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  1. worldspy99's Avatar
    On the positive side for HERE Maps, I got around in Ireland without a single issue by downloading the Ireland map in offline mode a couple of months ago. That is something you cannot do with Google maps.
    05-05-2014 09:04 AM
  2. EwingMCSE's Avatar
    I have a Lumia Icon with the 8.1 OS update installed. I also have a 2012 Ford Mustang which has MS Sync in it so Nokia HERE+ maps works amazing. The maps (minus streetview) are great and the voice navigation comes through my car's speaker system. My radio will cut out, the navigation voice will issue it's update and then the radio will turn back on.

    If maps are your only concern then you should definitely get a Windows Phone. It's no concern at all.
    05-05-2014 09:29 AM
  3. Tansen's Avatar
    I had similar concerns not to long ago, but I've been WP8 for almost a year now and it hasn't really given me any problems. Offline maps are a big help when driving between cities with no internet (something that google maps on a GS3 almost screwed me on once) and even a trip to Austria was very easy with Nokia Maps. Even the default maps is very smooth and thorough.
    05-05-2014 09:36 AM
  4. Akhilesh Bhambhani's Avatar
    You can check out this App called Google Maps by Clarity. Don't know how it works and all. But I am from India there are several locations which wont show up on here maps but when I search them on official Google maps OR this app it shows up just fine gives proper directions and built in navigation its good. So is HERE maps ao don't worry :)
    05-05-2014 09:45 AM
  5. nasellok's Avatar
    Longtime android user here (current Lumia Icon) - Here maps navigation is better than Google's if you know the address you are going to. If you don't know the address, the points of interest - ie. I live in NYC, and if im looking for an Icon Parking garage (a specific management company), the results are way better on Google, in which case, I can bing search, and get results, and then input address into here maps - this is a very fine detail, as this is the only thing ive ever had an issue finding on HERE. That being said, the navigation ui, and the offline mode, etc. are so much better than googles offerings. Streetview is not available on HERE, but not a dealbreaker for me. There are apps that plug in googles maps that you can get streetview if you really need it.
    05-05-2014 09:52 AM
  6. MA83's Avatar
    I loved Google Navigation, but I've found the combination of Bing Maps with Here+ Navigation to be just as good or superior. I actually just listen to the navigation instructions and don't even bother with looking at the maps and I get to where I need to go. I use Bing Maps because I've found it to be more accurate and offer better suggestions when looking for general items like a restaurant, hair salon, etc. When you find a location you want, you just touch it, touch the drive option on the next screen that comes up, and Here+ navigation will do the rest in getting you there.
    05-05-2014 10:17 AM
  7. radmanvr's Avatar
    Interesting reading through everyone's input but from my personal experience. HERE maps are more accurate however it was a one timer and I did not test consistency.

    I have 2 sisters, one with a Droid and the other with iPhone. I am not sure what iPhone uses for maps but both of their phones led them to a destination that was no longer there while HERE led us to the correct location. The restaurant moved just a few blocks down.

    As for the rest of you guys saying destination on left or right. Its actually more simple than that, You have to reach back into your primitive days or land navigation course (if you took one). Just pay attention to the address. Even and Odd number addresses are always opposite of each other.
    05-05-2014 10:26 AM
  8. cbreze's Avatar
    I also miss google maps saying "destination is on the right/left"

    Other than that I've no complaints.
    This is my only issue with the Nokia map offerings. Coming from google I never realized how much I relied on this until I tried it on my icon. My workaround is to have the address I'm looking for to know whether it is an odd or even number so I can position myself on the correct side of the street. It can be a PITA at times if in a strange place with heavy traffic and turning from one busy street onto another with your destination coming up quick. Which side do I need?? I can't count how many times I had to turn around. Google is awesome and always told me the correct side to be on. Its really the only thing I don't like about the Nokia maps system. Waze is the same. The 3rd party google maps from the wp store is mostly crap.
    05-05-2014 11:27 AM
  9. cbreze's Avatar
    I am considering switching from android. I have a 2year old Motorola droid maxx that has slowed to a near stop.
    Please advise.

