12-08-2014 01:29 AM
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  1. aximtreo's Avatar
    I'm wondering - perhaps naively and foolishly hoping would be a better way to say it - if this isn't some kind of bargaining chip in backroom negotiations about the release of the "930" in the USA?
    I'm realizing that what happens in the USA is not typical of how phones are released and marketed elsewhere in the cosmos.
    In the US, Verizon is the cosmos. They have the largest coverage of LTE and the worst customer service and support of any of the US carriers. To them, it's take it or leave it. They truly don't care one way or the other.
    10-13-2014 09:03 AM
  2. anywhereanytime's Avatar
    Unfortunately, there IS a new 8XX series phone that Microsoft announced in early September that is "reportedly" coming to all US carriers ... it is, as I recall, referred to as a 4.5 inch "mid- tier flagship" and to replace the aging 928.

    I "think" this one is what the Cortana ads will address?
    10-13-2014 08:29 PM
  3. anywhereanytime's Avatar
    This one ... Nokia Lumia 830 - Slim Stylish Smartphone with Windows - Nokia
    Unfortunately ... Snapdragon 400, 720p and 10.1 mega pixel
    OH ... I was wrong ... it is 5 incher ...
    BUT ... NOT an ICON !
    10-13-2014 08:32 PM
  4. awilliams1701's Avatar
    I had no trouble seeing the difference between 720p on the 928 and 1080p on the Icon. 720p is a downgrade. Not sure about 1080p vs 1440p on the 1520 vs the rumored successor (1525/1530). The screen is bigger which means that there is a higher possibility of seeing pixels.
    10-14-2014 12:57 PM
  5. anywhereanytime's Avatar
    Just so everyone does NOT think that Verizon doesn't screw with MORE than just Windows Phone ... check this out ---- and REMEMBER that this IS the same "Verizon" that initially SHUNNED Jobs and the iPhone and "got LOCKED OUT for 3 YEARS - or was it 5 YEARS"?

    So, as pissed as I am - and we all are - about the ICON "retired" situation ... just look at the what we are dealing with here !

    Apple Put Its Own SIM Card in iPad Air 2 and iPad Mini 3
    10-16-2014 06:14 PM
  6. SteveNoza's Avatar
    I just got this in the mail from Verizon. What? Does the left hand know what the right hand is doing?
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    10-20-2014 04:19 AM
  7. NancyAnnL's Avatar
    They said they were going to sell the stock they have left- hence, the "limited time". Looks like they're trying to hurry it along.
    10-20-2014 05:37 AM
  8. raqball's Avatar
    I just got this in the mail from Verizon. What? Does the left hand know what the right hand is doing?
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    LOL..

    Verizon is pretty clueless, they always have been.. They do that same garbage with Android phones as well! The only phone to get any Verizon love is the iPhone!

    I have one line on Verizon, 2 lines on AT&T and one line on T-Mobile.. I might be moving the Verizon line to AT&T once the Lumia 830 is released next month and wipe my paws clean of Verizon..

