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  1. gernerttl's Avatar
    It is, and I'm so fed up with this bs. I know I've said it before, but I hope they start pushing updates through the app store like the desktop did with 8.1
    Don't count on it... at least not for the firmware side. A desktop/laptop doesn't have built in CDMA, GSM, or LTE radios that connect to a cellular network. That is the fundamental difference. With SoC, those along with the Bluetooth and WiFi radios are integrated on the same chip as the CPU, GPU, and DSP. Qualcomm is responsible for updating the firmware for the Snapdragon 800 and providing that to Microsoft to include in the build sent to Verizon for approval.
    01-20-2015 09:17 PM
  2. 2390's Avatar
    Well, hopefully in a few hours they'll explain everything
    01-21-2015 07:47 AM
  3. Brenda Smeby's Avatar
    Why would they do that?

    Well, hopefully in a few hours they'll explain everything
    01-21-2015 08:05 AM
  4. 2390's Avatar
    Because of the massive Windows 10 event.
    01-21-2015 08:56 AM
  5. wstanton's Avatar
    Nope. W10 talkers will ignore Verizon victims completely, as though we all have denim & 8.1 already.
    MikeSo likes this.
    01-21-2015 09:23 AM
  6. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    Nope. W10 talkers will ignore Verizon victims completely, as though we all have denim & 8.1 already.
    Yeah... That's pretty much par for the course.
    01-21-2015 09:29 AM
  7. tomworthjr's Avatar
    I wonder how much an Icon without cellular would be able to be sold for by Microsoft? Whenever it gets Denim, I intend to buy a refurbished, no contract Icon just for the camera, Windows Phone interface and integration with OneDrive, and to use on WiFi. It'd be nice if they could have a high megapixel PureView device with top-notch specs, built-in Microsoft ecosystem and Lumia camera software, leave out the cellular guts entirely, and push out the firmware and software updates whenever they dang well pleased without carrier roadblocks. The device would be cheaper, but by how much?
    jbclemons likes this.
    01-21-2015 09:38 AM
  8. David Feifer's Avatar
    Let's hope they hit a hole in one today since they definitely would not be par for the course.
    01-21-2015 09:38 AM
  9. 2390's Avatar
    Well, we have about half an hour to go
    01-21-2015 10:27 AM
  10. MikeSo's Avatar
    Nope. W10 talkers will ignore Verizon victims completely, as though we all have denim & 8.1 already.
    Yup. Like the Fitbit app that came out and was for 8.1 only. MS just pretended that it worked on the Icon. Meanwhile, I saw many comments on FB from "regular people" that had the Icon with 8.0 on it confused about why they couldn't use their Fitbit app.

    Oh well, just WAIT a little longer, right, Microsoft?
    01-21-2015 10:39 AM
  11. MikeSo's Avatar
    Technically, neither has Verizon. The Denim update on the two phones they did were in name only.

    That said, AFAIK, the Icon is only 8.1 ready phone...in the world...that has received no update at all.
    Well, those phones received 8.1, right (I don't remember)? That's a major update.
    Kieta and Tjarren like this.
    01-21-2015 10:41 AM
  12. Caymus's Avatar
    Well, those phones received 8.1, right (I don't remember)? That's a major update.
    but they didn't. Icon is officially on 8. not 8.1
    01-21-2015 12:47 PM
  13. Kieta's Avatar
    but they didn't. Icon is officially on 8. not 8.1
    He was referring to the 822 and 928. Verizon released "Denim" for those phones and not the ICON. Although not many new features from Denim actually made it to the 822 and 928 but they did get an official 8.1 update and a bundled CYAN (from what I understand) while we ICON user are still using the DP for 8.1.
    MikeSo likes this.
    01-21-2015 12:52 PM
  14. dkhbike's Avatar
    Windows 10 for Icon in 2023!!!!
    hawwie_4 likes this.
    01-21-2015 02:01 PM
  15. GoJays's Avatar
    I'm tired of waiting for "insert current firmware/OS here" on the Icon. Maybe they will skip "aforementioned update" for "whatever follows." Insert and repeat when feeling optimistic.
    01-21-2015 02:22 PM
  16. Ruined's Avatar
    Verizon just announced Denim for the Icon will require HoloLens so that the user can look at their phone and pretend it has the latest firmware.
    01-21-2015 04:07 PM
  17. 2390's Avatar
    Maybe, if they can't push it themselves, maybe enough people can request it in the insider feedback app to pressure Verizon to release it
    01-21-2015 04:57 PM
  18. Danbradford7's Avatar
    Okay, this is weird, I chatted with a Verizon representative about the update, and she would not answer to it. All she would say is that she does not have access to the info, and to call support.
    01-21-2015 05:14 PM
  19. grafixguy#AC's Avatar
    Nothing weird about that. They're all a bunch of clueless drones.
    01-21-2015 05:26 PM
  20. fatrat727's Avatar
    After watching todays event, I realize owning a windows phone is nothing but owning a test device. Its like we are lab rats. We are coming up on 10. If 10 preview gets out before our denim why the hell would we need denim? To use a fitbit? 4K video? That stuff should be in 10 preview one would think. But I could be wrong and we get Denim tommorow or they might say you need Denim for 10 preview lol. Double screwed at that point. Lab rats.
    01-21-2015 06:45 PM
  21. SpaceyO's Avatar
    Verizon just announced Denim for the Icon will require HoloLens so that the user can look at their phone and pretend it has the latest firmware.
    Now that's funny stuff right there...
    Trent Vann and jropelato1 like this.
    01-21-2015 07:23 PM
  22. jayblazer's Avatar
    I really want "hey Cortana" I don't care what version it comes on...
    DavidinCT likes this.
    01-21-2015 07:49 PM
  23. miketworld929's Avatar
    I really want "hey Cortana" I don't care what version it comes on...
    Go get the Preview For Developers app if you want Cortana. You can get the BETA 8.1 update that way.
    01-21-2015 07:55 PM
  24. Kasey Pierce's Avatar
    February is going to be an even harder month for Icon owners....
    01-21-2015 08:35 PM
  25. jayblazer's Avatar
    Go get the Preview For Developers app if you want Cortana. You can get the BETA 8.1 update that way.
    I have Cortana and the developers preview. that does not get me "Hey Cortana"
    01-21-2015 09:09 PM
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