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  1. theefman's Avatar
    Have to say, I don't understand the carrier loyalty some people seem to have. Can't be everyone that lives in an area where only Verizon has service so why stay when its like finding hens teeth to get this carrier to support the phone YOU bought? I remember right from WP7 when one if their execs dissed WP, then they carried one of the worst devices when they eventually got one, now its getting exclusives and doing their damnest not to sell them yet people still choose them? What's the attraction that you would stand for such bs?
    aximtreo likes this.
    10-10-2014 11:29 AM
  2. MikeSo's Avatar
    Have to say, I don't understand the carrier loyalty some people seem to have. Can't be everyone that lives in an area where only Verizon has service
    Seems to be a lot of us though. I've used all 4 carriers in the last 2 years and Verizon is by far the best. AT&T was a sort of close second, Sprint third and T-Mobile a distant fourth. Of course, T-Mobile had the best plan for my need. :/ But with Verizon having a $60 2GB data/unlimited t&t now that I'm on, there is no competition which is the best. I guess they really take advantage fo that.
    10-10-2014 11:31 AM
  3. awilliams1701's Avatar
    It used to be true, but fortunately AT&T made a deal to put an antenna on our water tower. My neighbors have confirmed that AT&T is really good now. Thank God I have options.

    Have to say, I don't understand the carrier loyalty some people seem to have. Can't be everyone that lives in an area where only Verizon has service
    10-10-2014 11:34 AM
  4. MikeSo's Avatar
    Fun to see on twitter the people asking VZWSupport questions (saw awilliams asking a few minutes ago :)). Clearly the only answer they will give is links to their own webpages which say nothing.
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    10-10-2014 11:39 AM
  5. cbreze's Avatar
    Have to say, I don't understand the carrier loyalty some people seem to have. Can't be everyone that lives in an area where only Verizon has service so why stay
    It's the BFE locations where Verizon coverage blows me away simply by being there. ATT can't seem to measure up in that regard. If your not straying that far off the main highways of life AT&T is fine, but go into the deeper backcountry and need a phone in an emergency and I'd not put my faith in AT&T . This is the reason I use Verizon and really the main and only reason. Unbeatable coverage in the backwoods and mountains.
    MikeSo and gernerttl like this.
    10-10-2014 11:41 AM
  6. raqball's Avatar
    Have to say, I don't understand the carrier loyalty some people seem to have. Can't be everyone that lives in an area where only Verizon has service so why stay when its like finding hens teeth to get this carrier to support the phone YOU bought? I remember right from WP7 when one if their execs dissed WP, then they carried one of the worst devices when they eventually got one, now its getting exclusives and doing their damnest not to sell them yet people still choose them? What's the attraction that you would stand for such bs?
    The grass is not always greener on the other side..

    I have an AT&T account right now with 3 lines on a family plan and I have a Verizon account with one line on it.. I want to dump AT&T once those 3 lines are off contract which is next month.. Sprint is NOT an option and while I do like T-Mobile's prices and plans their coverage is horrible..

    That leaves AT&T and Verizon as the only viable options for many.. I am here to tell you that AT&T is better in some things than Verizon and worse in others.. Choose your poison!

    I will probably switch my AT&T family plan phones to Verizon once the contracts are up..

    Like I said, the grass is not always greener on the other side..
    Neil Hinkle, jazz70 and upnort like this.
    10-10-2014 11:42 AM
  7. Heavens_Angel26's Avatar
    I do plan on making a switch to AT&T, after all, the reason why I got the Icon because I wanted to get the Lumia 1520. Verizon and its sales people just doesn't understand us on why we love Windows Phone.....
    10-10-2014 11:48 AM
  8. cbreze's Avatar
    The grass is not always greener on the other side..
    I am here to tell you that AT&T is better in some things than Verizon and worse in others.. Choose your poison!
    +1.. this is the simple reality of the situation.
    MikeSo likes this.
    10-10-2014 11:52 AM
  9. theefman's Avatar
    The grass is not always greener on the other side..

    I have an AT&T account right now with 3 lines on a family plan and I have a Verizon account with one line on it.. I want to dump AT&T once those 3 lines are off contract which is next month.. Sprint is NOT an option and while I do like T-Mobile's prices and plans their coverage is horrible..

    That leaves AT&T and Verizon as the only viable options for many.. I am here to tell you that AT&T is better in some things than Verizon and worse in others.. Choose your poison!

    I will probably switch my AT&T family plan phones to Verizon once the contracts are up..

    Like I said, the grass is not always greener on the other side..
    There will always be situations where only Verizon will work but I cant see that being the case for all WP/Icon users. And I personally have used att and they were pretty good, had no complaints, even though I'm now on Tmobile with a 1520.3. However as cbreze mentioned, I have been to areas for weekend getaways and didnt have a signal on my Tmo phone and only the landlady's Verizon phone worked so there's merit there.

