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  1. falconrap's Avatar
    Your best bet, if you constantly use the phone for browsing and calls, is to have a Qi charger or two handy and just place it down there when you get a chance to charge it some. Won't take much to get you through the day.
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    03-03-2014 05:13 AM
  2. boovish's Avatar
    Turn off Tap + Send
    03-03-2014 05:43 AM
  3. savagelizards's Avatar
    By way of measurement... At 6:55 am I have been up just over an hour. I checked my email, surfed the web, made an appointment. Set my phone down for about fifteen minutes. 85% battery left. Estimate is 10 hours 10 minutes remaining.

    I think that's a pretty realistic estimate of what the battery life will be like. When I get to the office this baby is going right into the charging stand so it will be juiced up when I need it.

    its workable. You just need to have a strategy. But no way its going twelve hours with 80% left. I just don't think that's a realistic result for most folks.
    03-03-2014 06:01 AM
  4. Kage Maru's Avatar
    A suggestion to those talking about charging. It's generally not good for your phone to be charged all the time. It would require some babysitting of the phone but a good practice is to not let it get below 25-30% and not let it charge to more than 95%. This will retain the life of the battery better than just sitting it on a charger, letting the battery cook while you're not using it.
    03-03-2014 06:43 AM
  5. Vindies37's Avatar
    Remove the battery monitor...those things suck battery life
    03-03-2014 07:00 AM
  6. invertme's Avatar
    there are so many threads about saving battery...search them!

    and they don't help
    03-03-2014 07:05 AM
  7. savagelizards's Avatar
    A suggestion to those talking about charging. It's generally not good for your phone to be charged all the time. It would require some babysitting of the phone but a good practice is to not let it get below 25-30% and not let it charge to more than 95%. This will retain the life of the battery better than just sitting it on a charger, letting the battery cook while you're not using it.
    Kage, I don't necessarily disagree with you. You're observation is correct.

    Nonetheless, Nokia seems to have made that decision for us by opting for QI charging in place of a larger battery. If this battery was at least 3300 mAh, like the 1520, the battery life would be almost 50% better. The phone could stand a 15-16 hour day and simply charge overnight. However, the QI charger is not simply a nicety on this phone. For me, and for some others, it is a necessity. Which means it is on and off the charger getting 5% here, 15% there throughout the day.

    I have to believe that Nokia considered this and there's some sort of battery management taking place here. QI charging is a pretty well established technology at this point. I did a quick web search and couldn't find anything about QI charging and reduced battery life. I may be making the mistake of assuming without the data to know otherwise, but it would seem if this practice was materially reducing battery life manufacturers like Nokia and Samsung be faced with warranty claims and wouldn't continue to support it.
    03-03-2014 07:09 AM
  8. jt09xlt's Avatar
    By way of measurement... At 6:55 am I have been up just over an hour. I checked my email, surfed the web, made an appointment. Set my phone down for about fifteen minutes. 85% battery left. Estimate is 10 hours 10 minutes remaining.

    I think that's a pretty realistic estimate of what the battery life will be like. When I get to the office this baby is going right into the charging stand so it will be juiced up when I need it.

    its workable. You just need to have a strategy. But no way its going twelve hours with 80% left. I just don't think that's a realistic result for most folks.
    I will take a screenshot next time on the weekend for you. At work, where I use the phone even more, I can get through a 12 hour shift and usually have 60-65% left sometimes in the 70% range. You guys might have bad batteries I don't know. The battery for me is on point if not better than my 928 when I had it.
    03-03-2014 08:10 AM
  9. oliverr871's Avatar
    Naturally it will take a couple of full charging cycles to have the battery reach its full potential. The battery has been sitting at a certain amount while in storage and has settled.
    03-03-2014 09:24 AM
  10. Kage Maru's Avatar
    and they don't help
    Yes they do.

    Kage, I don't necessarily disagree with you. You're observation is correct.

    Nonetheless, Nokia seems to have made that decision for us by opting for QI charging in place of a larger battery. If this battery was at least 3300 mAh, like the 1520, the battery life would be almost 50% better. The phone could stand a 15-16 hour day and simply charge overnight. However, the QI charger is not simply a nicety on this phone. For me, and for some others, it is a necessity. Which means it is on and off the charger getting 5% here, 15% there throughout the day.

