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  1. reignbass118's Avatar
    You can't pair a Bluetooth low power device without Cyan, like the FitBit.
    Not true. The icon on 8.0/Black supports BT 4.0 LE. Running 8.1 without cyan breaks that. The fitbit app only runs on 8.1, not 8.0.
    11-25-2014 08:05 AM
  2. GoJays's Avatar
    At least Microsoft is listening to someone... Too bad it's Verizon's lawyers... Check under essentials at the OS. It's been downgraded since I posted this a few weeks back. http://forums.windowscentral.com/e?l...token=91AM4LWe
    11-25-2014 09:16 AM
  3. MobileVortex's Avatar
    HAHA i tweeted @lumiahelp like 6 times about this, looks like they finally got it to the right people.
    11-25-2014 11:03 AM
  4. rory753's Avatar
    I don't know how softpay plays into the Verizon update, but on ATT, its available. on the Verizon HTC m8 with windows, its available. I feel Verizon is purposely denying the update to the lumia owners in order to sell the htc phone, since theres potentially more money to be made. Verizon has a history of not updating phones so they can sell newer phones that show the new OS features(android or winphone).

    This is where I have to give props to apple/iphone. they weren't on Verizon for a long, long time, and I presume it was because they couldn't negotiate the freedom apple wanted with the hardware and updates. I think finally, Verizon caved to them, and now you can get a iphone on verizon. If it weren't for their coverage, I wouldn't even consider them. But, they do have it, and as such, its great to have the only thing I would ever buy from them: a pay as you go hotspot.
    11-25-2014 11:43 AM
  5. Patriots1959's Avatar
    Hey, maybe he knew something but, a "coming soon" type thing is what we have been hearing for months now. When it comes down to it, we are just grasping at straws here....

    STILL NOTHING ? WTF....I want Denim now ! Tired of this crap....Verizon may have the best network in the US but, sometimes I wonder is it worth it for this crap ?
    Looks like someone was listening to David N. Court - perhaps we will get Denim this weekend Lumia Denim to roll out "soon" but no official release date yet
    "According to my sources, Microsoft reportedly distributed final bits to operators for final testing two weeks ago. And the SW update is just around the corner, more precisely this weekend. The first Windows phones to receive the update will be the Lumia 1520, Lumia 930 and Lumia Icon."
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    11-25-2014 01:03 PM
  6. GoJays's Avatar
    Looks like someone was listening to David N. Court - perhaps we will get Denim this weekend Lumia Denim to roll out "soon" but no official release date yet
    "According to my sources, Microsoft reportedly distributed final bits to operators for final testing two weeks ago. And the SW update is just around the corner, more precisely this weekend. The first Windows phones to receive the update will be the Lumia 1520, Lumia 930 and Lumia Icon."
    *Subject to carrier approval
    11-25-2014 01:34 PM
  7. grafixguy#AC's Avatar
    I feel Verizon is purposely denying the update to the lumia owners in order to sell the htc phone, since theres potentially more money to be made.
    Let's take a look at this.

    How many Windows Phone users are there? Now, how many of that tiny percentage of VZW customers do you suppose are going to dump a Lumia phone and potentially pay full price before a contract is up to switch to the HTC just to use softcard?

    I'm as PO'ed as anyone but this is hold up is nothing but incompetence.
    feeked likes this.
    11-25-2014 01:35 PM
  8. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    Looks like someone was listening to David N. Court - perhaps we will get Denim this weekend Lumia Denim to roll out "soon" but no official release date yet
    "According to my sources, Microsoft reportedly distributed final bits to operators for final testing two weeks ago. And the SW update is just around the corner, more precisely “this weekend.” The first Windows phones to receive the update will be the Lumia 1520, Lumia 930 and Lumia Icon."
    Julia Martin...? Yeah, okay...
    11-25-2014 01:40 PM
  9. DavidinCT's Avatar
    How many Windows Phone users are there?
    A few million of them world wide but, if you talk to an Android or iOS user, they will say 2...
    11-25-2014 02:46 PM
  10. drewman77's Avatar
    Who cares about a prototype phone running around in the wild. The burning question is did you take home the table or not?
    Ha! Decided not to as we didn't have a good space for it.
    Indistinguishable likes this.
    11-25-2014 04:33 PM
  11. orangeman34's Avatar
    I finally gave up, I'm going back to Android. I didn't want to do it, but the lack of support was just frustrating. So if anyone wants to buy an Icon...
    11-27-2014 12:24 AM
  12. 11B1P's Avatar
    I finally gave up, I'm going back to Android. I didn't want to do it, but the lack of support was just frustrating. So if anyone wants to buy an Icon...
    Wait? What? Your phone all of a sudden doesn't make calls? Send and receive texts? Access the internet? And a gazillion other things every other phone does?

    Are you not in the Developer Program, which is ok if you're not. The DP gives you just about everything Cyan will bring. What few features the DP doesn't provide right now, are too small to leave for another platform. I get way more features in the DP than what I'm missing. But, hey, sounds like you never really took advantage of the WP os and never really committed, which is ok, too.

    Good luck in your future endeavors.
    MikeSo likes this.
    11-27-2014 02:41 AM
  13. dicks-webos's Avatar
    I have a Polish 930, hope they are fast with the update (usually they are). But even now I am pretty happy with my 930 and will not switch, even if there are never any updates anymore. This update-mania is getting out of hand.
    11-27-2014 03:07 AM
  14. AR2186's Avatar
    I have a Polish 930, hope they are fast with the update (usually they are). But even now I am pretty happy with my 930 and will not switch, even if there are never any updates anymore. This update-mania is getting out of hand.
    That's great for you, but all of us on the Icon still officially only have Windows Phone 8.0, not 8.1 which has been out for almost 6 months. Its a problem because we can't use any of the new universal apps, which is the only way developers should be designing apps from now on.