    Thanks
    Jeff in Ohio
    It helps to clear your cache on a regular basis on a DROID. I used/still have a DROID razor Maxx over 2 years old and its still as quick as the day I got it. I clear the cache usually monthly. Never had any slow down issues with it. There are other tricks and apps to get rid of that are easily done and will give your DROID a good tune up in the speed dept. I'm going to presume you've tried these things. Not trying to put you off WP, but google maps it doesn't have and the maps it does have are just plain not up to what android and google maps can do. I've been taken to the wrong place by as much as being 6 blocks to a mile and a half off. There seems to be more of a learning curve using these maps over google maps. Its really my only complaint of the WP OS. Its not google maps! (thats for sure)
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    05-05-2014 11:40 AM
  10. gernerttl's Avatar
    I do have Verizon Navigation...I may try that sometime this week for a comparison ..
    VZ Navigator isn't free. It costs $5.99/month and it doesn't have a free trial period... at least when I used to use it.
    05-05-2014 12:56 PM
  11. Markham Ranja's Avatar
    A lot depends on where you are and where you plan to go.

    Here/Bing maps is good for the US and most of Europe. In Asia, it's a different story. Google has far far better POI data and updates much faster too. In India, for example, there are roads and buildings which have been around for 2 years and still don't appear on WP. There's Pakistan, where major cities are completely blank. There's Japan, FFS, where WP is again completely useless w.r.t. maps. Same with South Korea.

    Then there's the question of what you do with a map app. I personally do not drive and have never owned a car (matter of fact, I never learned to drive). So for me it's more about walking around, public transit, just seeing what's around me wherever I happen to be. So if you're the type that would search for "restaurants", i.e. looking for places to go nearby, I'd stick to Android and Google Maps. On the other hand, if you need it to drive around to specific addresses or long distance where you might not have data, do get the WP.
    05-05-2014 01:43 PM
  12. Akhilesh Bhambhani's Avatar
    A lot depends on where you are and where you plan to go.

    Here/Bing maps is good for the US and most of Europe. In Asia, it's a different story. Google has far far better POI data and updates much faster too. In India, for example, there are roads and buildings which have been around for 2 years and still don't appear on WP. There's Pakistan, where major cities are completely blank. There's Japan, FFS, where WP is again completely useless w.r.t. maps. Same with South Korea.

    Then there's the question of what you do with a map app. I personally do not drive and have never owned a car (matter of fact, I never learned to drive). So for me it's more about walking around, public transit, just seeing what's around me wherever I happen to be. So if you're the type that would search for "restaurants", i.e. looking for places to go nearby, I'd stick to Android and Google Maps. On the other hand, if you need it to drive around to specific addresses or long distance where you might not have data, do get the WP.
    Download Google Maps by Clarity. Should fix your problem of buildings not showing up. :)
    05-05-2014 01:45 PM
  13. Coreldan's Avatar
    I can't say how well Here+ works in your area, but in mine it works amazing and I would have no reason to consider using Google's service.
    05-05-2014 02:01 PM
  14. realwarder's Avatar
    The offline maps capability is great - went to Europe and downloaded the countries before travelling which gave me free, up to date sat nav over there.

    HERE Drive+ has always got me to my destination which is what counts, and has a pretty accurate trip time with travel delay too.
    05-05-2014 03:25 PM
  15. David Lohrentz's Avatar
    With WP 8.1 you can choose your default map app which is automatically opened when you tell Cortana to navigate to ____. I'm not sure how many options there are on Windows Phone, but I've got: Here Drive+, Waze, gMaps or Windows Phone maps. The first three have voice navigation. So if you find that one doesn't work well in the area where you are, you do have other options. I've used mostly Here Drive and Waze and found them both to work fine for my needs. As noted you can download maps, which is helpful.

