05-18-2014 09:17 PM
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  1. chezm's Avatar
    I was just going to say that too. I currently have the Lumia 822 and I had to get it replaced cause it broke. So while I was waiting for my new 822 to come in I had to use the iPhone 4S in the meantime. And when I switched to the new 822 I noticed that everyone who had an iPhone couldn't send me a text anymore because it was sending it to me as an iMessage still. I tried to remove my phone number from my Apple ID, unregister the iPhone and reset my password. but none of that seems to work.
    Are you still having the issue? How long ago was this?

    You would think Apple would set a TTL on the cache of iMessage to avoid this sort of scenario...unless they enjoy making it a pain for the users who want to leave.
    05-09-2014 12:38 PM
  2. speedfreak1187's Avatar
    I had the same imessage issue. Call apple care and they will resolve it
    Deceptiion likes this.
    05-09-2014 04:48 PM
  3. explosive0's Avatar
    Easiest way to solve this is to change you Apple ID password.
    bgl321 likes this.
    05-10-2014 09:14 AM
  4. chezm's Avatar
    Easiest way to solve this is to change you Apple ID password.
    I've done this multiple times and it hasn't helped
    05-10-2014 04:54 PM
  5. jexner325's Avatar
    I don't think you are alone in looking at the switch to the Icon. I currently have a 5S and while I like it, I am a little jaded on iOS7 and am tired of "hoping" that Apple comes out with a bigger screen with better improvements to iOS. Your concerns are legit; I too have tried Android devices and have found the OS to be a confusing mess and the WP appears to be the best of both worlds. My biggest concern, along with iMessage, is the integration with my Macbook. I enjoy transferring my music and movies that I have bought through iTunes and am concerned they won't play nice. My other hesitation; I am fully engrained in the Apple ecosystem and by having one device that doesn't fit in that ecosystem, it can make things a bit more difficult.

    I actually think it may be easier to switch out everything else first; Macbook for a PC, iPad for a Surface and then eventually the Icon/WP because then the ecosystem will be easier to manage. Maybe someone on the forum has some suggestions on this? I also have an Xbox One and wonder if having a WP improves that experience or if it matters?

    I used to be a die hard windows guy and switched to the iPhone which started the switch to the Apple ecosystem. With all of the changes to Apple I am losing a bit of my desire to stay in the ecosystem.
    05-11-2014 11:28 AM
  6. chezm's Avatar
    You have a good reason to consider the ecosystem, esp if you use icloud at all (everyone who is part of it usually does). There are options to do everything on windows, but it will take some adjusting (esp if you swap everything).

    My setup: Surface pro 2, Lumia 1020, windows 7 desktop

    For work I have a Mac book Pro and just don't care for the OS, I just Remote to my windows PC. It runs excellent on process mgmt, never lags...but the OSx is not something I personally enjoy.

    iOS is an excellent stable OS much like its parent, but the UI and system are a bore for me. I started with a 3G, greatest thing at its time..to 5S which was cool...but no, sorry still too the same for me...so I'm back on WP8.

    I've got an Xbox one as well, use the Xbox one smartglass app...and if upload needed OneDrive. It all works well, but still different from osX.

    IPhone 6 will have a bigger screen, if that will satisfy theb id say to wait for the reveal before making a decision because the leaks point to a S3 size? My 2 cents.

    Me? I'm very satisfied with Windows devices, there's room for work but I believe they may be finally on the right track...however only time will tell :)
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    05-11-2014 07:37 PM
  7. Deceptiion's Avatar
    Are you still having the issue? How long ago was this?

    You would think Apple would set a TTL on the cache of iMessage to avoid this sort of scenario...unless they enjoy making it a pain for the users who want to leave.
    Yeah I am still having the issue, and i switched back from the iPhone to the 822 in the beginning of April.

    I had the same imessage issue. Call apple care and they will resolve it
    Ok I will try that later to see if that works thanks!
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    Easiest way to solve this is to change you Apple ID password.
    I tried that and I'm still having issues.
    05-12-2014 09:01 AM
  8. chezm's Avatar
    Yeah I am still having the issue, and i switched back from the iPhone to the 822 in the beginning of April.
    I think i resolved my issue, logged into my work Mac Pro with my Apple ID and changed my target to be my email for iMessage...then added a second email, and then used that as my target for iMessage. My friends are reporting that either SMS (green on iPhone) is automatic (without attempting iMessage) or it will show delivered as iMessage (blue) but it reaches my phone now too (i guess it is delivered via imessage since its going to my email now). So if Apple Care isn't helpful i'd suggest finding a friends Apple device and trying this method to change the target settings.
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    05-12-2014 03:43 PM
  9. SEAL62505's Avatar
    Also looking to try out WP (currently have 5S)
    What are the options for the equivalent of Apple's find my friends? (Allows someone to look to see where you are without actively needing to send them your location)
    Also, I am assuming you can still get your gmail delivered to the phone? (I know there aren't going to be dedicated Google apps)

