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  1. Patriots1959's Avatar
    Mr. Stinguish
    I am submitting my resignation as official thread soothsayer. The update will not be released today. There is no explanation for the delay, there never will be an explanation. But we all know why, don't we?

    A few months ago I called support - they mentioned the Verizon warranty or TEC will not be voided if 8.1 Dev Preview is installed. Today when I called, the dev pre is still supported, however I could not get a status on the official 8.1/Cyan.

    The tech I spoke to claimed that all Mfg software updates (except for Apple) are submitted to the carriers first so carriers can make sure the updates are stable and "does not compromise 'their' network" (the tech cited the recently released botched IOS 8.01 update). Unfortunately the tech could not acknowledge whether 8.1 or cyan is being tested at all, in beta, or in final testing. She "could not" say anything which would go against the official statement - "under testing" and suggested checking the Verizon/icon support page for updates.

    Can you smell the contradiction (or is that the product of eating too much Walmart bbq pork jerky at lunch)? Why would Verizon support the Dev preview and claim the official 8.1 will not be released until thoroughly tested (if ever)? I suspect there will be no cyan or 8.1 update - Verizon is content with official 8.0 and the goons willing to shell out $19 for the Dev. So I'm stuck between paying $19 for the dev or switching to the M8 (arriving tomorrow - Asurion swap for a faulty 8x on another line - They originally offered the Icon, then the agent switched it to the M8 claiming its better than the Icon anyway - weird)
    10-02-2014 02:46 PM
  2. MikeSo's Avatar
    Why would you have to pay $19 for the Preview? It's completely free.

    As for the rest, the people at Verizon who speak to customers know no more than we do. Haven't we already established that?
    10-02-2014 02:51 PM
  3. WinAndTech's Avatar
    "You want prompt service? We have a network"
    10-02-2014 02:54 PM
  4. Patriots1959's Avatar
    Why would you have to pay $19 for the Preview? It's completely free.

    As for the rest, the people at Verizon who speak to customers know no more than we do. Haven't we already established that?
    Rats. I followed theWP forms and supersite inst. The MS site wants my $19. I don't get it.
    10-02-2014 02:55 PM
  5. MikeSo's Avatar
    Rats. I followed theWP forms and supersite inst. The MS site wants my $19. I don't get it.
    http://appstudio.windows.com/projects

    Sign up as an App Studio developer, then go to the Store on your phone and download the Preview for Developers app. Both things are free.
    10-02-2014 03:03 PM
  6. MosesByxbe's Avatar
    dev[dot]windows[dot]com/en-us/develop/devpreview
    10-02-2014 03:11 PM
  7. lylone's Avatar
    I don't get it. Send me a display update that specifically says "to improve display for current versions but especially for 8.1/cyan". Oh that is nice... Advertise 8.1 and cyan I don't have on my icon yet!!!
    10-02-2014 03:43 PM
  8. Mentat1231's Avatar
    I just got off the phone with Nokia customer service, and he promised me that it would be released before the end of October. That's really encouraging
    10-02-2014 03:59 PM
  9. JK75's Avatar
    I just got off the phone with Nokia customer service, and he promised me that it would be released before the end of October. That's really encouraging
    Did he say what year?
    10-02-2014 04:04 PM
  10. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    I just got off the phone with Nokia customer service, and he promised me that it would be released before the end of October. That's really encouraging
    Thankfully Nokia Customer Service doesn't really know anything about Verizon's release schedule.

    We better get it much sooner than the end of October...
    10-02-2014 04:52 PM
  11. antonius138's Avatar
    I would be okay with December if there was an actual confirmed date by Verizon...
    10-02-2014 04:54 PM
  12. xrs22's Avatar
    So between 8am and all of our deaths then?
    10-02-2014 05:09 PM
  13. Airlid's Avatar
    I set my accent color to "cyan". Do you think it will help?
    10-02-2014 06:03 PM
  14. Tjarren's Avatar
    Mr. Stinguish
    I am submitting my resignation as official thread soothsayer. The update will not be released today. There is no explanation for the delay, there never will be an explanation. But we all know why, don't we?

    A few months ago I called support - they mentioned the Verizon warranty or TEC will not be voided if 8.1 Dev Preview is installed. Today when I called, the dev pre is still supported, however I could not get a status on the official 8.1/Cyan.

    The tech I spoke to claimed that all Mfg software updates (except for Apple) are submitted to the carriers first so carriers can make sure the updates are stable and "does not compromise 'their' network" (the tech cited the recently released botched IOS 8.01 update). Unfortunately the tech could not acknowledge whether 8.1 or cyan is being tested at all, in beta, or in final testing. She "could not" say anything which would go against the official statement - "under testing" and suggested checking the Verizon/icon support page for updates.

