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  1. cbreze's Avatar
    Personally, I'll take Verizon's network reliability over fast upgrades. Because, that is what I am (and every Verizon customer) is paying for.
    +1 , and that's the bottom line. Worth paying extra for. Out west Verizon rules. Anyone considering leaving for att should do a trial over there on a prepaid for a month. Judge for yourself. Unfortunately the time we really need service, is when were down a backroad someplace. Here att is crap on back roads.
    08-24-2014 12:06 PM
  2. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    Anyone considering leaving for att should do a trial over there on a prepaid for a month. Judge for yourself.
    This is a good suggestion. I would definitely do that. I live in Chicago land, both carriers seem strong here. Out in the country, Verizon probably has an advantage. But for me, that's only like 5% of the time.

    If at&t gets a 1520 successor, and Verizon doesn't. I'd really learn towards AT&T.

    Edit: By the way, Verizon, not that they're reading this thread - notice how the conversation has shifted from Cyan to switching to AT&T.
    Last edited by Indistinguishable; 08-24-2014 at 04:46 PM.
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    08-24-2014 01:56 PM
  3. DavidinCT's Avatar
    I'm telling the future.... my crystal ball is telling me, this week the Nokia ICON will get Cyan.... WOW, really ?

    Just then I took the Crystal ball and smashed it at the wall... BULLSH*T, this is Verizon we are talking about... I guess the Crystal ball does have a clue....

    :)

    Come on Verizon, get your crap together and just release this dam update....wtf..
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    08-24-2014 08:26 PM
  4. jiovine's Avatar
    This is a good suggestion. I would definitely do that. I live in Chicago land, both carriers seem strong here. Out in the country, Verizon probably has an advantage. But for me, that's only like 5% of the time.
    I switched from AT&T to Verizon and have been thus far unimpressed with the coverage. I live in NH and places where AT&T has LTE, Verizon is only showing 1X. Dropping a ton of calls. Hate the fact Verizon makes me pay for visual voicemail and cant stand it is a separate Verizon App. The only thing keeping me is the fact I travel north and verizon is the only carrier as you approach the Canadian border. Other than that, I am blaah to my experience.

    The only reason I switched carriers was to get the ICON, came from 1020 and wanted the newer hardware and form factor. Now if we can only get cyan rolled out...it will take some of the sourness away.
    08-24-2014 08:28 PM
  5. Kieta's Avatar
    This will be the week....I can feel it in my bones. Or is that rain...yeah it'll rain this week. Maybe next week then.
    08-25-2014 10:01 AM
  6. jazz70's Avatar
    I asked one of those Magic 8 Balls the question: Will Verizon release update 8.1 and cyan this week for the Icon? the answer was "My Reply is No"
    08-25-2014 11:12 AM
  7. MikeSo's Avatar
    I did a hard reset on my WP 8.1.1 (Preview) yesterday, and did a restore from backup. That reminded me of 2 things if I go and do a recovery to WP 8.0 using the Nokia Software Recovery tool (as I plan to do if Cyan comes out before Preview install fix).

    1) will that allow me to restore a backup from WP 8.1.1? Or does the backup have to be from the same or previous OS version?

    2) will it at least allow me to get backed up text (SMS) messages back into 8.0 (if I do a fresh start after restore)? Since this shouldn't be OS version dependent, I hope that's the case. This is a more pressing concern.

    Anyone know?
    Last edited by MikeSo; 08-25-2014 at 12:01 PM.
    08-25-2014 11:19 AM
  8. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    Walk into the Verizon store like...

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    08-25-2014 11:35 AM
  9. Kieta's Avatar
    I did a hard reset on my WP 8.1.1 (Preview) yesterday, and did a restore from backup. That reminded me of 2 things if I go and do a recovery to WP 8.0 using the Nokia Software Recovery tool (as I plan to do if Cyan comes out before Preview install fix).

    1) will that allow me to restore a backup from WP 8.1.1? Or does the backup have to be from the same or previous OS version?

    2) will it at least allow me to get backed up text (SMS) messages back into 8.0? Since this shouldn't be OS version dependent, I hope that's the case. This is a more pressing concern.

