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  1. CB Stuart's Avatar
    I posted over in the Microsoft Mobile Lumia forums asking about any info on why we didn't get double tap to wake with our 8.1.1/Denim update so fingers crossed maybe they will know the answers over there.

    Mobile Community - Lumia Icon double tap to wake - Microsoft Mobile Community
    I was also wondering why we didn't get that. Pls post if you find something.
    02-13-2015 07:05 PM
  2. 2390's Avatar
    All hope is lost. This is the end. I fear there will be update for the icon.
    ...
    02-13-2015 07:36 PM
  3. WP Newbie's Avatar
    And I thought we would get lucky and the day after Windows 10 hits....and I see Not for all phones and I am like, Yep, I am a Verizon customer with an ICON so that means we wont get it.....and I was right... :(

    Truth be told, I am glad we finally got it, was getting sick of all the rumors ever other day on here, Better late than never...
    So we for sure won't be getting Windows 10 then? Where did you see this?
    02-13-2015 08:02 PM
  4. beantownsouth's Avatar
    Two days into the update, my battery was draining (what seemed) twice as fast. Seems the OTA and the MS backup didn't quite catch all of my settings. Everything was at the default settings. By this I mean. Background apps, yup all of them were running. My headphone just didn't sound right, yup equalizer defaulted. The color seemed off, uhh you guessed it, defaults. What a difference once everything was set the way I wanted it. Is this normal on an update this big?

    The transparent background pics for the start screen rock! The phone now wakes up with the power button in the blink of an eye. Gawd did mine lag on 8.1DP. The upgrades that came with DP made it well worth using it. Going back to 8.0 would have been painful. The camera is darn near instant now. Who ever fixed it has my sincere thanks! There is no other brand phone camera on the market that can touch it IMHO. First time I have ever had a phone camera, that was better in low light WITHOUT the flash, than with it. ROFL Camera 5 is incredible in low light.

    Nice to see I finally have a flagship phone, capable of what it was originally touted as. WP 8.0 and Black did this phone no justice what so ever.
    feeked likes this.
    02-13-2015 08:04 PM
  5. HGIIII's Avatar
    Really - you are mad and gonna bounce? You'll only be disappointed again, but next time, you'll be disappointed and on an inferior network - ATT is TERRIBLE - dropped calls, echoes - everyone constantly asking me to move toward a window - with full signal strength displaying. We had 8.1 in DP - not ideal, but if it really mattered to you, there was a work around. I bought my Icon a few weeks ago off of eBay for a couple hundred bucks betting on the fact that MSFT wouldn't dare leave the Icon in the dust. So, I didn't suffer through all of the uncertainty and dispair- but it sure seems like an ideal set up to me now. Why not wait to see how 10 get's released?
    02-13-2015 08:09 PM
  6. mortici's Avatar
    I was also wondering why we didn't get that. Pls post if you find something.
    It can still possibly come with an update to the "touch" system app... I am also hoping an update to the "display" app fixes
    my tint/hue issue.

    To those of you that don't appear to have the issue (to test, set brightness to high, and bring up settings menu in a dark room, is the background black or visible hue of red/purple?) did you up update from 8.0 to Denim or from PfD to Denim?
    02-13-2015 08:32 PM
  7. Tepid's Avatar
    So we for sure won't be getting Windows 10 then? Where did you see this?
    Before this rumor gets going,, lets squash it.

    YES, We Will Be Getting Windows 10 on the Icon.
    No, we are not getting the Tech Preview right now.
    Might see something by June 2015, so either a Dev Preview or RTM.
    Most likely a Dev Preview and RTM around the same time

    I am expecting June 2015 time frame.
    Yes We will get a Dev Preview and not have to wait for VZW.
    02-13-2015 08:52 PM
  8. Tepid's Avatar
    It can still possibly come with an update to the "touch" system app... I am also hoping an update to the "display" app fixes
    my tint/hue issue.