    I have to believe that Nokia considered this and there's some sort of battery management taking place here. QI charging is a pretty well established technology at this point. I did a quick web search and couldn't find anything about QI charging and reduced battery life. I may be making the mistake of assuming without the data to know otherwise, but it would seem if this practice was materially reducing battery life manufacturers like Nokia and Samsung be faced with warranty claims and wouldn't continue to support it.
    I don't think the Qi charging is meant to replace a larger battery. Maybe I'm wrong, but it's more likely that Nokia ran into space issues and couldn't fit a bigger battery in the phone or they were just cutting costs.

    Either way, charging it 5% here, 30% there, and so on will reduce the overall battery life of your phone over time. Nokia and Samsung are aware of battery life deterioration but it generally happens in such a subtle way that most users don't easily recognize it. I know for a fact every one of my phones held less of a charge near the end of my 2 year plan than they did in the beginning. Exercising good battery charging habits can extend the life of the battery, regardless of how it's charged.

    Edit:

    Maybe I'm a bit out of date on batteries. What I read was only a few months ago, but this thread says that good charging patterns are not necessary:

    http://forums.windowscentral.com/nok...questions.html
    Last edited by Kage Maru; 03-03-2014 at 10:16 AM.
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    03-03-2014 09:51 AM
  11. flackberry's Avatar
    I'm guessing that we will see a Nokia specific update soon that will have some fixes/enhancements to address some of these concerns. I think the battery life on my icon is really good. I had a 928 and the battery life on that wasn't all that great until Nokia released updates.
    03-03-2014 10:40 AM
  12. Kage Maru's Avatar
    Even without any updates, I still think my Icon has a much better battery life than my 928. I would usually let my 928 charge over night and have to charge it again once I'm ready to leave work at 6pm. However now with the Icon, I generally just charge it once during work and it lasts until the next work day. Even on the weekends it's fine. Last Saturday I headed out around 11 to look for a new place to live. I had my phone synced to the radio using blutooth, was using the GPS all day for directions, using the internet to look up information on the places I was visiting, texting, calls, and so on and didn't need to charge it until 9 that night.
    03-03-2014 03:08 PM
  13. savagelizards's Avatar
    I will take a screenshot next time on the weekend for you. At work, where I use the phone even more, I can get through a 12 hour shift and usually have 60-65% left sometimes in the 70% range. You guys might have bad batteries I don't know. The battery for me is on point if not better than my 928 when I had it.
    Here is my screenshot:

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    I took the phone off my charging stand at lunchtime, as I headed out the door. I was in meetings most of the afternoon (limited usage), returned a few calls at the end of the workday, listened to an audiobook in the way home and just spent about 45 minutes surfing the web. This is pretty consistent with the battery life I have gotten, which is better since I turned off tap+send and switched the networks to CDMA + LTE a couple of days after I got it.
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    03-03-2014 06:54 PM
  14. LumiaIcon's Avatar
    new phone?
    it is normal when the new phone get low battery
    the windowsphone OS need to do something with your phone and it use more battery
    just use it normally and it will be better after 1 or 2 weeks

    better do this for new phone ; charge it when it said critical low (10%) up to 100%
    do that again and again for 4-5 times and your battery will become better
    after that you can charge your battery whenever you want
    My Icon has gained some stamina for sure. I think battery life is great. My HTC One was dead by 5pm and I usually get to bed with about 20% left on the Icon after what I consider to be pretty heavy "normal" use for a phone.
    03-03-2014 08:09 PM
  15. falconrap's Avatar
    Just for reference, here's the kind of typical battery life I get with my 822 (whose battery isn't all that high in capacity either). This includes a good bit of frequent checking of messages, kids playing games on the phone for a while, about a half hour's worth of browsing, checking a news app off and on (plus other assorted app uses), and about 40 minutes straight of sitting and reading. I suspect you either have a bad battery, or you have a single background process that is constantly working your data connection and causing the large drain. I remember one app in particular doing something similar to me, and I removed the app, and fixed the large drain (typically about 12-15% per hour at times when it's background service got stuck).