    Thanks!
    05-14-2014 10:57 AM
  10. MA83's Avatar
    Also looking to try out WP (currently have 5S)
    What are the options for the equivalent of Apple's find my friends? (Allows someone to look to see where you are without actively needing to send them your location)
    Also, I am assuming you can still get your gmail delivered to the phone? (I know there aren't going to be dedicated Google apps)

    Thanks!
    Yes and your contacts and calendar transfer seamlessly as well.
    05-14-2014 05:38 PM
  11. SEAL62505's Avatar
    If I were to buy an Icon from someone (not a Verizon store) can I just pop my iphone sim into it? I believe they are both nano sim. Is there anything Verizon needs to change?


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    05-14-2014 05:45 PM
  12. explosive0's Avatar
    If I were to buy an Icon from someone (not a Verizon store) can I just pop my iphone sim into it? I believe they are both nano sim. Is there anything Verizon needs to change?
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    Typically, you can just pop the SIM in. Verizon prefers you actually swap the ESN on the backend, though.
    Last edited by explosive0; 05-15-2014 at 04:34 PM.
    05-14-2014 08:17 PM
  13. bgl321's Avatar
    have you updated to 8.1?
    05-15-2014 09:25 AM
  14. SEAL62505's Avatar
    have you updated to 8.1?
    Does 8.1 change how it handles google accounts?
    05-15-2014 09:26 AM
  15. MA83's Avatar
    If I were to buy an Icon from someone (not a Verizon store) can I just pop my iphone sim into it? I believe they are both nano sim. Is there anything Verizon needs to change?


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    Yes. But it's not that difficult. Just a quick call to Verizon's automated system.
    05-15-2014 09:56 AM
  16. MA83's Avatar
    Does 8.1 change how it handles google accounts?
    I don't believe so.
    05-15-2014 09:57 AM
  17. iamtim's Avatar
    Thinking about giving the try but trying to find some feedback from former iPhone users.
    So, I didn't switch to an Icon, but I've switched many times and can probably give you some unbiased feedback. Some qualifiers for you: I grew up hating Windows because I was a DOS and Linux guy. Windows 7 was the first Windows I liked using, and Windows 8 nailed it. I don't like iPads at all - I don't think iOS scales up very well - and I use a Surface RT. I think Apple nailed the iPhone, that's a great piece of work even given the boring staleness sometimes associated with iOS. So I'm neither a Microsoft nor an Apple "fanboy".

    I have two lines - two phones - which I carry with me all the time: work and personal. My work phone is company-provided; it is, and will always be, an iPhone. Currently it's a white iPhone 5S. My personal phone changes almost as often as I change my clothes; since the release of Windows Phone 8 I've had a Lumia 920, a Lumia 820, a Lumia 520, an HTC 8X, an iPhone 4, and an iPhone 4S as my personal phone.

    Switching from an iPhone can be really easy, or it can be a pain in the rear. If you're well entrenched in the Apple world, it'll be the latter. If you're the type of person who is a cutting edge app hound and download the latest apps from the App Store as soon as they come out, it's going to be painful. Here are some things to be aware of before you make the switch:

    * As mentioned above, if you use iMessage it can be an ordeal to get out of the iMessage system. Until you do, this means people who used to iMessage you will have a horrible time getting messages to you. According to Apple, turning iMessage/FaceTime off and then signing out of them on the iPhone before you switch should remove your number. If that doesn't - which happens for many people - changing your Apple ID password should help (doing this logs all your devices out of iMessage/FaceTime). If that doesn't - which happens for many people - you have to call Apple support. I just had this problem myself, luckily changing my Apple ID password did the trick for me.

    * If you've bought a lot of iOS apps, you're SOL. You're going to have to buy them again, and there's a chance you won't find the app or you'll have to settle for something third party. If your iOS apps are important to you, research their availability (or the availability of functionally similar apps) before you switch. You don't want to blindly switch only to find that your bank doesn't have an app and you can't live without your bank's app.

