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  1. tcman88's Avatar
    I think we all kinda assumed that, being the newest and most powerful WP8 phone in the US, The Icon would be one of the first to get Cyan/WP8.1. The notion that this exact hardware was also called the first official "WP8.1 hardware" at the announcement of the Nokia Lumia 930 added validity to that assumption.

    Nope...



    Ridiculous... The Icon needs WP8.1 to be competitive at all in the marketplace of iOS6 & Android. Verizon is crippling this phone.
    HTC One is exclusive to Verizon so other phones gotta wait. Just the cost of doing business :)
    09-08-2014 10:24 AM
  2. Kieta's Avatar
    I really hope the delay has to do with the WiFi. It ticked me off disconnecting and reconnecting yesterday I wanted to throw the phone. Not to mention not even seeing the network until a reboot. Please. Please let cyan fix the WiFi :)
    09-08-2014 10:26 AM
  3. nolan533's Avatar
    I upgraded to the Icon last week.(my first windows phone)
    Day 2 I installed the developers preview of 8.1 and it runs flawless. I've not had one problem yet.
    09-08-2014 10:28 AM
  4. Kieta's Avatar
    Are we there yet?

    We're up to 15 pages (PC). Cyan better get here before we get to 25 or I lose my bet.
    Crap, I better stop posting I said 17 and we are now on 16. :(
    09-08-2014 10:35 AM
  5. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    HTC One is exclusive to Verizon so other phones gotta wait. Just the cost of doing business :)
    Not just other phones, other customers. Their own customers have to wait. Meaning my friends and family who have an Icon are now sitting without the most recent software update because Verizon wants to sell a completely different phone. And no, they're not going to use the developer preview because they're not techie.