    As this thread does not pertain to you or your experience, you probably shouldnt comment.
    11-27-2014 08:29 AM
  15. gernerttl's Avatar
    That's great for you, but all of us on the Icon still officially only have Windows Phone 8.0, not 8.1 which has been out for almost 6 months. Its a problem because we can't use any of the new universal apps, which is the only way developers should be designing apps from now on.

    As this thread does not pertain to you or your experience, you probably shouldnt comment.
    You can always install WP8.1 DP. It's WP8.1 minus the Cyan firmware updates.
    11-27-2014 11:53 AM
  16. orangeman34's Avatar
    Wait? What? Your phone all of a sudden doesn't make calls? Send and receive texts? Access the internet? And a gazillion other things every other phone does?

    Are you not in the Developer Program, which is ok if you're not. The DP gives you just about everything Cyan will bring. What few features the DP doesn't provide right now, are too small to leave for another platform. I get way more features in the DP than what I'm missing. But, hey, sounds like you never really took advantage of the WP os and never really committed, which is ok, too.

    Good luck in your future endeavors.
    Yes I have dp, but that's not the point. If the platform is going to keep getting such awful support, whether it is from MS or VZW, I'm out.
    11-27-2014 02:06 PM
  17. 11B1P's Avatar
    Yes I have dp, but that's not the point. If the platform is going to keep getting such awful support, whether it is from MS or VZW, I'm out.
    Again, is your phone broken and nobody is helping you get it fixed? While we all complain about the lack of Cyan, it is going to bring features that compliment the os. And you can't say MS doesn't support the platform, it's their platform. If you want to complain to Verizon, I agree. But even with the lack of Cyan, Verizon offers me the best coverage. I'm not leaving because they haven't released an update, that brings very little in better performance than what my phone does now.
    11-27-2014 02:53 PM
  18. UncleGrandpa's Avatar
    The icon works perfectly on 8.0, however few updated apps will run on 8.0 anymore. That's more an issue than the update in my opinion.
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    11-27-2014 04:04 PM
  19. AR2186's Avatar
    You can always install WP8.1 DP. It's WP8.1 minus the Cyan firmware updates.
    Yeah I know, I've been running it since it was released. Look at what I was responding to
    11-27-2014 09:21 PM
  20. orangeman34's Avatar
    Again, is your phone broken and nobody is helping you get it fixed? While we all complain about the lack of Cyan, it is going to bring features that compliment the os. And you can't say MS doesn't support the platform, it's their platform. If you want to complain to Verizon, I agree. But even with the lack of Cyan, Verizon offers me the best coverage. I'm not leaving because they haven't released an update, that brings very little in better performance than what my phone does now.
    For one thing, yes I am missing things I need. Screen mirroring is an important feature, which I still cannot use without Cyan. It's just unfortunate that for whatever reason, I am STILL waiting to be able to use features that my phone should have been able to do months ago. I like the OS overall, and was even willing to overlook not being able to get all the different apps I might want, but I just can't take the lack of updates. Maybe I'll jump back into windows phone when I see that they actually start getting updated within a reasonable timeframe.
    11-27-2014 10:04 PM
  21. TomAd9's Avatar
    After reading post after post about Cyan/Denim and Windows phone I just have to chime in. I am frustrated. The Icon is a good phone but this waiting for this software update is for the birds. In the time Icon was supposed to have the update Apple announced, then released and updated the 6. My 2 biggest gripes with the icon is the Swype feature (I use the phone for work so I answer 200+ emails and texts a day and the swipe feature was a great feature. The other is Cortana, I am a big supporter of Microsoft but when I see every other persons phone use Siri or Google Voice, and they ask about my phone, being in the IT field it is quite embarrassing to say it can't perform the tasks. Anyway then I got impatient enough to do the DP and although the features are good the battery life has suffered, it is nothing like it was it was before the DP update. I did 2 hard resets and have turned off everything in the background (even cortana) and still is pretty bad. I even got an offer from Verizon to switch to the Droid Turbo which I am considering. I guess the biggest frustration is that there is no date in site, It looks like it could be a couple more months so basically these posts will be going on and on. Also I am sure Android lollipop will be out before Cyan/Denim. So I guess to say if the phone can do these things then why don't they, it is just catch up from here...
    11-28-2014 09:00 AM
  22. mtalinm's Avatar
    how did you get an offer from Verizon to switch to the DRoid Turbo? I'd take that.
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    11-28-2014 10:14 AM
  23. TomAd9's Avatar
    how did you get an offer from Verizon to switch to the DRoid Turbo? I'd take that.
    Complained enough, would it be frustration to make you switch or a better phone?
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    11-28-2014 10:40 AM
  24. kencaz's Avatar
    Well, I don't think VZW would be so kind if you had a Droid Turbo and wanted to switch to a WP...
    11-28-2014 12:22 PM
  25. psiu_glen's Avatar
    The icon works perfectly on 8.0, however few updated apps will run on 8.0 anymore. That's more an issue than the update in my opinion.
    Starting to see fragmentation appear as things get updated for 8.1 -- worse is when they don't seem to need it (being 8.1 only) but probably got changed because the devs didn't realize it. Roku is one example.
    11-28-2014 01:09 PM
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