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  1. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    Agreed! However I particularly enjoy Mr. Stinguish's bashing of anyone who posts silly rumors as fact and other inaccurate foolishness.

    I love my Lumia with stable WP8. I'd like whisper sweet nothings to Cortana but I can live with out her since the voice search gives great Bing results. I don't have a problem with the update delay since Cyan and/or Denim are right around the corner and we'll probably get WP9 Egg Salad and WP9.1 Fish Tacos too.

    Verizon isn't so bad either. I manage my company's corporate acct - our assigned sales goons bend over backwards to get us what we want. Incidentally, the Icon is sold out and on backorder until the 18th. I'm trying to get my assigned goon to honor the recent $0 sale price for the icon and at the same time find out more on the Cyan release date - which could be tomorrow!
    I don't know what you're referring to. But I like you because you call me Mr. Stinguish.
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    09-10-2014 01:29 PM
  2. DavidinCT's Avatar
    Tomorrow ? LOL, I'll believe it when I see it.... **IF** that happened it could suck in a way, because then we will be waiting months for Denim...and not looking forward to that one....
    09-10-2014 01:43 PM
  3. MobileVortex's Avatar
    I can wait months for denim in cyan fixes my wifi, overheating, and screen unlocking issues.
    09-10-2014 01:49 PM
  4. jlzimmerman's Avatar
    We, my wife and I are sick and tired of being sick and tired of our Icon's. I just want to smash it with a hammer every time I go to wake it up and have to wait 10 secs while it's resuming before I even get to the lock screen. We are on DP and have all the latest updates. Battery life sucks, wifi is weak, Bluetooth is hit or miss very annoying. Could be a great phone but we are ready to change.
    I will give it till the end of the year ( my wife wants to leave now) and if it's not better we are done with windows. We came from Iphones never had any problems just wanted to try something new, so far we regret it. We are thinking of trying out android system next. Just no enjoyment when you curse your phone every time you pick it up. Just my thoughts on the Icon.
    I have none of these problems. None. I love the Icon. Then again, I'm still on 8.0 which I consciencely avoided because of reasons like yours.
    09-10-2014 01:56 PM
  5. Tepid's Avatar
    Pure speculation on your part.

    This entire thread is a massive downer with nothing but negativity. How about just enjoying the phone and speak with enthusiasm about what's coming?

    Kind of a bummer to check this thread and read nothing but rants..


    You miss the point. We do enjoy the Icon right now. We want to enjoy it even more with Cyan, (Miracast, better low light camera, and other improvements).



    Yeah, you 're right, this thread is a downer, don't blame us, this thread wouldn't exist if Verizon got of their *** and released it like they should have already.
    09-10-2014 02:37 PM
  6. raqball's Avatar
    Because negativity and rants is going to make Verizon release it sooner right?

    I'd love to have it right now but I am not going to rant about it. For all we know they hit a serious snag / issue and have done us a favor by not releasing it yet..

    We can choose to be negative or positive. It is just a phone update after all.
    09-10-2014 05:15 PM
  7. Tepid's Avatar
    I will say,, it may be getting close to time for a Class Action Lawsuit against ALL Carriers
    Bring about Legislation that will demand they...

    1.) Provide timely information regarding the update process
    2.) Setting a dead line for when the updates Must be released to the public once it is in their hands
    No delaying cause they have a new device coming out they want to sell first.
    3.) If they are not willing to do this, they do not get to sell those devices.
    Believe me when I tell you, this will NOT stifle high end devices.

    I am NOT referring just to Windows devices, but ALL Devices that all Cell Carriers are going to sell.
    If a Manufacturer/Developer is releasing an update to their devices, The Carrier should be held responsible
    and comply with releasing them in a timely manner, or provide information as to why there is a delay.

    This, going forward, should be a priority and a demand of all Cellular customers, across all carriers and ALL Devices that carriers sell.

    The old days of having just a phone that makes phone calls are over, they are gone.
    Those days ended when the smart phone became a Major Mainstream Device.
    09-10-2014 05:38 PM
  8. raqball's Avatar
    I will say,, it may be getting close to time for a Class Action Lawsuit against ALL Carriers
    Bring about Legislation that will demand they...

    1.) Provide timely information regarding the update process
    2.) Setting a dead line for when the updates Must be released to the public once it is in their hands
    No delaying cause they have a new device coming out they want to sell first.
    3.) If they are not willing to do this, they do not get to sell those devices.
    Believe me when I tell you, this will NOT stifle high end devices.

    I am NOT referring just to Windows devices, but ALL Devices that all Cell Carriers are going to sell.
    If a Manufacturer/Developer is releasing an update to their devices, The Carrier should be held responsible
    and comply with releasing them in a timely manner, or provide information as to why there is a delay.

    This, going forward, should be a priority and a demand of all Cellular customers, across all carriers and ALL Devices that carriers sell.