    Can you smell the contradiction (or is that the product of eating too much Walmart bbq pork jerky at lunch)? Why would Verizon support the Dev preview and claim the official 8.1 will not be released until thoroughly tested (if ever)? I suspect there will be no cyan or 8.1 update - Verizon is content with official 8.0 and the goons willing to shell out $19 for the Dev. So I'm stuck between paying $19 for the dev or switching to the M8 (arriving tomorrow - Asurion swap for a faulty 8x on another line - They originally offered the Icon, then the agent switched it to the M8 claiming its better than the Icon anyway - weird)
    HTC announced that it's coming to the 8X on Verizon in late October. Does it seem feasible that Verizon would update that vintage device and not the Icon?

    I'm somewhat .. perturbed as well, but let's not lose all reasonableness and decorum here people.

    Besides, we'll probably get Ebola before 8.1 Update 1/Cyan anyway ...
    10-02-2014 06:10 PM
  15. Spirk's Avatar
    I've tracked this thread since it started and, despite the negative outlook, I got an Icon today. I got it off eBay for $285 because screw paying Verizon $500. It came to me with 8.1/Black so I'm assuming the previous owner put the DP on there. I'm enjoying it and haven't had any problems yet.

    As far as the update - I've been through this with Verizon many times all the way back to Android 2. I remember being the most annoyed when ICS was taking forever. Then it came out and we all forgot how mad we were. I've been checking this thread every day hoping for that first "It's here!" post. It's ok, I've got time.
    10-02-2014 07:16 PM
  16. nolan533's Avatar
    I set my accent color to "cyan". Do you think it will help?
    No
    I set my color to cyan and bought a cyan colored case and it hasn't helped yet.
    now I'm thinking of dying my hair cyan
    DavidinCT likes this.
    10-02-2014 07:27 PM
  17. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    No
    I set my color to cyan and bought a cyan colored case and it hasn't helped yet.
    now I'm thinking of dying my hair cyan
    Pics pls
    10-02-2014 08:40 PM
  18. Patriots1959's Avatar
    HTC announced that it's coming to the 8X on Verizon in late October. .... let's not lose all reasonableness and decorum here people...
    "The oil pressure. I forgot to check the oil pressure! When Kramer hears about this, the ***** going to hit the fan! "
    10-02-2014 09:19 PM
  19. Airlid's Avatar
    HTC announced that it's coming to the 8X on Verizon in late October. Does it seem feasible that Verizon would update that vintage device and ...
    It says 8.1 NOT cyan, right?...
    10-02-2014 09:43 PM
  20. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    It says 8.1 NOT cyan, right?...
    Of course... But for Lumia's, Cyan comes with 8.1. It's just firmware.
    Last edited by Indistinguishable; 10-02-2014 at 10:00 PM.
    10-02-2014 09:47 PM
  21. TomAd9's Avatar
    I would be okay with December if there was an actual confirmed date by Verizon...
    Maybe a man in a red suit with 8 reindeer will deliver cyan!!! santa.jpg
    10-02-2014 09:58 PM
  22. MikeSo's Avatar
    It says 8.1 NOT cyan, right?...
    They don't get Cyan since it's not a Nokia. But they will get official 8.1 and broaden the user base.
    10-02-2014 10:02 PM
  23. DavidinCT's Avatar
    "The oil pressure. I forgot to check the oil pressure! When Kramer hears about this, the ***** going to hit the fan! "


    Loved that movie, still pretty funny today...

    :)
    10-03-2014 07:53 AM
  24. savagelizards's Avatar
    If you have no idea what I'm talking about, no wonder you are so upset at Verizon. Chill, nothing you or I can do to calm this rage. Verizon is the devil until this release happens. Then it starts all over again for the next update.
    No one should be feeling rage. This isn't genocide, simply a small user base being inconvenienced by the priorities of a large corporation. Say the Serenity prayer and move on, or get some anger management counseling. We all (with the possible exception of Nokia employees) can live prosperous, fulfilling lives even if we never get Cyan.

    I am not pleased to have to wait this long, but I am not considering switching carriers, let alone ruining my day over this. 95% of my unhappiness over the Icon when I first got it has been resolved by Microsoft's excellent preview program. With 8.1 installed the Icon is the best phone I have ever owned. Sadly, Microsoft will never be able to build its Verizon market share until Verizon decides to ship the Icon with 8.1. The PFD is great but more for the tech savvy.

    Quite frankly, the odds of Microsoft being able to break the carrier gridlock by shipping unified devices on all platforms are slim at this point. About the only thing Microsoft can do to grow market share in the US is to become more vertically integrated.

    There is a company, Dish Network, that has not literally gobs of wireless spectrum, and they need a partner. Satellite service without Internet doesn't cut it in 2014, so to take advantage of their best features subscribers need to buy services from Dish's competitors. Dish has failed in attempts to buy Sprint and Clearwire. Perhaps it can partner with Microsoft.

    Otherwise, Microsoft will never have the type of market share in the US that it needs to compete. This delay with 8.1 and Cyan updates are a symptom of a bigger problem - the Lost Ballmer Decade. Clippers fans will know what I mean by that soon enough.
    SteveNoza likes this.
    10-03-2014 08:23 AM
  25. nunyazz's Avatar
    By the time the Icon gets Cyan, it will be Navy Blue from aging. haha
    jasqid likes this.
    10-03-2014 09:03 AM
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