    Anyone know?
    The last time I went back to 8.0 and did a restore, it restored from my last 8.0 backup which was like 6 months prior. I freaked out at first but then remembered my current backup was under 8.1.
    08-25-2014 11:45 AM
  10. MikeSo's Avatar
    The last time I went back to 8.0 and did a restore, it restored from my last 8.0 backup which was like 6 months prior. I freaked out at first but then remembered my current backup was under 8.1.
    Were you able to get text messages back?
    Can text messages be restored even if after the hard reset you choose to start fresh? They are independent of the main backup, right?
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    08-25-2014 12:00 PM
  11. Kieta's Avatar
    Were you able to get text messages back?
    Can text messages be restored even if after the hard reset you choose to start fresh? They are independent of the main backup, right?
    Yes, I did get them back after I enrolled back in DP then did a restore I got my current text messages back. So if you are on DP 8.1 and do a rollback to 8.0 and try to restore it will restore whatever your last 8.0 back was not your 8.1 backup.
    08-25-2014 01:32 PM
  12. Marconis4's Avatar
    Why? Probably the top two windows phones on the market right now are the Icon and the HTC One, both of which are only with Verizon right now.
    I like having options. Seems like AT&T gets nearly every Nokia device that is released (correct me if I am wrong), while Verizon has what, 3? It's absurd. But what everyone is saying on here is making me shy away from them due to their service.
    08-25-2014 09:00 PM
  13. orangeman34's Avatar
    I like having options. Seems like AT&T gets nearly every Nokia device that is released (correct me if I am wrong), while Verizon has what, 3? It's absurd. But what everyone is saying on here is making me shy away from them due to their service.

    There are four WP you can get on Verizon right now. Icon, HTC One, Samsung Ativ SE, Lumia 928
    08-25-2014 09:03 PM
  14. Tjarren's Avatar
    There are four WP you can get on Verizon right now. Icon, HTC One, Samsung Ativ SE, Lumia 928
    Seriously, it's turning into the app situation. How many phones do you actually need? You're only gonna buy one, so how is 3 (or, as you actually pointed out, the number is 4) not enough?

    Verizon has a good selection of WP's available. The only thing they are missing are the niche devices, such as the 1520/1320 (phablet) and 1020 (THE cameraphone). Other than that, what more could you want?

    There was a time that AT&T was the place to be for WP's, unquestionably. But that's the past. Verizon has finally caught up.
    08-26-2014 01:32 AM
  15. Brenda Smeby's Avatar
    I suspect VZW isn't going to release Cyan until they hit a sales target on the HTC One. That has been their MO with android phones, seems likely for WP phones too.
    08-26-2014 03:42 AM
  16. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    Seriously, it's turning into the app situation. How many phones do you actually need? You're only gonna buy one, so how is 3 (or, as you actually pointed out, the number is 4) not enough?

    Verizon has a good selection of WP's available. The only thing they are missing are the niche devices, such as the 1520/1320 (phablet) and 1020 (THE cameraphone). Other than that, what more could you want?

    There was a time that AT&T was the place to be for WP's, unquestionably. But that's the past. Verizon has finally caught up.
    It really comes down to how many of these circuses you've been through with Verizon.

    When wp7 first came out, we wanted Samsung & Nokia WP7's. Where were they? AT&T.

    When WP8 came out, we wanted the Nokia Lumia 920. Where was it? AT&T.

    When the greatest smart phone camera ever, the Nokia Lumia 1020 came out, we of course wanted it. Where was it? AT&T.

    When the first (and only) WP8 phone/tablet, Nokia Lumia 1520 came out, we wanted it. Where was it? AT&T.

    Am I glad that we got the first shot at the Icon/930? YES! But those memories are still fresh. And this update situation has refreshed the sour taste that has been left in our mouths time and time again.

