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  1. nikholaspappas's Avatar
    Does anyone know if the Icon supports Quick Charge 2.0 with the 8.1 Dev Preview GDR 1 Update?
    08-05-2014 03:09 PM
  2. AlastorX50's Avatar
    08-05-2014 04:57 PM
  3. nikholaspappas's Avatar
    8.1 GDR1 Enables it. My question is, is the Icon Compatible?

    It is listed as a feature in this article.

    Microsoft reveals Update 1 for Windows Phone 8.1, due next week for Preview users | Windows Phone Central

    "Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 support for Snapdragon 800 processor is included, letting Windows Phone users with the appropriate chipset take advantage Qualcomm's rapid, high voltage USB charging. Consequently, charging times should be upwards of 75% faster. Citing Qualcomm's data for a 3300 mAh battery, you can see the difference in the table below:"

    I understand what it is. I want to know if 8.1 GDR1 enabled it, or if it will need to be a Firmware update, or if the Icon is truly compatible at all.
    08-05-2014 05:47 PM
  4. masaga91's Avatar
    So far for me it seems is enabled, charging my phone with my 920 charger from 33% to 100% took about 2:30 hours and charging it with the icon charger from 24% to 100% took about 1:20
    08-05-2014 07:49 PM
  5. Tepid's Avatar
    08-05-2014 08:06 PM
  6. salmanahmad's Avatar
    Having a Snapdragon 800 processor does not ensure that your device will get quick charge, just saying.

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
    08-06-2014 10:33 AM
  7. nikholaspappas's Avatar
    Having a Snapdragon 800 processor does not ensure that your device will get quick charge, just saying.

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
    That is why I am asking the question
    08-06-2014 10:51 AM
  8. masaga91's Avatar
    Well apparently the icon does have quick charge
    JamesPTao likes this.
    08-06-2014 09:39 PM
  9. AlastorX50's Avatar
    That is why I am asking the question
    Having a Snapdragon 800 processor does not ensure that your device will get quick charge, just saying.

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
    It says it adds support, but a firmware update might be needed to activate the feature. The same is said for the HTC One, it is said it will be provided by a firmware update as the OS supports it.

    We anticipate that devices and wall chargers with Quick Charge 2.0 will be available for purchase by early 2014; all smartphones and tablets with a Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 processor will have Quick Charge 2.0. Snapdragon 800 processors are an entire system-on-a-chip and feature a CPU, GPU, DSP, LTE Modem and much more, enabling UltraHD video, high-end 3D gaming, 7.1 surround sound, and up to 55 Megapixel image captures, so being able to quick charge means less time charging and more time doing!

    Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0: Less Time Charging, More Time Doing [UPDATED] | Qualcomm
    Last edited by AlastorX50; 08-06-2014 at 10:22 PM. Reason: Added Clarification
    08-06-2014 10:19 PM
  10. nikholaspappas's Avatar
    It says it adds support, but a firmware update might be needed to activate the feature. The same is said for the HTC One, it is said it will be provided by a firmware update as the OS supports it.

    We anticipate that devices and wall chargers with Quick Charge 2.0 will be available for purchase by early 2014; all smartphones and tablets with a Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 processor will have Quick Charge 2.0. Snapdragon 800 processors are an entire system-on-a-chip and feature a CPU, GPU, DSP, LTE Modem and much more, enabling UltraHD video, high-end 3D gaming, 7.1 surround sound, and up to 55 Megapixel image captures, so being able to quick charge means less time charging and more time doing!

    Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0: Less Time Charging, More Time Doing [UPDATED] | Qualcomm

    That is all fine and dandy. But that does not answer my question.

    Does anyone know for sure if 8.1 GDR 1 enabled quick charge, or if it will require a firmware update, or if it will be on the icon at all? We can speculate all day, but does anyone actually know?
    08-07-2014 11:20 AM
  11. AlastorX50's Avatar
    That is all fine and dandy. But that does not answer my question.

    Does anyone know for sure if 8.1 GDR 1 enabled quick charge, or if it will require a firmware update, or if it will be on the icon at all? We can speculate all day, but does anyone actually know?
    Did you even read my reply? Yes the icon supports it. Yes quick charge 2.0 will come to the icon and all other lumias that carry the Snapdragon 800 processor.

    I'm still looking if the OS enabled it or simply added support.
    08-07-2014 03:22 PM
  12. nikholaspappas's Avatar
    Did you even read my reply? Yes the icon supports it. Yes quick charge 2.0 will come to the icon and all other lumias that carry the Snapdragon 800 processor.

    I'm still looking if the OS enabled it or simply added support.
    Yes, I read your reply. That is literally why I asked "Does anyone know for sure if 8.1 GDR 1 enabled quick charge, or if it will require a firmware update, or if it will be on the icon at all? We can speculate all day, but does anyone actually know" The Key part in that is the "Actually Know" part

    I asked If Its is "ENABLED". Your response was "It says it adds support, but a firmware update might be needed to activate the feature"

    That response does not say that it is enabled or not, only that it is now supported and may be enabled, or may not be, and may need a firmware update. So my question still stands

    Does anyone KNOW for SURE if 8.1 GDR 1 enabled quick charge(I know the support is there, but is it Enabled), or if it will require a firmware update, or if it will be ENABLED(not just supported) on the icon at all?
    08-07-2014 03:28 PM
  13. AlastorX50's Avatar
    Yes, I read your reply. That is literally why I asked "Does anyone know for sure if 8.1 GDR 1 enabled quick charge, or if it will require a firmware update, or if it will be on the icon at all? We can speculate all day, but does anyone actually know" The Key part in that is the "Actually Know" part

    I asked If Its is "ENABLED". Your response was "It says it adds support, but a firmware update might be needed to activate the feature"

    That response does not say that it is enabled or not, only that it is now supported and may be enabled, or may not be, and may need a firmware update. So my question still stands

    Does anyone KNOW for SURE if 8.1 GDR 1 enabled quick charge(I know the support is there, but is it Enabled), or if it will require a firmware update, or if it will be ENABLED(not just supported) on the icon at all?
    Looks like the OS enabled it for any phone with certain processors including the 800, 600 and 400 series processors.

