09-02-2014 08:53 PM
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  1. BigCTM's Avatar
    This is not correct. You cannot use the excellent Nokia apps on the M8. The M8 does not have wireless charging. I use this every day. It only has 2 microphones compared with 4 for the Icon. This makes a difference in video recording. For those that like physical controls, the M8 has none. The screens are different too. Some like AMOLED like the Icon and others like LCD like the M8. To me, the only thing the M8 has over the Icon is the slightly better processor, IR Blaster, Windows Phone 8.1 temporarily (hopefully), micro sd card and slightly better battery life.

    The Icon is still a very good phone. But the only thing it has going for it over the M8 now is the camera.
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    08-26-2014 01:43 PM
  2. anon(5383410)'s Avatar
    Qi wireless charging is a total gimmick, the camera on the icon is obviously better but unless you're a professional photographer you won't be disappointed.

    The M8 has better sound, is faster, lighter, has better battery life and the ability to expand storage. Not to mention it's sexier.


    This is coming from someone who LOVED my Icon and struggled to part
    with it. The M8 is the superior device.
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    08-26-2014 02:00 PM
  3. BigCTM's Avatar
    Superior is in the eye of the beholder. The M8 is not even close to being good enough to make me give up my Icon. Yes it is better in some areas but worse in others.

    Qi wireless charging is a total gimmick, the camera on the icon is obviously better but unless you're a professional photographer you won't be disappointed.

    The M8 has better sound, is faster, lighter, has better battery life and the ability to expand storage. Not to mention it's sexier.


    This is coming from someone who LOVED my Icon and struggled to part
    with it. The M8 is the superior device.
    08-26-2014 02:07 PM
  4. MikeLip's Avatar
    Qi wireless charging is a total gimmick, the camera on the icon is obviously better but unless you're a professional photographer you won't be disappointed.

    The M8 has better sound, is faster, lighter, has better battery life and the ability to expand storage. Not to mention it's sexier.


    This is coming from someone who LOVED my Icon and struggled to part
    with it. The M8 is the superior device.
    I'll go along with SOME of that :) Qi rocks. I have one at my desk at work and I just put the phone down on it whenever it's not in use. It's always topped up. Admittedly it's not essential. But it sure is nice to have.
    08-26-2014 02:13 PM
  5. Josh Reynolds2's Avatar
    I'll go along with SOME of that :) Qi rocks. I have one at my desk at work and I just put the phone down on it whenever it's not in use. It's always topped up. Admittedly it's not essential. But it sure is nice to have.
    Agreed. Anyone who bashes wireless charging will be sorry when that USB port goes. For me its a total fail safe. As far as needing USB to connect to a PC, one could always just upload/download to and from Onedrive and transfer that way.
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    08-26-2014 02:59 PM
  6. DavidinCT's Avatar
    Qi wireless charging is a total gimmick.
    Really ? I take it you never really used it. They days of hunting for a USB cable in the darkness are gone for me....drop my phone on the charger and it lights up, then I am good.

    I have 4 QI chargers take them when I travel and everything else. Just one of those features that I could not live without after having 3 phones with it.... (HTC 8X, 928 and ICON)....

    I guess to each their own...
    08-27-2014 09:15 AM
  7. psiu_glen's Avatar
    Camera is one of my first criteria for a phone now, wireless charging is up there too.

    .1 GHz speed increase is a gimmick fo' sho though! (comparing Icon to 928 the Icon barely shows any advantages...except when running benchmarks)
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    08-27-2014 12:05 PM
  8. anon(5383410)'s Avatar
    Really ? I take it you never really used it. They days of hunting for a USB cable in the darkness are gone for me....drop my phone on the charger and it lights up, then I am good.

    I have 4 QI chargers take them when I travel and everything else. Just one of those features that I could not live without after having 3 phones with it.... (HTC 8X, 928 and ICON)....

    I guess to each their own...
    Why would you take it j never really used it? I said right in my post I owned an Icon. The only real difference between a Nokia charging plate and a plugin charger is that you don't actually have to plug the phone in the charger. It still has to be in direct proximity of the charger. Not to mention they charge slow. Until they start releasing chargers that operate like wireless routers then yes, it's a gimmick.
    08-29-2014 03:37 AM
  9. psiu_glen's Avatar
    Why would you take it j never really used it? I said right in my post I owned an Icon. The only real difference between a Nokia charging plate and a plugin charger is that you don't actually have to plug the phone in the charger. It still has to be in direct proximity of the charger. Not to mention they charge slow. Until they start releasing chargers that operate like wireless routers then yes, it's a gimmick.
    I believe he was saying you had never really used wireless charging.

    They don't charge appreciably slower for me -- with the new high power USB standards that's likely to change a bit.

    Currently though, the batteries are big enough that it's going to take a good while to charge from empty to full regardless.