    Nokia seems VERY committed to their Here Map technologies so I'd expect this to continue to get even better over time.
    05-05-2014 03:40 PM
  16. James8561's Avatar
    Thanks!
    I checked out here maps. It appears that, although different from google maps, It would serve my per pose as long as the voice navigation works well. ( I need it to say "turn left on xyz street in 1/4 mile so I do not have to watch the screen all the time)

    Just so I understand it properly, using Cortana, I could search for a certain business , then ask her to call, or navigate to it all by voice?

    Thanks to all for the help!
    I just tried this on Cortana.
    "where is the nearest in n out restaurant?"
    "I found In-N-Out Burger in [city]. It's about [#] miles away."
    "call it"
    "calling in-n-out burger"

    and I tried "drive there" and "walk there" instead of "call it" and Cortana opens HERE Drive+ (which is the car nav app) and bing maps with walking direction respectively for each command.
    so yes Cortana can do all that and best of all, she's context-aware so she'll know that "drive there" means that you want directions to in-n-out by car and not driving to a place called "there."
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    05-05-2014 04:29 PM
  17. admorris#AC's Avatar
    I am considering switching from android. I have a 2year old Motorola droid maxx that has slowed to a near stop. I am not a big app user or gamer. However, I do have a couple of concerns. I am a consultant and drive about 50,000 miles a year, mostly in Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania .I do a lot of Google searches for directions,phone numbers and information. I also use google voice to make calls while driving etc.
    I can live with some growing pains in other areas but I can't sacrifice on the search/navigation piece.

    When using Cortana, what maps does the icon use ? How do they compare to google maps in terms of accuracy and integration etc.?
    When doing a google search, I can go to the website, navigate to that point or call with one touch. I don't want to give that up.

    Please advise.

    Thanks
    Jeff in Ohio
    I drive a big rig on the east coast for a living and tried windows phone. Great phone (Ativ SE), but there is no substitute for Google Maps. Accuracy is better, navigation is better, integration with websites is better. If you're doing that much driving, stick with Android.

    Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk
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    05-05-2014 06:37 PM
  18. J4rrod's Avatar
    You have two options, on Windows Phone, Bing Maps or HERE Maps. Both are very good and I have had exactly zero problems since I've been using Bing Maps (2010) and HERE Maps (2012). Since 2010, I've driven over 120k miles, if that tells you anything.
    05-05-2014 06:42 PM
  19. gmcole's Avatar
    I just tried this on Cortana.
    "where is the nearest in n out restaurant?"
    "I found In-N-Out Burger in [city]. It's about [#] miles away."
    "call it"
    "calling in-n-out burger"

    and I tried "drive there" and "walk there" instead of "call it" and Cortana opens HERE Drive+ (which is the car nav app) and bing maps with walking direction respectively for each command.
    so yes Cortana can do all that and best of all, she's context-aware so she'll know that "drive there" means that you want directions to in-n-out by car and not driving to a place called "there."
    That is exactly what I am looking for! Thanks!
    I think I'll give the Icon a try.
    Assuming that if I buy it straight out (no contract committment) I can sell it.
    Thanks for everyones input!!!
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    05-05-2014 06:56 PM
  20. anon6002755's Avatar
    As for the rest of you guys saying destination on left or right. Its actually more simple than that, You have to reach back into your primitive days or land navigation course (if you took one). Just pay attention to the address. Even and Odd number addresses are always opposite of each other.
    Thank god for your advice. Problem solved. Now there is no longer a feature that is available on Google maps that isn't available on HERE maps. Any more pro tips?

    Maybe the person looking at switching would be concerned with features that he/she has grown accustomed to having on Google maps navigation being missing. or maybe they should take a land nav course as you suggest or better yet maybe forgo the convenience of owning a smartphone and using voice guided navigation and instead just pick up a paper map.
    admorris#AC likes this.
    05-05-2014 06:59 PM
  21. techgeek32#WN's Avatar
    One nice feature on Windows Phone in that you can add an app to convert map searches to contacts. Google maps removed that feature.
    James8561 likes this.
    05-05-2014 07:25 PM
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