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  1. awilliams1701's Avatar
    bitlocker = device encryption. It was first introduced in windows vista enterprise and ultimate editions.

    WM Poweruser reported yesterday that 100 carriers/phones were supposed to get Lumia Cyan that day. The article also said that the reason they hadn't gotten it earlier was that there were problems with "bitlocker" (I have no idea what that is). In any case, I can't imagine why the Icon wouldn't be one of those that got it yesterday. Maybe TC was working off similar data...?
    10-08-2014 02:02 PM
  2. awilliams1701's Avatar
    One possibility is that Verizon doesn't actually host the update, but have an agreement that microsoft/nokia won't push the update until they approve it. So its possible they could have signed off on it yesterday and then its a matter of someone flicking the switch at microsoft. I've actually suspected that it was possible that they could have "accidentally" released cyan to us without verizon's permission. Its just speculation, but I believe that everything is hosted by microsoft.
    gernerttl likes this.
    10-08-2014 02:04 PM
  3. gernerttl's Avatar
    One possibility is that Verizon doesn't actually host the update, but have an agreement that microsoft/nokia won't push the update until they approve it. So its possible they could have signed off on it yesterday and then its a matter of someone flicking the switch at microsoft. I've actually suspected that it was possible that they could have "accidentally" released cyan to us without verizon's permission. Its just speculation, but I believe that everything is hosted by microsoft.
    Good point.
    10-08-2014 02:10 PM
  4. Mentat1231's Avatar
    Link?
    Evidently I have to have 10 posts in order to start posting links.... So, I'll post the link after coming up with a reason to post 4 more times! LOL.

    In the meantime just search "Lumia Cyan 100 carriers", and it should come up.
    10-08-2014 02:10 PM
  5. Mentat1231's Avatar
    One possibility is that Verizon doesn't actually host the update, but have an agreement that microsoft/nokia won't push the update until they approve it. So its possible they could have signed off on it yesterday and then its a matter of someone flicking the switch at microsoft. I've actually suspected that it was possible that they could have "accidentally" released cyan to us without verizon's permission. Its just speculation, but I believe that everything is hosted by microsoft.
    That would make sense. So, then, who do we have to blackmail at Microsoft???
    DavidinCT likes this.
    10-08-2014 02:11 PM
  6. awilliams1701's Avatar
    MS has an odd schedule. Their patch Tuesday is usually Thursday or Friday for me. Sometimes even Sunday or Monday. If its truely in MS's hands now, I suspect we'll all see it in the next few days.

    That would make sense. So, then, who do we have to blackmail at Microsoft???
    10-08-2014 02:13 PM
  7. awilliams1701's Avatar
    I've seen a post like that, but it was a couple of weeks ago. It would be hard to know which is which unless you're talking about an old post and mistaking it for a new one.

    Evidently I have to have 10 posts in order to start posting links.... So, I'll post the link after coming up with a reason to post 4 more times! LOL.

    In the meantime just search "Lumia Cyan 100 carriers", and it should come up.
    10-08-2014 02:14 PM
  8. awilliams1701's Avatar
    I found this one dated oct 3, but its talking about DP users. Since we don't have the non DP update yet, this doesn't affect us.

    Microsoft now pushing Lumia Cyan to even more Preview for Developer phones | Windows Phone Central
    10-08-2014 02:19 PM
  9. nunyazz's Avatar
    10-08-2014 02:29 PM
  10. Surmisation's Avatar
    Dan Rubino voiced an interesting theory. He states in a podcast that since the cancellation of Goldfinger, MS had no flagships planned for the holiday season. He states HTC came to the rescue due to their lack of a plan B.

    Could the agreement be between Nokia and HTC? I hate to second guess myself, but maybe Verizon is innocent here? Perhaps they unwittingly paid HTC for exclusivity, unknowingly locked out from updates on their Nokia phones based in an agreement between MS and HTC.

    Just another wild theory...
    10-08-2014 02:42 PM
  11. DavidinCT's Avatar
    Just not looking forward to the Denim wait if Cyan is coming in the next day or so.... :(

    3:58 PM here in CT...No updates available yet
    Last edited by DavidinCT; 10-08-2014 at 02:58 PM.
    10-08-2014 02:44 PM
  12. awilliams1701's Avatar
    No at first I thought it made sense, but AT&T has it as well as most carriers around the world just not in the US. Also why would Nokia screw over their customers for a competitor and give them the opportunity to make some sales? If this agreement was in place I don't think anyone would have it.

    Dan Rubino voiced an interesting theory. He states in a podcast that since the cancellation of Goldfinger, MS had no flagships planned for the holiday season. He states HTC came to the rescue due to their lack of a plan B.

    Could the agreement be between Nokia and HTC? I hate to second guess myself, but maybe Verizon is innocent here? Perhaps they unwittingly paid HTC for exclusivity, unknowingly locked out from updates on their Nokia phones based in an agreement between MS and HTC.