    To those of you that don't appear to have the issue (to test, set brightness to high, and bring up settings menu in a dark room, is the background black or visible hue of red/purple?) did you up update from 8.0 to Denim or from PfD to Denim?
    Only in certain areas, not all screens are like that.
    Not a big deal to me.
    02-13-2015 09:02 PM
  9. magmagnus's Avatar
    To those of you that don't appear to have the issue (to test, set brightness to high, and bring up settings menu in a dark room, is the background black or visible hue of red/purple?) did you up update from 8.0 to Denim or from PfD to Denim?
    I updated from 8.0. When I use those settings in a very dark room, I do see the purple hue. If you hadn't pointed it out, I would have never known. With that being said, it doesn't bother me; I never use my phone in near total darkness conditions. But, that is just me.

    I plead ignorant on the AMOLED screen tech. Was there an advertising claim or promise made that said there would not be a purple tint in near total darkness?

    What is your use case where this is a problem? A better understanding of that scenario might help me understand the source of your frustration with this issue.

    I have a problem with Cortana's affection algorithms. She just doesn't seem to be into me, no matter how much I sweet talk her.
    02-13-2015 10:20 PM
  10. cbreze's Avatar
    I have a problem with Cortana's affection algorithms. She just doesn't seem to be into me, no matter how much I sweet talk her.
    Yeah, Never could get Cortana interested in me either so I dumped her for Siri. ;)
    02-13-2015 10:33 PM
  11. DCJohnston's Avatar
    What he said. Pretty sure the poster went straight from 8 to official 8.1. Xbox music is fine now.

    However....op, pretty much all of your gripes are OS related and are nothing Verizon would be signing off on. They have no interest whatsoever in if you prefer the update, they just make sure it works on their devices and network. If you don't like something about the OS, Microsoft who made it that way.
    I understand Microsoft is in control of Windows Phone OS, for the music gripe, they are the ones I am upset with. But my gripe with Verizon was leaving customers like me in the dark when it came to the update and unreasonable retire of the Icon which is their best windows phone they offer. I know each phone is different but they could at least tell us why it took them so long. Any answers at all would have been nice.


    What is wrong with it now? After the latest update I have no issues at all. I should say I am an Xbox Music subscriber and all the music I have on the phone is from there.
    When it comes to changing songs or loading your collection, you don't encounter any type of loading or lag? Not saying you're wrong I just want to check and see if maybe it is my phone. I see others side with me and then people like yourself say it's fine. How much music is on your phone? I have 8 gigs and it is all from Xbox Music, I pay for it as well.
    02-13-2015 10:59 PM
  12. mortici's Avatar
    I updated from 8.0. When I use those settings in a very dark room, I do see the purple hue. If you hadn't pointed it out, I would have never known. With that being said, it doesn't bother me; I never use my phone in near total darkness conditions. But, that is just me.

    I plead ignorant on the AMOLED screen tech. Was there an advertising claim or promise made that said there would not be a purple tint in near total darkness?

    What is your use case where this is a problem? A better understanding of that scenario might help me understand the source of your frustration with this issue.

    I have a problem with Cortana's affection algorithms. She just doesn't seem to be into me, no matter how much I sweet talk her.
    Not necessarily frustrated, but disappointed as it wasn't an issue before the update and I can't confirm or deny if it affects battery life. Since amoled is supposed to be off when on black if it has any deviation from rgb 0,0,0 then the pixel is on and using battery.

    Regardless it doesn't bother me that much if at all, its just an $500+ phone shouldn't have this type of issue especially if it wasn't present in prior versions.
    02-13-2015 11:18 PM
  13. loki993's Avatar
    So really liking denim so far but one thing my search is changed. Apparently you can't choses your default search provider anymore and it defaults to the phone search which is cortana. It takes forever to find anything. Anyway I can get google back? The browser options are really limited I can't even set a home page that can find.
    Sent from my RM-927_nam_vzw_100 using Tapatalk
    02-14-2015 01:48 AM
  14. MikeSo's Avatar
    We had 8.1 in DP - not ideal, but if it really mattered to you, there was a work around.
    There was no workaround the fact that some hardware was never activated or optimized until the official Denim release.
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    02-14-2015 01:54 AM
  15. rpspiker's Avatar
    I turned the phone on this morning and it said an update was ready go to (can't show link) . Since I had the Developer Preview I started researching what steps I needed to take. Then I decided to check Setting->extras+info. I first clue was new options under settings: Hey Cortana, motion data and transfer my data. When I touched extras+info I was pleasantly saw Lumia Denim. I scrolled down to see creation date 1/9/2015. Every indication is this is the real Denim. AND I did not have to "remove" Preview for Developers. It seems to have integrated/updated what was already installed. I know it is Demin. It paired with my Fitbit One and Chest Strap Heart Rate Monitor. Finally, thank you Verizon.
    02-14-2015 09:04 AM
  16. pci2k's Avatar
    Now that I got Denim, I just got the NFC SIM card and got Softcard to work. I started a thread on how I did it, along with how I politely educated VZW staff that NFC pay is supported on my phone....
    02-14-2015 10:24 AM
  17. grafixguy#AC's Avatar
    AND I did not have to "remove" Preview for Developers.
    Not only did you not have to disable it, if you had, you wouldn't have gotten the update. It actually had to be left on.
    02-14-2015 10:51 AM
  18. DavidinCT's Avatar
    Now that I got Denim, I just got the NFC SIM card and got Softcard to work. I started a thread on how I did it, along with how I politely educated VZW staff that NFC pay is supported on my phone....
    I replied to your post and you could of done this with the DP, I used it myself, there is a whole thread on Softcard that was there before Denim hit...

