar
    My pictures rock! Hard to adjust the White Balance when I first got the phone, but after no issues.
    02-27-2014 02:55 PM
  14. BfnC's Avatar
    My indoor shots have been spectacular, exceeding my expectations so far - no comparison to my former Lumia 810, wife's former GSIII or in-law iPhone 5s
    02-27-2014 03:06 PM
  15. Moiz Mian's Avatar
    Remember that the Icon has a smaller aperture than the 928 (f2.4 vs f2.0). So the 928 takes in more light per second than the Icon. The Icon has the more capable sensor, though.
    This is wrong. The Icon's larger sensor makes up for more than the reduced aperture size. Think about it this way. The aperture is the percent of the senor that is blocked. I dont know the exact calculation, but for example, say f2.0 = 5% of the 1/3 sensor in the 928 is blocked. In the Icon, say f2.4=10% of the 1/2.5 sensor is blocked. The Icon is still letting in more light.
    02-28-2014 01:17 PM
  16. microhaxo#WP's Avatar
    This is wrong. The Icon's larger sensor makes up for more than the reduced aperture size. Think about it this way. The aperture is the percent of the senor that is blocked. I dont know the exact calculation, but for example, say f2.0 = 5% of the 1/3 sensor in the 928 is blocked. In the Icon, say f2.4=10% of the 1/2.5 sensor is blocked. The Icon is still letting in more light.
    Photos obviously show otherwise.
    928 Flash - pitch black - Imgur
    thedogscar likes this.
    02-28-2014 01:56 PM
  17. cbreze's Avatar
    I find my indoor shots don't look great either depending on lighting. I've been using the manual tweaks tho and find quite alot of improvement. Still not good like my canon but getting better. Point and shoot is fine for outdoor light but indoor does require adjustments to ISO etc. Still playing with mine,, but that's just my .02
    02-28-2014 02:12 PM
  18. Joel S79's Avatar
    This is wrong. The Icon's larger sensor makes up for more than the reduced aperture size. Think about it this way. The aperture is the percent of the senor that is blocked. I dont know the exact calculation, but for example, say f2.0 = 5% of the 1/3 sensor in the 928 is blocked. In the Icon, say f2.4=10% of the 1/2.5 sensor is blocked. The Icon is still letting in more light.
    Aperture on a camera is the ratio of the lens opening compared to the focal length. If the focal length of both phones is equal (which they are), the lower number will have a larger opening, meaning it will let in more light.

    The larger sensor just means the sensor can capture more detail with the light provided to it. The opening in the icon is physically smaller, so it's letting in less light.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    02-28-2014 02:13 PM
  19. Moiz Mian's Avatar
    Aperture on a camera is the ratio of the lens opening compared to the focal length. If the focal length of both phones is equal (which they are), the lower number will have a larger opening, meaning it will let in more light.

    The larger sensor just means the sensor can capture more detail with the light provided to it. The opening in the icon is physically smaller, so it's letting in less light.
    So does that mean the 1020 also has a smaller opening than the 928? It definitely looks bigger
    03-01-2014 03:00 AM
  20. invertme's Avatar
    Yeah in lower light my pictures are fairly poor. With any natural light they look awesome though. Maybe I need to make a few changes with how I take them.
    03-01-2014 06:55 AM
  21. Muessig's Avatar
    Click my signature to be taken to a topic that might help you out here.
    03-01-2014 07:31 AM
  22. TnA206's Avatar
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    03-02-2014 12:38 AM
  23. Joel S79's Avatar
    So does that mean the 1020 also has a smaller opening than the 928? It definitely looks bigger
    I'm over-simplifying here. In terms of the amount of light it's letting in, yes.
    03-03-2014 10:43 AM
  24. gernerttl's Avatar
    I'm with you here. My indoor photos look great.
    Same here. Indoor pics come out great.
    03-13-2014 01:48 AM
  25. gernerttl's Avatar
    Only thing I noticed is my low light shots are grainy when compared to similar 928 shots, but only when I don't use a flash. If I use the flash, the Icon easily exceeds my 928. Honestly not always a fan of flash and the 928 took amazing photos at night without a flash. Hopefully the Icon will be just as good with some firmware updates. The 1520 also had issues with the camera but mostly with video capturing IIRC. Not sure if that's been fixed, but that too sounded like an issue that could be corrected with an update.
    That graininess is due to a high ISO setting. If you leave ISO on auto it will choose the lowest setting needed for proper exposure without a flash and to minimize blurring from camera shake. Most likely the camera chose a setting of 800 or higher. The camera goes up to 6400. The higher the ISO the grainier the photo.
    03-13-2014 01:54 AM
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