    Just another wild theory...
    10-08-2014 02:57 PM
  13. Surmisation's Avatar
    Well it would explain Verizon's hostility in driving users away from WP. It would also explain the lack of advertising around the OM8FW. Or the small reveal event. Dunno, what more do we have to go off of at this point?
    10-08-2014 03:29 PM
  14. awilliams1701's Avatar
    The weird thing is I was just looking at the availability pages. In the rest of the world its about 90% available on all the various combinations, but here in the US its like 50% at best. What's even stranger is that T-Mobile has Cyan in various countries, but not the US.
    10-08-2014 03:34 PM
  15. Surmisation's Avatar
    I'm convinced Cyan references ATT colors. Debian Red is a reference for Verizon and T-Mob combined.

    MS is US centric about most of its services. Allusions to US carriers for their internal naming schemes would be unsurprising if not expected.
    10-08-2014 03:39 PM
  16. MikeSo's Avatar
    Well it would explain Verizon's hostility in driving users away from WP. It would also explain the lack of advertising around the OM8FW. Or the small reveal event. Dunno, what more do we have to go off of at this point?
    How do you mean lack of advertising? I've seen ads for the OM8FW on TV pretty much every day for the last few weeks.
    10-08-2014 03:51 PM
  17. JK75's Avatar
    I'm convinced Cyan references ATT colors. Debian Red is a reference for Verizon and T-Mob combined.
    Amber
    Black
    Cyan
    Denim

    I think that's really the only pattern here, and it's similar to Android and Ubuntu code names to name a couple - so it's not unprecedented.
    garbagedrew likes this.
    10-08-2014 03:57 PM
  18. Surmisation's Avatar
    How do you mean lack of advertising? I've seen ads for the OM8FW on TV pretty much every day for the last few weeks.
    Who's your TV provider?
    10-08-2014 04:06 PM
  19. raqball's Avatar
    I have U-Verse and I see Windows Phone commercials all the time.
    10-08-2014 04:09 PM
  20. awilliams1701's Avatar
    I've seen more cortana vs siri commercials, but I've seen HTC One for windows commercials as well.
    10-08-2014 04:28 PM
  21. wpfan2be's Avatar
    Those are Microsoft paid commercials. Not like the ones showing the iPhone and then shows "at Verizon". With their logo.
    10-08-2014 04:32 PM
  22. EdgarPre's Avatar
    I will say this, it is an intriguing situation from the perspective of corporate communication styles. Microsoft/Nokia have essentially washed their hands in communicating that they signed off on the bits and have provided them to the carrier. Apparently the only way Microsoft feels comfortable breaking radio silence is through mostly non-specific tweets indicating that additional device support is imminent. Nokia is seemingly only comfortable voicing encouragement, e.g. "Please stay tuned." Which leaves the presumed gatekeeper, Verizon Wireless. From VZW's perspective, I see multiple possibilities (as well as more than one in combination):

    1. Testing of these handsets are at the back of the priority scale due to sell-through, iPhone 6 launch...etc. (presumption)
    2. The existence of an 8.1 + Cyan exclusivity period for the One M8. (who knows)
    3. Cyan device testing is happening right now. (presumption)
    4. Denim device testing is happening right now. (wouldn't square with Verizon's historical behavior)
    5. No device testing is happening right now. (hard to fathom)

    Regardless of the combination of possibilities, Verizon's culture is apparently to say nothing...at all. Even when updates have come in the past, it seems we typically learn from a community member obsessively refreshing the device support page and finding a new PDF for the release.

    It is of course Verizon's choice to not be transparent - more than likely because somebody committed something once out of turn, the business environment changed, the something wasn't delivered, and they vowed never to do it again at some high level in the corporation. So, it is their choice, but among the many reasons why a company like Comcast has become so "hated" is a lack of transparency. Verizon seems comfortable with this attribute as part of their public perception as well. Oh well.

    Patiently waiting for an update to my Icon - because I believe in WP, not Verizon.
    Indistinguishable likes this.
    10-08-2014 04:42 PM
  23. MikeSo's Avatar
    Who's your TV provider?
    The antenna :)
    10-08-2014 04:52 PM
  24. MikeSo's Avatar
    I've seen more cortana vs siri commercials, but I've seen HTC One for windows commercials as well.
    The HTC One and Lumia 635 I've seen both use the Cortana vs Siri angle.

    Those are Microsoft paid commercials. Not like the ones showing the iPhone and then shows "at Verizon". With their logo.
    Yes I'm sure they are Microsoft WP ads, just pointing out that there are plenty of ads.
    10-08-2014 04:54 PM
  25. Surmisation's Avatar
    The antenna :)
    How can anyone stand watching commercials with all the other content consumption available today?
    Netflix, games, internet.

    Internet ads are much easier to ignore. And i watch my porn on a separate NIC on a different HDD running Linux.
    So what meaningful info are they going to gleam if they can't attach my fetishes with purchasing habits?

    But yeah. Broadcast TV is unpalatable with the commercials.
    10-08-2014 05:41 PM
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