    Also, I've never met a charging port that didn't start to loosen up over the years.

    But you don't have to use it. But calling it a gimmick makes about as much as sense as calling a 5" 1080p screen a gimmick, or quad core processors in mobile, or more than 640K of RAM on the desktop...
    08-29-2014 07:33 AM
  10. cbreze's Avatar
    The M8 has better sound, is faster, lighter, has better battery life and the ability to expand storage. Not to mention it's sexier.
    This is coming from someone who LOVED my Icon and struggled to part
    with it. The M8 is the superior device.
    +1^
    Icon is top "Lumia" device on Verizon, but M8 is the better device. I also had trouble leaving the icon until I went on complete auto pilot impulse and just cut the cord and did it. Just the very reasons mentioned by offbeatbop above says a lot. The icon is an awesome device no doubt but only out shines the M8 in one aspect, camera. No other way and when considered pluses and minuses as an average M8 comes out a clear winner no matter how you slice it. As for its lack of Qi charging, as a rule its not needed anyway because the battery goes all day and more so, only needing a nightly charge. Sorry icon, but you've slipped to 2nd place.
    08-29-2014 11:07 AM
  11. psiu_glen's Avatar
    +1^
    Icon is top "Lumia" device on Verizon, but M8 is the better device. I also had trouble leaving the icon until I went on complete auto pilot impulse and just cut the cord and did it. Just the very reasons mentioned by offbeatbop above says a lot. The icon is an awesome device no doubt but only out shines the M8 in one aspect, camera. No other way and when considered pluses and minuses as an average M8 comes out a clear winner no matter how you slice it. As for its lack of Qi charging, as a rule its not needed anyway because the battery goes all day and more so, only needing a nightly charge. Sorry icon, but you've slipped to 2nd place.
    Sweet jeebus, what is with this thread in general? Neither phone is perfect, anyone suggesting otherwise is being intentionally obstinate.

    No Qi. No shutter button. 4 megapixel camera. As far as I can tell, the IR blaster requires you to have some sort of TV service...versus being able to just program in my TV to control it (cord cutter). LCD display which is great, but having boarded the AMOLED train, I dunno. For me, that all hurts the appeal.

    Point being it's great to have choices and pretty sure both phones are great. Trying to choose a universally "better" phone is a fool's errand...
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    08-29-2014 11:20 AM
  12. cbreze's Avatar
    Sweet jeebus, what is with this thread in general? Neither phone is perfect, anyone suggesting otherwise is being intentionally obstinate.

    No Qi. No shutter button. 4 megapixel camera. As far as I can tell, the IR blaster requires you to have some sort of TV service...versus being able to just program in my TV to control it (cord cutter). LCD display which is great, but having boarded the AMOLED train, I dunno. For me, that all hurts the appeal.

    Point being it's great to have choices and pretty sure both phones are great. Trying to choose a universally "better" phone is a fool's errand...
    Wow, this is like a dissention among the troops. We're all huge WP fans here. We can agree to disagree. Not knocking the icon, had it since release day. But I'm going out on a limb here by thinking the folks knocking the M8 haven't used one any length of time , anyplace but maybe in store. Not everyone needs a dedicated shutter button. Sheesh. Never used it. Actually prefer the other virtual button, get a steadier shot with it. The camera works great outside which is where all my shots happen. The infra red TV thingie is pointless for me, I'll never use it. Agreed also, its pointless to rate which is better than the other, because that type of argument is relative to what you need in a device. I would imagine that maybe 90% or more folks rocking an M8 had an icon before it. Not sure I've seen complaints much about someone who left their icon for an M8 and went back because they didn't like the M8.
    So its pretty clear we're all a bunch of phone techies that have different preferences and needs and hang out on forums chatting and learning about it all. Lets agree to disagree on somethings , we're all WP freaks.
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    08-29-2014 11:41 AM
  13. scottcraft's Avatar
    Both the Icon and M8 are pretty good phones. I like the camera and qi charging on the Icon since I'm on my third phone with qi charging. On the M8 I like the IR blaster, front speakers, screen and physical design better. I'm considering switching from my Lg G2 to the M8. If the Icon had 8.1 right now the decision would be more difficult, but for my needs the M8 fits best.
    08-29-2014 05:32 PM
  14. BigCTM's Avatar
    For those with an Icon, is the incentive there to upgrade to the M8 when the specs are pretty darn similar? There is no way I would extend my contract 2 years to upgrade from an Icon to an M8. Now if you wanted to buy outright then that's different but I can't help thinking that there will be new phones coming relatively soon that will leave both the Icon and the M8 in the dust.