    Charge away, but also you should invest in a quick charge 2.0 charger to see the added benefit.

    https://dev.windowsphone.com/en-US/O...onents/Battery
    08-07-2014 07:25 PM
  14. DavidinCT's Avatar
    Does this work with QI/Wireless charging or is the USB cable only ?

    Only place I plug in my phone is when I am in the car, otherwise I have wireless chargers everywhere (I have 4 now, even keep one in my travel bag)
    08-07-2014 08:10 PM
  15. AlastorX50's Avatar
    Does this work with QI/Wireless charging or is the USB cable only ?

    Only place I plug in my phone is when I am in the car, otherwise I have wireless chargers everywhere (I have 4 now, even keep one in my travel bag)
    I've been reading up on the Qi Wireless charging standard and man oh man they don't make it easy to get a direct answer.
    I think it does work since Qi has variable outputs, but i couldn't find any information on if it goes up to 9v. Hopefully it does and the new Qi standard is just adding range benefits.

    Updated Qi wireless charging means your phones won't have to be directly touching the charger | Windows Phone Central
    08-07-2014 10:00 PM
  16. masaga91's Avatar
    The icon charger supports quick charge, I've seen a big difference before and after the update
    08-07-2014 10:45 PM
  17. AlastorX50's Avatar
    The icon charger supports quick charge, I've seen a big difference before and after the update
    With the standard icon charger it only supports quick charge 1.0 due to it only supplying the phone 5v. Quick charge 2.0 requires a charger with 9v-12v.

    They might of changed the charging algorithms for 1.0 in 8.1 update 1 because I agree that the charge is alot faster then before.
    08-08-2014 06:44 AM
  18. nikholaspappas's Avatar
    Looks like the OS enabled it for any phone with certain processors including the 800, 600 and 400 series processors.

    Charge away, but also you should invest in a quick charge 2.0 charger to see the added benefit.

    https://dev.windowsphone.com/en-US/O...onents/Battery
    Thank you. From that page I was able to find this

    https://dev.windowsphone.com/en-US/O...ower_subsystem

    It specifically states

    "High Voltage Dedicated Charging Port (HVDCP) charging is supported on phones that use the MSM8974Pro and MSM8926 applications processor."

    HVDCP is part of the Quick Charge 2.0 standard

    Only question now is... Where can I get a charger that is 2.0 certified?
    08-08-2014 11:37 AM
  19. nikholaspappas's Avatar
    For reference, the Icon uses the MSM8974pro
    08-08-2014 11:40 AM
  20. DavidinCT's Avatar
    I've been reading up on the Qi Wireless charging standard and man oh man they don't make it easy to get a direct answer.
    I think it does work since Qi has variable outputs, but i couldn't find any information on if it goes up to 9v. Hopefully it does and the new Qi standard is just adding range benefits.

    Updated Qi wireless charging means your phones won't have to be directly touching the charger | Windows Phone Central
    Yea, that is a newly announced standard of QI charging 1.2....I'm sure the ICON does not support it...( will be compatible but, not in the 1.2 standard, so it falls back to the current standard)
    08-08-2014 07:48 PM
  21. JamesPTao's Avatar
    Yea, that is a newly announced standard of QI charging 1.2....I'm sure the ICON does not support it...( will be compatible but, not in the 1.2 standard, so it falls back to the current standard)
    It is backward compatible. You wont get as much range as a new one but there isn't much difference it is still a big increase on difference. Not an opinion, has been confirmed.
    08-08-2014 08:08 PM
  22. JamesPTao's Avatar
    Having a Snapdragon 800 processor does not ensure that your device will get quick charge, just saying.

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
    It actually does mean that. That is the point of the update. After it as long as you have an 800 or newer chip it will work.
    08-08-2014 08:10 PM
  23. DavidinCT's Avatar
    It is backward compatible. You wont get as much range as a new one but there isn't much difference it is still a big increase on difference. Not an opinion, has been confirmed.
    Yea, time to get a new phone, as the new chargers can go a range, so that means I can put it inside devices with out cutting out the bottom of my nightstand or office desk...

    but, dam, I just got the ICON....wtf ? :(
    08-08-2014 08:11 PM
  24. JamesPTao's Avatar
    Yea, time to get a new phone, as the new chargers can go a range, so that means I can put it inside devices with out cutting out the bottom of my nightstand or office desk...

    but, dam, I just got the ICON....wtf ? :(
    Look at the range it designates for backward compatibility it is still very generous and should allow you to do this with the icon.
    08-08-2014 08:15 PM
  25. DavidinCT's Avatar
    Look at the range it designates for backward compatibility it is still very generous and should allow you to do this with the icon.
    Is there actually any phones that have or chargers that are QI 1.2 yet anyway ? I'm sure it's a little time away....
    08-08-2014 08:24 PM
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