    Still, like normal Vzw employees, clueless about Windows Phone...
    02-14-2015 12:11 PM
  19. DavidinCT's Avatar
    So we for sure won't be getting Windows 10 then? Where did you see this?
    No, I am not sure, I was talking about the Release day. I am 99.9% sure we will get the DP/preview of Windows 10 Phone. Now getting the FINAL release from Verizon, now that is a TOTAL different story. A hope is about the best you can get with that one..

    I am not looking forward to the thread of MONTHS of waiting for Verizon to give us even a hair bit of info IF and when we will get W10P (what'd we get between the 2 threads waiting for Cyan/Denim between both, 150 pages or so ?),

    Yea, W10P should be the new thing we call Windows 10 for phone.
    02-14-2015 12:16 PM
  20. jazz70's Avatar
    funny video on that page talking about why the high end Windows Phones didn't get access to the WP 10 TP when it was released the other day
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    02-14-2015 03:11 PM
  21. Neopassive's Avatar
    I am upset that Glance is not available for the Icon. It has all the hardware needed...
    02-14-2015 08:22 PM
  22. mortici's Avatar
    I am upset that Glance is not available for the Icon. It has all the hardware needed...
    Glance won't come due to lack of screen memory its been covered, Double Tap to Wake should come though, considering we have the hue issue the 930's have :P I think it just might be an update to the "touch" app to enable it but as stated several times before its pure hope at this time. I am worried that the hue issue won't be a simple software fix :( but considering it started after the firmware update.....
    02-14-2015 09:39 PM
  23. savagelizards's Avatar
    Okay, four days in, and I am becoming concerned. I have started to have battery problems that I never had with PFD. Yesterday, my phone shut down completely on me. I went to restart it and it displayed the empty battery logo. I have an external battery stick I bought when I got the phone (the battery is tiny for the specs of the equipment), and as soon as it connected, the phone restarted.

    When powered up, I checked the battery level and it showed 52%! Clearly it did not flash charge, it simply wasn't reporting a charge when one existed.

    I have experienced other "flash drains" that didn't shut the phone down, but in no case did the phone heat up. I don't believe that the battery is actually draining. I think there's something wrong with the algorithm that measures the battery level.

    Is anyone else having this issue?
    02-15-2015 04:41 PM
  24. Scorpio5x0's Avatar
    I just received what appeared to be a small update after hard resetting earlier today. Didn't think about showing details before starting the update. Anyone know what the update was for?
    02-15-2015 06:16 PM
  25. anywhereanytime's Avatar
    we waited 9 months for an update, with not one word from Verizon of why it was delayed

    I don't care if it was malicious or not but waiting almost a full calendar year for an update is ridiculous even by Verizon standards imho

    I am going to shop around when my contract comes due, I find a better or comparable WP flagship on another carrier I will not have any problem jumping ship because I have no interest of going through another Icon situation with another flagship WP on a carrier that has showed no interest in the WP platform
    And, let's NOT forget this fact now that Microsoft has indicated that 8.1 GDR 2 has been released to OEMs. On item I noticed is "video over LTE" for video conferencing ... so, le's see how long it takes Verizon?
    02-15-2015 07:47 PM
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