    Edit: And it doesn't help that some of us, myself included, would still rather have the Nokia Lumia 1520.3.
    Last edited by Indistinguishable; 08-26-2014 at 06:29 AM.
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    08-26-2014 05:54 AM
  17. AlastorX50's Avatar
    I suspect VZW isn't going to release Cyan until they hit a sales target on the HTC One. That has been their MO with android phones, seems likely for WP phones too.
    I feel a PR move while they are rolling out VoLTE to existing phones, Cyan will be released within those coming weeks.
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    08-26-2014 12:01 PM
  18. SafeSchoolsCzar's Avatar
    I don't think we'll get it. I specifically remember when I ordered my Icon, it said it was advertised as 8.1 ready, but they've since removed that language. Sprint & T-Mobile has specifically confirmed it's coming but VZW just says "No news yet." I think they paid to get the M8 and not rolling out updates is one way to get people to choose it.
    08-26-2014 12:16 PM
  19. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    I don't think we'll get it. I specifically remember when I ordered my Icon, it said it was advertised as 8.1 ready, but they've since removed that language. Sprint & T-Mobile has specifically confirmed it's coming but VZW just says "No news yet." I think they paid to get the M8 and not rolling out updates is one way to get people to choose it.
    Don't be silly. It's coming. It just comes down to priorities. WP updates are not high on the list, but they are on the list.
    08-26-2014 01:38 PM
  20. Josh Reynolds2's Avatar
    Don't be silly. It's coming. It just comes down to priorities. WP updates are not high on the list, but they are on the list.
    I was just going to say that VW really has nothing to gain by not releasing it. I guess one could make the case that they want to push HTC sales with 8.1 on it but how many people are really going to ditch their Icon just for the update, especially if they are in a contract with no upgrades?

    Oh they will release it. After that, they will boast about their flagship Windows Phone having 8.1.
    08-26-2014 02:50 PM
  21. JamesJonesWI's Avatar
    VZW, AT&T, etc. Why carrier specific variants? Didn't anyone learn their lesson from the original iPhone? I guess when your a wireless carrier and you can't offer any less headache, better pricing than your main competitors people will choose you based on hardware. Seems pretty weak though. These exclusives are just silly and probably more expensive in the long run to produce, market and support.

    And WHERE'S MY UPDATE!!!! I have one of the newest Lumia's on the Market and I'm in the US. It seems every 14 y.o. with a 3 year old device in India has the new software.

    C'mon man.
    08-26-2014 03:19 PM
  22. SafeSchoolsCzar's Avatar
    VZW, AT&T, etc. Why carrier specific variants? Didn't anyone learn their lesson from the original iPhone? I guess when your a wireless carrier and you can't offer any less headache, better pricing than your main competitors people will choose you based on hardware. Seems pretty weak though. These exclusives are just silly and probably more expensive in the long run to produce, market and support.

    And WHERE'S MY UPDATE!!!! I have one of the newest Lumia's on the Market and I'm in the US. It seems every 14 y.o. with a 3 year old device in India has the new software.

    C'mon man.
    I agree with you James, iPhones are updated by the manufacturer, why can't MS have the same pull?
    08-26-2014 06:45 PM
  23. jiovine's Avatar
    I wonder if this will help expedite the process: Lumia Cyan update now live for AT&T Lumia 1020 and 1520 Preview users | Windows Phone Central

    Kinda makes sense if this is what Verizon was waiting for a fix...

    moaning and groaning that I left AT&T for the ICON.
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    08-26-2014 06:47 PM
  24. gernerttl's Avatar
    I agree with you James, iPhones are updated by the manufacturer, why can't MS have the same pull?
    It's because Apple was really aggressive in its negotiations with AT&T; later Verizon, Sprint, and T-Mobile. At the same time, Microsoft was still focused on Windows and Office and was getting a lot of bad PR because of Vista. Which, unfortunately, took a lot of resources to fix with Windows 7. In other words, Ballmer was behind the eight ball BIG TIME. Which Apple capitalized on.

    And even though Android is the leading OS. It is so fractured that the carriers are kind of lukewarm to new Android updates.
    08-26-2014 10:27 PM
  25. gernerttl's Avatar
    I wonder if this will help expedite the process: Lumia Cyan update now live for AT&T Lumia 1020 and 1520 Preview users | Windows Phone Central

    Kinda makes sense if this is what Verizon was waiting for a fix...

    moaning and groaning that I left AT&T for the ICON.
    Verizon will do what is called a "soak test" leading up to the OTA. It has its own set of "preview users" (not all of them VZW employees) and they will get the update first to see how everything goes make tweaks as needed, then pump out the update. I just don't know how to become one. :/
    08-26-2014 10:33 PM
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