    AT&T's entire Lumia line is now on Cyan/Wp8.1. And they're getting the HTC One with Windows Phone as well. This is why my next contract will be with AT&T.
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    09-08-2014 10:38 AM
  6. MikeSo's Avatar
    I upgraded to the Icon last week.(my first windows phone)
    Day 2 I installed the developers preview of 8.1 and it runs flawless. I've not had one problem yet.
    Except you're not getting the full functionality of the phone, including BT LE and SensorCore until you have Cyan. That's what's bugging me. I have a phone that has capability for more but Verizon is keeping me from utilizing it.
    Last edited by MikeSo; 09-08-2014 at 11:09 AM.
    09-08-2014 10:55 AM
  7. nolan533's Avatar
    BT LE ???? Enlighten me.please
    09-08-2014 11:17 AM
  8. shann123's Avatar
    BT LE ???? Enlighten me.please
    Low energy Bluetooth
    09-08-2014 11:23 AM
  9. jazz70's Avatar
    Verizon must have run into some showstopper bug with Cyan/8.1 to take this long, I have full confidence the 3 people testing and working on Windows Phone in the basement at Verizon headquarters will eventually figure out the problem
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    09-08-2014 11:30 AM
  10. feeked's Avatar
    I really hope the delay has to do with the WiFi. It ticked me off disconnecting and reconnecting yesterday I wanted to throw the phone. Not to mention not even seeing the network until a reboot. Please. Please let cyan fix the WiFi :)
    One trick I found to avoid rebooting when a network isn't found is to choose another network (like on mine, usually there are several from earlier in the day and it's "stuck") and try connecting to that. Use a bogus password if they're all secure. Obviously it won't be able to connect, but doing that essentially resets the wireless and the network you're looking for will show up.
    aximtreo and Kieta like this.
    09-08-2014 11:40 AM
  11. donebrasko's Avatar
    Verizon must have run into some showstopper bug with Cyan/8.1 to take this long, I have full confidence the 3 people testing and working on Windows Phone in the basement at Verizon headquarters will eventually figure out the problem
    How big of a bug can it be? The HTC one seems to be running fine. I'd be satisfied if they release cyan for the developers preview. I called Verizon and they directed me to Nokia Nokia directed me to Verizon. They couldn't even give details about cyan on the dp version
    09-08-2014 11:42 AM
  12. feeked's Avatar
    How big of a bug can it be?
    Well, between all the wireless issues, occasional battery drain, and XBOX MUSIC, it's not really too shocking. I mean, the xbox music change alone would be enough to really frustrate your average user and make it near impossible to use.
    09-08-2014 11:44 AM
  13. wpfan2be's Avatar
    Just got 2 icons, upgraded to 8.1 using DP. Did not know about VZW taking this long to release a firmware. I love the phone and mostly the new OS. We have the wifi disconnect and sudden reboots issues. I guess we are all stuck until Verizon releases Cyan. Maybe by the end of my contract in 2 years we will get these....
    09-08-2014 12:01 PM
  14. Chrono803's Avatar
    Maybe by the end of my contract in 2 years we will get these....
    We can only hope that's the case :]
    09-08-2014 12:06 PM
  15. Patriots1959's Avatar
    I received word the update will be released this Thursday the 11th, only if Mr. Stinguish agrees to wait patiently and stay with Verizon. This same source also predicted the Pastriots beating the fish this past weekend.
    09-08-2014 12:58 PM
  16. airjeff's Avatar
    HTC One is exclusive to Verizon so other phones gotta wait. Just the cost of doing business :)
    Any idea how long the other phones gotta wait?
    09-08-2014 01:00 PM
  17. DavidinCT's Avatar
    I received word the update will be released this Thursday the 11th, only if Mr. Stinguish agrees to wait patiently and stay with Verizon. This same source also predicted the Pastriots beating the fish this past weekend.
    At this point I think I would rather have them delay it another 2 weeks and give us Denim and Cyan in one update.... If we FINALLY get Cyan, I am not looking forward to the 3 months before we get Denim (and I have had 8.1 for a while, it's the new features in Denim I WANT)
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    09-08-2014 01:41 PM
  18. Chrono803's Avatar
    At this point I think I would rather have them delay it another 2 weeks and give us Denim and Cyan in one update....
    But how do you know they'll release Denim so soon? If we're waiting this long for Cyan I'm thinking we'll wait at least as long for Denim to be released.
    09-08-2014 01:44 PM
  19. Patriots1959's Avatar
    Based on the Verizon wireless release schedule for Android 4.4.x phones, Verizon has no problem skipping incremental versions. The Razr Maxx jumped from 4.4.0 to 4.4.4, the Galaxy S4 I believe jumped from 4.3 to 4.4.2. It does seem likely we will see Denim before I stop seeing nasty milkshake straw sized varicose veins on my shorts wearing co-workers' chicken legs. I mean before cyan.
    09-08-2014 01:54 PM
  20. gernerttl's Avatar
    Based on the Verizon wireless release schedule for Android 4.4.x phones, Verizon has no problem skipping incremental versions. The Razr Maxx jumped from 4.4.0 to 4.4.4, the Galaxy S4 I believe jumped from 4.3 to 4.4.2. It does seem likely we will see Denim before I stop seeing nasty milkshake straw sized varicose veins on my shorts wearing co-workers' chicken legs. I mean before cyan.
    TMI Dude... T. M. I.
    09-08-2014 02:08 PM
  21. BigCTM's Avatar
    I think Verizon made a deal with HTC not to update the Icon for a certain period of time after the M8 was released. Probably to push the sales of the M8...
    09-08-2014 02:14 PM
  22. gernerttl's Avatar
    But how do you know they'll release Denim so soon? If we're waiting this long for Cyan I'm thinking we'll wait at least as long for Denim to be released.
    The difference is that WP8.1/Cyan is an OS AND firmware update; Denim is just a firmware update. Therefore, we'll get WP8.1/Cyan first because Denim will probably need WP8.1 to work. Also, because Denim is firmware only, that update should role out a bit faster. Verizon did a fairly decent job getting Black out in a timely manner last year. And I foresee Microsoft releasing Denim via developer preview like they did with Black last year.
    09-08-2014 02:16 PM
  23. Patriots1959's Avatar
    I think Verizon made a deal with HTC not to update the Icon for a certain period of time after the M8 was released. Probably to push the sales of the M8...
    Yes! This is the reason. I can smell it. I'm purchasing two Icons for my company today if I can my rep to finagle that $0 upgrade cost from two weeks ago. I'll try to squeeze out a cyan update as well.
    09-08-2014 02:45 PM
  24. Chrono803's Avatar
    The difference is that WP8.1/Cyan is an OS AND firmware update; Denim is just a firmware update. Therefore, we'll get WP8.1/Cyan first because Denim will probably need WP8.1 to work. Also, because Denim is firmware only, that update should role out a bit faster. Verizon did a fairly decent job getting Black out in a timely manner last year. And I foresee Microsoft releasing Denim via developer preview like they did with Black last year.
    Ahhh good point. I'm not familiar at all with Verizon's history of updates so thanks for putting it into perspective.
    09-08-2014 02:46 PM
  25. Mr. Brown's Avatar
    The difference is that WP8.1/Cyan is an OS AND firmware update; Denim is just a firmware update. Therefore, we'll get WP8.1/Cyan first because Denim will probably need WP8.1 to work. Also, because Denim is firmware only, that update should role out a bit faster. Verizon did a fairly decent job getting Black out in a timely manner last year. And I foresee Microsoft releasing Denim via developer preview like they did with Black last year.
    MS hasn't released any firmware update with DP, only OS updates.
    09-08-2014 02:46 PM
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