    I had kept the Verizon line just for Windows Phone but I don't think they are a viable option any more..
    10-20-2014 08:06 AM
  9. SteveNoza's Avatar
    I guess "limited time" means a month ago
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    10-20-2014 08:30 AM
  10. NancyAnnL's Avatar
    I guess "limited time" means a month ago
    They still have Icons in stock at my local Verizon store. And they are still available at Microsoft.com and Amazon.
    10-20-2014 08:45 AM
  11. puckrazy1's Avatar
    Quick...for a limited time get the device we've never really embraced and probably won't support going forward. But we're Verizon...so it's cool.
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    10-20-2014 10:51 AM
  12. gapost's Avatar
    They have a label for the Icon on a display at my local store. They even have a white Nokia above it. .... It's a 928, hahaha
    10-20-2014 11:39 AM
  13. Broad and Market's Avatar
    The silver lining in all this is that a lot of retailers are having fire sales on Icon cases and other accessories right now.
    10-20-2014 12:47 PM
  14. gapost's Avatar
    My Verizon business rep just told me the Icon is not available at all in their system. Just the 928.
    10-24-2014 09:58 AM
  15. awilliams1701's Avatar
    Oh by the way. Now that I have a 1520.3, I can confirm that 1080p on a 6" screen is still "retina". I can't see the pixels. It looks just as sharp and crisp as the Icon. However since its an LCD I like it better since it will never burn in. My Icon was just starting to get indications of burn in. It was minor, but that's after 6 months. My 928 had it bad after 1 year.
    10-24-2014 10:23 AM
  16. salmanahmad's Avatar
    Oh by the way. Now that I have a 1520.3, I can confirm that 1080p on a 6" screen is still "retina". I can't see the pixels. It looks just as sharp and crisp as the Icon. However since its an LCD I like it better since it will never burn in. My Icon was just starting to get indications of burn in. It was minor, but that's after 6 months. My 928 had it bad after 1 year.
    Retina is just a term that Apple invented. Anything above 312(or to be safe 326 PPI) is good enough for the regular consumer.
    10-24-2014 12:32 PM
  17. awilliams1701's Avatar
    I know that. That's why I used quotes. My personal definition is if I can't see the pixels. On a 6" screen with 1080p I can't see the pixels. Therefore I see it as "Retina". Ironically many of the iphones by my definition aren't retina as they aren't even 720p and I know that isn't.
    10-24-2014 01:19 PM
  18. tgp's Avatar
    I know that. That's why I used quotes. My personal definition is if I can't see the pixels. On a 6" screen with 1080p I can't see the pixels. Therefore I see it as "Retina". Ironically many of the iphones by my definition aren't retina as they aren't even 720p and I know that isn't.
    Somewhere around 325 dpi is where the human eye cannot see the pixels.
    10-24-2014 01:46 PM
  19. gernerttl's Avatar
    And yet "still" nothing "official" from either Microsoft or Verizon?
    I was at the Microsoft Store here in Hawaii yesterday getting a glass screen protector for my SP3. I was talking to the manager about Windows Phones, and mentioned that Verizon retired the Icon. She told me that she talks to the corporate offices on a regular basis, and that this info was news to her. She was also rather perplexed as to why Verizon would retire the newer Icon instead of the older 928. She did state that as far as Microsoft was concerned the Icon was NOT retired, and that you can still get them through Microsoft stores and online. When it comes to info about Microsoft products, I will give more credence to comments from a Microsoft employee than from a Verizon or other third party rep.
    10-24-2014 01:55 PM
  20. westex74's Avatar
    As a Blackberry guy that just had to get the Z30, Verizon didn't even stock the phone in its stores. You had to order online. As if a BlackBerry device didn't have enough hurdles to overcome.
    10-28-2014 12:04 AM
  21. jazz70's Avatar
    As a Blackberry guy that just had to get the Z30, Verizon didn't even stock the phone in its stores. You had to order online. As if a BlackBerry device didn't have enough hurdles to overcome.
    I have a friend that uses Blackberry on Verizon so I understand your situation

    as a WP user I understand very well how abysmal Verizon treats WP on it's network and in it's stores but I feel sorry for him because Verizon treats Blackberry worse than WP

    it's all about droid and iPhone for Verizon but they are more than happy to take Microsoft's and Blackberry's money while doing the bare minimum to honor contractual obligations to those two companies
    Last edited by jazz70; 10-28-2014 at 10:18 AM.
    10-28-2014 10:04 AM
  22. awilliams1701's Avatar
    Oh by the way when I activated my AT&T service one of the things I noticed was that a 1520 was prominently displayed. The sales people mentioned that they noticed how much their windows phone customers love windows phone. I don't believe this was a corporate AT&T store but an authorized store. While I was there a woman came in with a nokia and had camera issues. Her kids did something to it, but its cool to actually see another windows phone in use by another person.
    10-28-2014 10:27 AM
  23. JamesJonesWI's Avatar
    Well, no 8.1 for us poor schucks with the Icon.... Saying goodbye to WP today. Note 4 should be here any minute now.
    10-28-2014 10:33 AM
  24. jazz70's Avatar
    Well, no 8.1 for us poor schucks with the Icon.... Saying goodbye to WP today. Note 4 should be here any minute now.
    not exactly I have 8.1.1 DP running fine on my Icon now with some minor annoyances because of having to use black firmware, it remains to be seen if Verizon will ever release cyan/denim firmware or 8.1 officially though

    Verizon is trying their best to get me to switch back to droid or slip over to the dark side and use an iPhone with the way they treat WP but I am not going to do it, I like the WP platform and as long as WP is around I will continue to use it
    10-28-2014 11:20 AM
  25. awilliams1701's Avatar
    Switch to AT&T if you can. They actually embrace it. I did and my new 1520 has Cyan and works very well.

    not exactly I have 8.1.1 DP running fine on my Icon now with some minor annoyances because of having to use black firmware, it remains to be seen if Verizon will ever release cyan/denim firmware or 8.1 officially though

    Verizon is trying their best to get me to switch back to droid or slip over to the dark side and use an iPhone with the way they treat WP but I am not going to do it, I like the WP platform and as long as WP is around I will continue to use it
    10-28-2014 12:45 PM
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