    Wow, this is like a dissention among the troops. We're all huge WP fans here. We can agree to disagree. Not knocking the icon, had it since release day. But I'm going out on a limb here by thinking the folks knocking the M8 haven't used one any length of time , anyplace but maybe in store. Not everyone needs a dedicated shutter button. Sheesh. Never used it. Actually prefer the other virtual button, get a steadier shot with it. The camera works great outside which is where all my shots happen. The infra red TV thingie is pointless for me, I'll never use it. Agreed also, its pointless to rate which is better than the other, because that type of argument is relative to what you need in a device. I would imagine that maybe 90% or more folks rocking an M8 had an icon before it. Not sure I've seen complaints much about someone who left their icon for an M8 and went back because they didn't like the M8.
    So its pretty clear we're all a bunch of phone techies that have different preferences and needs and hang out on forums chatting and learning about it all. Lets agree to disagree on somethings , we're all WP freaks.
    08-29-2014 08:58 PM
  15. DavidinCT's Avatar
    If your still wondering this one, this is a good comparison between the ICON and the M8 with WP...

    HTC One M8 for Windows vs Nokia Lumia Icon (Video) | Pocketnow

    Pretty much what everyone says, side by side, performance is ABOUT the same, both good phones but, the camera on the ICON blows away the M8, it's not a bad camera on the m8 but, for quality and detail, it's not even close..... again what is more important to you...

    You can't really have it all with one Windows Phone device, can you ?

    For those with an Icon, is the incentive there to upgrade to the M8 when the specs are pretty darn similar? There is no way I would extend my contract 2 years to upgrade from an Icon to an M8. Now if you wanted to buy outright then that's different but I can't help thinking that there will be new phones coming relatively soon that will leave both the Icon and the M8 in the dust.
    Unless you really need a feature the M8 offers more than the camera, then no. Not a big reason.

    If you have a ICON, like I do, I would wait till next year anyway, WP 9 is rumored and I will bet it will support features that the ICON does not support, if your going to upgrade, I would wait.

    Personally, the only advantage I could see with the M8 over the ICON for me would be the MicroSD slot, as storage on my ICON is at a premium.

    Not really worth spending $400-500 on for that one feature(I wont sign a contract, unlimited data)

    Why would you take it j never really used it? I said right in my post I owned an Icon.
    Just because you had a ICON, does not mean you lived with wireless charging for a while or even used it. Most people who complain about it, never used it or used it for a very short period.

    We can agree to disagree here, I think it rocks but, again, I have had 3 phones with it.. and it's all I use besides in the car.
    Last edited by DavidinCT; 08-29-2014 at 11:01 PM.
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    08-29-2014 10:47 PM
  16. Nicholas Maguire's Avatar
    How do the HTC M8 pictures compare to the iPhone 5s? I'm trying to decide between the Lumia Icon and HTC M8 for Windows. I want the extra storage expandability, but I also want good pictures.... I'm so confused. God, I wish Nokia allowed extra storage space on their high end phones. I have a Lumia 820 8gb, with a 32 gb micro sd in it, and have used up all the phone storage and sd storage. Please someone who has the M8 answer how the camera compares to the iPhone 5s.
    09-01-2014 09:19 PM
  17. onlysublime's Avatar
    Having played with the HTC for a weekend, it a great phone. But not enough to make me go away from the Icon. It's a really long phone. That surprised me but that's because of the front speakers. I don't like the virtual buttons. I will straight up say it: the camera on the HTC is pretty weak. It's faster but what good is speed if the pictures look bad? And speed on the Icon is good with the ProShot app.

    I love the Qi charging of the Icon.

    The one feature of the HTC that I so desperately wish the Icon had is the external storage support. The 32 GB of the Icon gets really limiting.
    09-02-2014 12:36 AM
  18. vancevep's Avatar
    Oooh.... a heated discussion! I just upgraded from an Android device to WP (2 days as a WP user). I was about to purchase the HTC One M8 for Windows and then switched camps to the Nokia Lumia Icon. It was a tough decision. I played with both phones at the Verizon store and researched them heavily online. The M8 is a beautiful phone. The SD card storage is a huge plus. The IR blaster, though a bit gimmicky, is still a nice feature. On the other hand, the Icon's camera is the best for WP on VZW. For me, it came down to this... for $100 the M8 pros were not that valuable to ME compared to what the Icon offers for $0. That was my decision though and what I find more valuable is not necessarily what the next WP user will. Again, the running theme is to each their own.
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    09-02-2014 12:44 AM
  19. onlysublime's Avatar
    yeah, that's another factor. we had been comparing feature-for-feature. but when you factor in cost, the Icon is amazing for the price. I think once it gets Cyan too, it'll help. The HTC is already fully upgraded in terms of OS and firmware.
    09-02-2014 08:36 PM
  20. scottcraft's Avatar
    If you're using an upgrade it would be hard to pass up the Icon to get the M8. It gets more complicated if you're buying outright or with the edge plan.
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    09-02-2014 08:53 PM
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