07-09-2014 04:50 PM
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  1. kclinden's Avatar
    I bought a Nokia Lumia Icon on eBay for $375 2 weeks ago, because I thought I would love Windows Phone as I love Windows 8. I have been using an iPhone basically since they came out. The camera on the Nokia Icon was also a huge selling point. After about of week of using, I just couldn't adjust to the phone and its differences. The following are issues that I had that maybe I can get help with or hear what other people's thoughts are...

    Issues:
    Only way to wake the phone is to press the button onto he side which is not very quick.
    The camera was pretty slow.
    Swapping between the front an rear camera was not easily accessible or intuitive.
    Putting the phone on vibrate is not as simple as the flip of a switch like on the iPhone, it takes a while to unlock the phone then adjust it.
    Changing any of the emission settings (WiFi, Bluetooth, Airplane mode) requires the phone be unlocked.
    The phone was a little large for me.
    Cortland can't search anything without being unlocked.
    Bluetooth LE is not supported with the developer preview with WP8.1, I know I can downgrade.
    Apps don't seem nearly as finished, features missing, apps missing. (well known of course)
    07-06-2014 06:34 PM
  2. hidayat225's Avatar
    Hi and welcome 😊. Well for a start, you should have done a thorough research on the cons of Windows Phone 8. And since you've already bought 1. I suggest you give at least a month for it to grows on you.

    As for apps you could try to find great alternatives in the forums here if not you should really not rely on WP8 for your apps as I believe the store is still not 'there' yet for some.
    John Welsh1 and aximtreo like this.
    07-06-2014 06:40 PM
  3. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    1. You can use double tap to wake up the phone.
    2. Default Microsoft Camera is pretty quick though
    3. You can set-up quick toggles in Camera app (including front/rear camera).
    4. Agree, pretty handy feature, but not too much important (I have iPhone 4).
    5. These settings are changing the same way as in iOS, just swap from the top (WP) instead of the bottom (iOS).
    6.
    7. Did you mean Cortana? You can do speak to Cortana while the phone will be locked. Although if you will set-up a PIN, it might require to input the PIN (works exactly the same as in iOS).
    8. BT LE will work in Cyan.
    9. Apps apps apps (developers developers developers (c) Balmer).
    07-06-2014 06:45 PM
  4. Dave Bhullar's Avatar
    Go to touch settings, there should be a setting to wake up the phone there by double tapping the screen. Since you're very new to windows phone, some things might seem unintuitive and slow, but it will get better when you get used to everything on the new phone.
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    07-06-2014 06:54 PM
  5. upnort's Avatar
    The OP said they got the Icon. No double tap to wake. Like you I found those to be minor annoyances but I like everything else about WP. I would suggest you wait to see if any of those issues are addressed with the Cyan update.
    Nerdy Woman and aximtreo like this.
    07-06-2014 07:07 PM
  6. kclinden's Avatar
    I put it back on eBay hoping to get what I paid for it, but If it doesn't sell, then I will try it again after Cyan is released. I am in the US using Verizon, and what I saw was that it would be out sometime in July.

    I went to the MS store and the guy said you double tap it, but that doesn't appear to work on the Icon with WP8.1. Also for some reason the phone gets randomly hot as if the apps continue to run when the phone is in standby. Hopefully this is fixed with WP8.1 Final. What are quick toggles? I was using the Nokia Camera app as every review and post pretty much said it was the best. The iPhone does not require you to unlock the phone with the pin just to change the WiFi and Bluetooth settings.
    07-06-2014 07:17 PM
  7. Ed Boland's Avatar
    I also used iPhone from the very beginning. Went through 4 generations of iPhones, then switched to Windows Phone when the Nokia Lumia 920 and WP8 came out. I've since upgraded to the 1020 and love it! (especially with the 8.1 DP!) After using WP for almost a couple years now, I picked up my old iphone 4 the other day and thought "how did I get by with this?" Seriously, give it some time.. it'll grow on you!
    07-06-2014 07:27 PM
  8. Aaron Yawn's Avatar
    KC - the heat issue you are experiencing is due to a preview with no firmware. It actually isn't an app IMO. I believe it is the OS failing to properly come out of background actions and gets stuck in loop to bring start screen back. I have had the issue for awhile now and it has been getting worse, so I am looking forward to the firmware release.
    07-06-2014 07:45 PM
  9. kclinden's Avatar
    Would I be better off with WP8.0?
    07-06-2014 09:02 PM
  10. kclinden's Avatar
    Does visual voicemail cost money with WP? Just noticed I don't have it.
    07-06-2014 09:43 PM
  11. Oliverspin's Avatar
    Does visual voicemail cost money with WP? Just noticed I don't have it.
    You'd be better off waiting and not selling. Give it some time for crud sake, this OS is constantly evolving and the final release of 8.1 will be great.
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    07-06-2014 09:50 PM
  12. Maaz Mansori's Avatar
    Does visual voicemail cost money with WP? Just noticed I don't have it.
    Visual Voicemail is dependent on the carrier. It has nothing to do with the OS although some phones may not support it. I believe Verizon charges $2.99/month. I have AT&T and it is included at no extra charge, at least with the plan that I am on.
    b23h likes this.
    07-06-2014 09:56 PM
  13. Jean Sagarese's Avatar
    I had a iPhone since the 2nd Generation and I switched to the 1020 last August I love it and I sold my iPad and also got the 2520 tablet, give the phone you got a while it did take me a little bit to really understand somethings but I will say I have a DSLR Camera and my phone was the camera I used for my first trip to Hawaii last fall I couldn't be happier with the pictures and video
    b23h likes this.
    07-06-2014 09:59 PM
  14. Ed Boland's Avatar
    Visual Voicemail is dependent on the carrier. It has nothing to do with the OS although some phones may not support it. I believe Verizon charges $2.99/month. I have AT&T and it is included at no extra charge, at least with the plan that I am on.
    And I think on the phone, to set it up, you have to call the voicemail number the first time, and give it a password if you want. Then the visual will work.
    07-06-2014 10:10 PM
  15. Ed Boland's Avatar
    And as far as the 8.1 dev preview goes, I believe a hard reset following the 8.1 update install really helps clean things up where it'll run a lot better. (it worked for me!) To do a hard reset, first make sure your phone is set up with your Microsoft account and back everything up (settings/backup), then go to settings/about/reset phone. This will restore your phone to factory settings, but with the 8.1DP as the OS (fresh and clean!) then once it starts up the first time, it'll ask you to log into your Microsoft account and from there restore the backup you made.