    * If you've been buying music from the iTunes Music Store for a long time, a good portion of your music might be DRM protected. In that case, those songs are SOL - they won't play on Windows Phone. Some of the non-DRMed music might not play as well, depending on the format you downloaded from the Music Store. Luckily, iTunes can convert non-DRMed songs to MP3 fairly easily, and DRMed music can be burned to CD and re-imported as MP3s... but if your music collection is large, that might be exceedingly time consuming. If you're willing to pony up $10/month you could get an Xbox Music Pass and rely on the Xbox Music Cloud matching ability, but the iTunes catalog is MUCH bigger than the Xbox catalog and many songs might not be found.

    All of that said, Windows Phone is a worthy candidate and oftentimes a breath of fresh air. I'm not saying you shouldn't switch; truth be told, I prefer Windows Phone. I'm just saying that if you're well entrenched in the Apple world you need to do your due diligence before you switch...

    ...otherwise we'll all have to read another thread here on WPC about why Windows Phone doesn't have this app like iOS or why it doesn't have this feature like iOS. And I don't want to read any more of those, heh. :D
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    05-15-2014 09:58 AM
  18. chezm's Avatar
    * As mentioned above, if you use iMessage it can be an ordeal to get out of the iMessage system. Until you do, this means people who used to iMessage you will have a horrible time getting messages to you. According to Apple, turning iMessage/FaceTime off and then signing out of them on the iPhone before you switch should remove your number. If that doesn't - which happens for many people - changing your Apple ID password should help (doing this logs all your devices out of iMessage/FaceTime). If that doesn't - which happens for many people - you have to call Apple support. I just had this problem myself, luckily changing my Apple ID password did the trick for me.
    No doubt about this, very frustrating. Thankfully for work i've got a Macbook Pro, so I have the accessibility to a more robust Apple OS with iMessage capabilities. I had done everything up until your last step, calling Apple Support. I was able to log in, modify my Apple ID multiple times by screwing around with a few registered email addresses i'd assigned after removing my phone number. After some disables, enables, basically forcing the iMessage to override any relation with my phone number to Apple ID, it seems to have worked now...after a week of screwing around. Its been a few days now where my friends say first attempt is Green (SMS), every time! Just an FYI for anyone having the issue and with a friend whos got a Macbook or iPad (which im sure everyone can find someone with either device). You can sign in, do your stuff, and sign out/disable knowledge of your Apple ID with that device.
    05-15-2014 10:08 AM
  19. iamtim's Avatar
    Its been a few days now where my friends say first attempt is Green (SMS), every time!
    Last I checked, for me, it starts blue but then fails and rolls back to green. I think I'll check that right now!

    ...

    Hah, no, it finally went straight to green. Sweet. :)
    05-15-2014 10:16 AM
  20. Deceptiion's Avatar
    I think i resolved my issue, logged into my work Mac Pro with my Apple ID and changed my target to be my email for iMessage...then added a second email, and then used that as my target for iMessage. My friends are reporting that either SMS (green on iPhone) is automatic (without attempting iMessage) or it will show delivered as iMessage (blue) but it reaches my phone now too (i guess it is delivered via imessage since its going to my email now). So if Apple Care isn't helpful i'd suggest finding a friends Apple device and trying this method to change the target settings.
    I'll check that out with my brothers laptop, Thanks!
    05-15-2014 10:41 AM
  21. chezm's Avatar
    Ugh, my wife says it attempted iMessage AGAIN and failed back to SMS/Green...my number must still be lingering in some iMessage Cache. It's happening less frequent (attempts to iMessage).

    Deception, still go ahead and do what i recommended...it cant hurt.
    05-15-2014 11:58 AM
  22. DBZo07's Avatar
    I have iPhone 5s, I hardly use it. Windows phones are simply Best. My basic needs are
    MS office, notes ๐Ÿ“
    Music ๐ŸŽถ
    Games ๐ŸŽฎ
    Digital assistant Cortana
    And camera ๐Ÿ“ท.
    Everything is perfect with 8.1 update. Can't be so happy with iPhones.

    Windows phone rooms are better than imessage it has chat+events+notes+media+location.
    Last edited by DBZo07; 05-15-2014 at 12:20 PM.
    05-15-2014 12:10 PM
  23. bgl321's Avatar
    Does 8.1 change how it handles google accounts?
    I think I may have posted this in the wrong thread. I don't know why I asked that. Sorry.
    05-15-2014 01:05 PM
  24. csiguy1's Avatar
    I switched from the 5S because I use Office for my work and the Icon works great with it. Also I CANNOT see the small iPhone screen.
    05-18-2014 09:17 PM
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