    But as I said, all WP users cant be in that situation and if I was in their shoes I wouldnt hesitate to dump Verizon. There's no argument, they dont give a toss about WP and their WP users apart from the Icon exclusive they have there's no reason anyone should stick with them if they can make a move to att, who have more Lumia WP devices and have updated all of them to Cyan.
    aximtreo likes this.
    10-10-2014 12:03 PM
  10. grafixguy#AC's Avatar
    The thing I don't get is why Verizon wants an exclusive on a flagship phone they have no intention of supporting or promoting. This whole thing is a giant fustercluck.
    10-10-2014 12:12 PM
  11. awilliams1701's Avatar
    If they hate us why not let MS release anything they want?
    10-10-2014 12:17 PM
  12. Neil Hinkle's Avatar
    Have to say, I don't understand the carrier loyalty some people seem to have. Can't be everyone that lives in an area where only Verizon has service so why stay when its like finding hens teeth to get this carrier to support the phone YOU bought? I remember right from WP7 when one if their execs dissed WP, then they carried one of the worst devices when they eventually got one, now its getting exclusives and doing their damnest not to sell them yet people still choose them? What's the attraction that you would stand for such bs?
    The main reason a lot of people are sticking with Verizon is because of grandfathered in unlimited data. When they finally take that away then I know I'll have no qualms about jumping ship.
    Tjarren likes this.
    10-10-2014 12:21 PM
  13. CodeGunnerDevelopment's Avatar
    I myself hate Verizon with a passion, but as one of the people that owns property and hunts in BFE parts of Ohio I and my family needs Verizon because they are the only ones that will work on the ground out there. AT&T works out there, but you have to be 20+ feet in the air in order to get any kind of signal at all. I use Verizon because I don't feel like having to climb in my treestand every time I need to send a text or make a phone call. Unfortunately though that is the only reason why I even tolerate Verizon. Of course I don't tell them that fact.
    CGD
    10-10-2014 12:34 PM
  14. anon(247108)'s Avatar
    So, have been watching this thread over the past couple of days as I just bought my iCon three days ago. I have 11 days to decide whether to keep it or go to the HTC M8. The only thing irritating me about the phone is the lack of the tap to open or whatever feature. Truth is, if I did not know about Cyan, I can't think of single reason I would be concerned about this phone except for this retirement issue. I knew full well the phone did not have an SD card, as I use One Drive with my 1 TB limit extensively for photos and music. I really like the heft of the phone, and am agnostic about the camera. I have it set up the way I like, and it is on the Asurion plan (boy have I had occasion to use that one lately). Am I missing some compelling reason to run to my local VZ store and exchange it for an M8?
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    10-10-2014 12:58 PM
  15. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    10-10-2014 12:58 PM
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    10-10-2014 01:40 PM
  17. prlundberg's Avatar
    So, have been watching this thread over the past couple of days as I just bought my iCon three days ago. I have 11 days to decide whether to keep it or go to the HTC M8. The only thing irritating me about the phone is the lack of the tap to open or whatever feature. Truth is, if I did not know about Cyan, I can't think of single reason I would be concerned about this phone except for this retirement issue. I knew full well the phone did not have an SD card, as I use One Drive with my 1 TB limit extensively for photos and music. I really like the heft of the phone, and am agnostic about the camera. I have it set up the way I like, and it is on the Asurion plan (boy have I had occasion to use that one lately). Am I missing some compelling reason to run to my local VZ store and exchange it for an M8?
    Cortana, Swype, Miracast, LE Bluetooth come to mind. I think but am not positive the M8 does all that. All pretty important, at least to me. The main things the Icon has over the M8 are the camera and Nokia apps, so if you don't care about that I don't see much reason to keep the Icon.
    10-10-2014 01:52 PM
  18. DavidinCT's Avatar
    I guess there is nothing do here now.... :(

    About the only thing going on is the ******** about Verizon and how people are going to change to a new carrier, it really stinks Verizon has some of us by the balls, If we leave, we risk getting poor coverage, or over billing (AT&T just paid out 100 mil)...If we stay with Verizon we get poor support for Windows Phone

    I guess the waiting game is on....again, not just for Cyan/Denim, it's to see if this phone was discontinued officially, or like others have said, a updated model comes in with Cyan/Denim already installed...

    Just wish Verizon would publicly say something.....

    For people saying that there is no right to file a class action lawsuit, yea, I think we have a right. There is certain level of support you expect when spending $500+ on a phone or Signing a 2 year contract on a High end phone. To discontinue support for a device in such a short time is unacceptable to me and it should be for EVERYONE who purchases a phone.

    It sucks waiting but, by December 1st I expect to have Denim on my phone, if not, I feel we need to bring legal action against Verizon for lack of support. In this lawsuit, I would expect the phone to be fully updated or a full refund for the cost of the phone.

    For everyone with a modern cell phone, something should be done about this.
    10-10-2014 02:07 PM
  19. anywhereanytime's Avatar
    Is there yet an "official announcement" form either Verizon or Microsoft that the ICON "has been retired" and NO replacement?
    wstanton likes this.
    10-10-2014 02:09 PM
  20. Guytronic's Avatar
    Closed...
    Last edited by Guytronic; 10-11-2014 at 05:50 PM.
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