    My advice is to turn off ALL your background tasks in Settings. Block them all. Reboot your phone. Then, see if the drain stays away for a day. If so, then you know it is an app, and can find it by letting one have it's background service back at a time. Give it half a day for each app to make sure it's not getting stuck after a while and causing the drain. Clearly, if the drain does not go away, then the battery is either dead, or the battery monitor needs to be reset, which will require letting the battery go until the phone turns off, then recharging fully, without interrupting it. If that doesn't work, take the phone back and ask for a replacement.
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    03-03-2014 08:13 PM
  16. falconrap's Avatar
    By the way, I never turn GPS off, and I have Glance turned on (though not double-tap to wake). I found the only WP8 service that really caused a major drain was NFC, but I haven't had that thing turned on since Portico hit my phone. Just don't have a use for NFC.
    03-03-2014 08:19 PM
  17. reidbp's Avatar
    Haven't charged since this morning and have 68% battery left after a pretty standard days use. My GS3 would be near dead by now, granted I have less battery-sucking apps on this phone than I did on the GS3.
    03-03-2014 08:21 PM
  18. mtalinm's Avatar
    holy cow, things are getting better. left home at 7:30am and did mostly light-usage today but probably an hour of hotspot. at 10pm it's at 45%!!! I'm stunned.

    have a wireless charger at work but did not use it today. maybe things will be fine. I sure don't want to return this beauty.
    03-03-2014 08:57 PM
  19. Starrbuck's Avatar
    Mine goes down at less than 3% per hour. Loving the battery life, especially compared to my iPhone 5.
    03-03-2014 09:45 PM
  20. jt09xlt's Avatar
    Here are some screenshots after a day at work, one of my 12 hour days. This is a handful of phone calls, roughly 40-50 texts. 5-6 internet searches and 3-4 downloads of videos from OneDrive to show coworkers. I did not run on wifi at work at I cannot due to network security settings. Bluetooth, GPS are both on. Screen set to auto. I would maybe suggest slowly removing apps one by one to see if there is something draining in the background you are unaware of.wp_ss_20140303_0001.pngwp_ss_20140303_0007.jpgwp_ss_20140303_0005.jpgwp_ss_20140303_0006.jpgwp_ss_20140303_0004.jpgwp_ss_20140303_0003.jpg
    03-04-2014 09:03 AM
  21. flackberry's Avatar
    Very cool. What battery app is that?
    03-04-2014 10:43 AM
  22. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    Very cool. What battery app is that?
    Battery Performance | Windows Phone Apps+Games Store (United States)

    I don't really use it because my battery life is great and I'm always pretty confident in it. It'd just be another thing running in the background and consuming battery. But it's great for figuring out how your phone is performing throughout the day if you're not sure.
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    03-04-2014 10:51 AM
  23. NoogMan9605's Avatar
    I used the tips on my ICON from the wpcentral battery saving post (the link posted above) and I gained a ton of battery time. I did turn of NFC, but left bluetooth on for the car. I wish I'd have seen that post when I had my 928. Anyway, my Icon is doing MUCH better with the new settings. I did also turn off the "notifiy me when new networks are found" and "automatically connect to hot spots". I'm sure constant searching for wifi drains it quickly. I have my wifi networks set for the office and at home and it works fine. If I'm in a restaurant or other place, I'll "look" for wifi if I need it.

    On my 928, I only disabled a bunch of background tasks, not all the extra items in the wpcentral post. Disabling background tasks apparently doesn't do much.

    Btw......mine has jumped WAY up:

    Remaining battery life: 71%
    Estimated time remaining:20 hours
    TIME SINCE LAST CHARGE: 16 HOURS
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    03-04-2014 12:28 PM
  24. cbreze's Avatar
    but it's more likely that Nokia ran into space issues and couldn't fit a bigger battery in the phone or they were just cutting costs.
    With the creaky back cover that has some give to it, it would seem that there is some extra space in there.
    Compared to my former HTC ONE this battery rocks. Getting thru the day is where it's at for me. Beyond that isn't necessary since I charge nightly. The icon does that and with my pretty heavy usage.
    03-04-2014 12:57 PM
  25. deadwrong03's Avatar
    I used the tips on my ICON from the wpcentral battery saving post (the link posted above) and I gained a ton of battery time. I did turn of NFC, but left bluetooth on for the car. I wish I'd have seen that post when I had my 928. Anyway, my Icon is doing MUCH better with the new settings. I did also turn off the "notifiy me when new networks are found" and "automatically connect to hot spots". I'm sure constant searching for wifi drains it quickly. I have my wifi networks set for the office and at home and it works fine. If I'm in a restaurant or other place, I'll "look" for wifi if I need it.

    On my 928, I only disabled a bunch of background tasks, not all the extra items in the wpcentral post. Disabling background tasks apparently doesn't do much.

    Btw......mine has jumped WAY up:

    Remaining battery life: 71%
    Estimated time remaining:20 hours
    TIME SINCE LAST CHARGE: 16 HOURS





    turning off the text message back up and app backup helps as well.u can always manually back up apps








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    03-04-2014 03:35 PM
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