    The old days of having just a phone that makes phone calls are over, they are gone.
    Those days ended when the smart phone became a Major Mainstream Device.
    Sorry but I find this to be silly..

    I'd agree with your points IF the phone was non functioning or hampered. In that case, then yes the carriers should be on a tight timeframe for a fix.

    Class action suit over an update? Come in now, this is spiraling out of control and is borderline insanity. BTW, if such an action was brought who exactly do you think will end up footing the bill for all the attorney's?
    09-10-2014 05:48 PM
  9. Patriots1959's Avatar
    Because negativity and rants is going to make Verizon release it sooner right?
    Think of the venting and criticism of Verizon as group therapy. I'll start. "Hello My name is Mr. Pastriots, I hit check for update on my phone at least 20 times a day. I need my cyan and I'm a update-o-hoilc." Discuss...
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    09-10-2014 05:50 PM
  10. Tepid's Avatar
    Because negativity and rants is going to make Verizon release it sooner right?

    I'd love to have it right now but I am not going to rant about it. For all we know they hit a serious snag / issue and have done us a favor by not releasing it yet..

    We can choose to be negative or positive. It is just a phone update after all.
    No, it's not, It's a Hand Held computer that happens to make phone calls,
    If all you want is a cell phone,, don't buy a smart phone.
    Till then, bite me.
    09-10-2014 05:53 PM
  11. Tepid's Avatar
    Sorry but I find this to be silly..

    I'd agree with your points IF the phone was non functioning or hampered. In that case, then yes the carriers should be on a tight timeframe for a fix.

    Class action suit over an update? Come in now, this is spiraling out of control and is borderline insanity. BTW, if such an action was brought who exactly do you think will end up footing the bill for all the attorney's?
    The Process of a Class Action Lawsuit | Lawfirms.com

    No, it's not silly. What? You work for the Carriers? Defending them much?
    Manufacturers/Developers spent time to improve an existing device.
    Carriers should NEVER have a say on when or if they get released.

    "or financial fraud such as market manipulation or misrepresentation"

    What that entails is, buying a product that is well known to be improved upon by manufacturers and developers and then denying releasing those improvements or delaying so long as to make them obsolete to..
    1.) Push newer products on the market causing the consumer to spend more money just to get the extended features that manufacturers and developers released for free of their own free will to existing products already sold.

    That is Market Manipulation.
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    09-10-2014 05:58 PM
  12. raqball's Avatar
    No, it's not, It's a Hand Held computer that happens to make phone calls,
    If all you want is a cell phone,, don't buy a smart phone.
    Till then, bite me.
    My Icon works just fine as a smartphone as it sits right now sans Cyan so I am still not seeing your point.

    The bite me comment was uncalled for and I won't stoop to the level of name calling and insults..

    The Process of a Class Action Lawsuit | Lawfirms.com

    No, it's not silly. What? You work for the Carriers? Defending them much?
    Manufactureres/Developers spent time to improve an existing device.
    Carriers should NEVER have a say on when or if they get released.
    Nope I don't work for any carrier and I never have.. I fail to see what throwing an online tantrum will accomplish, that's all..

    Anywho, you appear to be an angry person who likes to argue so I won't respond to you any longer.

    Have a nice day and try to relax... its just a phone update man..
    ajamudc and gernerttl like this.
    09-10-2014 06:01 PM
  13. Tepid's Avatar
    My Icon works just fine as a smartphone as it sits right now sans Cyan so I am still not seeing your point.
    For you, so then you will be perfectly fine with not taking the update any way, and you can skip it and move on, making your comments and posts here completely meaningless to the rest of us.
    But for some of us, the improvements are wanted and welcomed.
    DavidinCT and jazz70 like this.
    09-10-2014 06:04 PM
  14. nolan533's Avatar
    Now now people. Lets try to play nice here.
    09-10-2014 06:19 PM
  15. DavidinCT's Avatar
    I will say,, it may be getting close to time for a Class Action Lawsuit against ALL Carriers
    Bring about Legislation that will demand they...

    1.) Provide timely information regarding the update process
    2.) Setting a dead line for when the updates Must be released to the public once it is in their hands
    No delaying cause they have a new device coming out they want to sell first.
    3.) If they are not willing to do this, they do not get to sell those devices.
    Believe me when I tell you, this will NOT stifle high end devices.

    I am NOT referring just to Windows devices, but ALL Devices that all Cell Carriers are going to sell.
    If a Manufacturer/Developer is releasing an update to their devices, The Carrier should be held responsible
    and comply with releasing them in a timely manner, or provide information as to why there is a delay.

    This, going forward, should be a priority and a demand of all Cellular customers, across all carriers and ALL Devices that carriers sell.

    The old days of having just a phone that makes phone calls are over, they are gone.
    Those days ended when the smart phone became a Major Mainstream Device.
    You get it started and I will sign it and join in.... Been dealing with this crap from Verizon as long as I can remember, there needs to be a stop or something done about it....