    My 1020 runs 8.1 buttery smooth!
    07-06-2014 10:21 PM
  16. winrayjay99's Avatar
    Yes visual voice mail cost money with Windows phone. Android has this problem to. IPhone users get it free because apple held visual voicemail as part of iphone free over the network providers heads so they could get iPhone. AT&T was an iPhone exclusive provider at launch because of it. But don't let that keep you from using windows phone. I say think about what you want to do first.
    07-06-2014 10:33 PM
  17. greycounciller's Avatar
    Would I be better off with WP8.0?
    I tried 8.1 for a day and hated it.
    I know it has a lot of plus sides, but found it a bit clunky and disjointed in use plus some of the 8.0 functionality is gone.
    Mavee Shah and mrzees like this.
    07-06-2014 11:24 PM
  18. anon(6038817)'s Avatar
    Give it at least a month before writing it off.
    Posted from my Nokia Lumia 822 using Tapatalk
    07-06-2014 11:30 PM
  19. Dreamspell's Avatar
    Issues:
    Only way to wake the phone is to press the button onto he side which is not very quick.
    The camera was pretty slow.
    Swapping between the front an rear camera was not easily accessible or intuitive.
    Putting the phone on vibrate is not as simple as the flip of a switch like on the iPhone, it takes a while to unlock the phone then adjust it.
    Changing any of the emission settings (WiFi, Bluetooth, Airplane mode) requires the phone be unlocked.
    The phone was a little large for me.
    Cortland can't search anything without being unlocked.
    Bluetooth LE is not supported with the developer preview with WP8.1, I know I can downgrade.
    Apps don't seem nearly as finished, features missing, apps missing. (well known of course)
    I had an iPhone and now have an Icon.

    Double tap to wake should be coming with the Lumia Cyan.
    Microsoft Camera is faster but not as advanced.
    Microsoft Camera has programmable quick settings.
    Not as fast, but you don't need to unlock. Wake the phone, press one of the volume keys, expand by pressing the down arrow, turn vibrate on and disable ringer if you want.
    The pull down notification shade can be accessed while on the lock screen, where you can toggle most settings on and off.
    Personal preference.
    Hold down the Search button while on the lock screen to access Cortana directly.
    Bluetooth LE is coming back with Lumia Cyan.
    Apps will improve and come in time.
    07-06-2014 11:34 PM
  20. James8561's Avatar
    have you tried ProShot? it is the fastest camera app in the store and it has full manual control like you get from a DSLR.
    07-06-2014 11:41 PM
  21. Editguy1900's Avatar
    I tried 8.1 for a day and hated it.
    I know it has a lot of plus sides, but found it a bit clunky and disjointed in use plus some of the 8.0 functionality is gone.
    Wow, a whole day.
    07-07-2014 12:41 AM
  22. RMansfield's Avatar
    Hmmm...now you've got me worried. My story almost exactly mirrors yours. I've used iPhones since they first came out, but I've been interested in Windows Phones because of the cameras. First, I bought a 928 on eBay just to see if I could live with Windows Phone. Now I've ordered an Icon from eBay (should arrive this week). My contract with Verizon runs out in September. If I like the Icon well enough, I thought I'd sell my iPhone on eBay, and then in September decide whether I want an iPhone 6 (which will presumably be available) or whichever new Windows Phone has the best camera at that time (there's no guarantee I'll stick with Verizon).
    07-07-2014 12:54 AM
  23. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Yes visual voice mail cost money with Windows phone. Android has this problem to. IPhone users get it free because apple held visual voicemail as part of iphone free over the network providers heads so they could get iPhone. AT&T was an iPhone exclusive provider at launch because of it. But don't let that keep you from using windows phone. I say think about what you want to do first.
    Visual Voicemail is free on AT&T no matter what device one uses. I had it when I used BlackBerry, and I still have it with Windows Phone. Verizon charges extra for Visual Voicemail.
    07-07-2014 12:57 AM
  24. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    the Icon, 625 and 520 have double tap to wake. It is not dependent on the glance screen. The two have no connection
    Karthik Naik and b23h like this.
    07-07-2014 02:04 AM
  25. iconuser165's Avatar
    "Returning to My IPhone"

    That pretty much says where your heart is.

    I did the research. I understood that I was buying the Icon for the 20MP camera. I have to tell you that I find it incredible in both pictures and video. I invested in "Adobe Lightroom" to 'touch up' my errors because I know where my heart (and need) is. I also find the Icon to be a very good phone and the available apps fill my needs. I look forward to the Cyan update. The Icon is all that I hoped for.

    I am sorry you don't find the Icon relevant to your life. Perhaps later, when you've had a chance to re-compare and think it through, you can always come back to Windows Phone. I, and others, will be waiting here with smiles to welcome you back if that day occurs.
    abausch and b23h like this.
    07-07-2014 02:28 AM
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