    People are ok now but, wait till the next update or the one after....waiting and waiting, and waiting...

    It would be nice to hear about a update and know the exact day it will be released by the carrier (or within a week of release)....Like Apple does....
    SoapBox3000 likes this.
    09-10-2014 07:07 PM
  16. donebrasko's Avatar
    What I think is that everyone is asking for its transparency.
    09-10-2014 10:17 PM
  17. quantum tao's Avatar
    What I think is that everyone is asking for its transparency.
    this is no place for reasonable explanations, please take it somewhere else. your hijacking of our doom and gloom thread will not be tolerated.
    forward...march.. Verizon must pay for this abuse of power over us WPsheep.... time to revolt!
    nevermind, I need to go to bed.
    alowisney, Tjarren, Airlid and 3 others like this.
    09-10-2014 11:04 PM
  18. skiahh's Avatar
    I will say,, it may be getting close to time for a Class Action Lawsuit against ALL Carriers
    Bring about Legislation that will demand they...

    1.) Provide timely information regarding the update process
    2.) Setting a dead line for when the updates Must be released to the public once it is in their hands
    No delaying cause they have a new device coming out they want to sell first.
    3.) If they are not willing to do this, they do not get to sell those devices.
    Believe me when I tell you, this will NOT stifle high end devices.

    I am NOT referring just to Windows devices, but ALL Devices that all Cell Carriers are going to sell.
    If a Manufacturer/Developer is releasing an update to their devices, The Carrier should be held responsible
    and comply with releasing them in a timely manner, or provide information as to why there is a delay.

    This, going forward, should be a priority and a demand of all Cellular customers, across all carriers and ALL Devices that carriers sell.

    The old days of having just a phone that makes phone calls are over, they are gone.
    Those days ended when the smart phone became a Major Mainstream Device.
    So you want to have a class action lawsuit to sue the carrier for not providing you a FREE update, for which they are under no obligation to provide and the lack of which does not in any way, shape or form reduce the capability of the product you purchased? Do I have that straight?

    Do you drink McDonald's coffee, too?

    (And the sad part is, our courts would probably find for the class )
    09-11-2014 12:02 AM
  19. wstanton's Avatar
    I wonder if the most effective means of pressing Verizon for transparency & speedy updates would be for a competitor to promise these and deliver ... and to contrast their respect for the customers' needs with some of our experiences of Verizon's maddening silence & slowness.
    09-11-2014 01:45 AM
  20. gernerttl's Avatar
    Oh bother...6 more pages and I lose my bet.

    Are we there yet?
    09-11-2014 01:49 AM
  21. Tepid's Avatar
    So you want to have a class action lawsuit to sue the carrier for not providing you a FREE update, for which they are under no obligation to provide and the lack of which does not in any way, shape or form reduce the capability of the product you purchased? Do I have that straight?

    Do you drink McDonald's coffee, too?

    (And the sad part is, our courts would probably find for the class )
    Let me see if I can get this straight.
    You should be perfectly happy running DOS.

    Ohhhh, that's right you would have paid for the upgrades.
    my bad, then you should perfectly fine not taking a single update (other than critical updates) on your PC also.
    I mean, they are free, you are not obligated to take them, or are you a hypocrite?

    If the Carriers were also the manufacturer/developer/sole owner of the device, you would have point.
    Since they aren't, you have no point, hence your statement is meaningless.
    09-11-2014 04:58 AM
  22. Tepid's Avatar
    I wonder if the most effective means of pressing Verizon for transparency & speedy updates would be for a competitor to promise these and deliver ... and to contrast their respect for the customers' needs with some of our experiences of Verizon's maddening silence & slowness.
    This would be nice, and it can be done, wish I had the capital and know how, and trust me, I would do it.
    09-11-2014 05:00 AM
  23. DavidinCT's Avatar
    Oh bother...6 more pages and I lose my bet.

    Are we there yet?
    I said 30 pages...so I still have a way to go.... :)

    Sad to say, not yet...
    09-11-2014 07:23 AM
  24. Chrono803's Avatar
    This would be nice, and it can be done, wish I had the capital and know how, and trust me, I would do it.
    I'm sure it would take a LOT of capital to even get close to the system Verizon has. Then again...there are quite a few smaller cell service companies around still, so I probably don't know what I'm talking about here.
    09-11-2014 07:40 AM
  25. SafeSchoolsCzar's Avatar
    A few weeks ago, I said I didn't think the Icon was getting Cyan and a few called me silly. Look at the Nokia USA Twitter feed. Their default response when people ask them about Cyan for the Icon is to say things like "The Icon is one of the few Lumias that will get the full Denim update benefits". If you search Twitter for Nokia Icon, all of their responses refer to Denim and never mention Cyan. I don't think we're getting it...I think they are waiting to roll out Denim instead which may be a few more months.
    09-11-2014 08:11 AM
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