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  1. Y2HBK's Avatar
    This looks so bad on verizon. Nobody will ever want to buy a verizon flagship again. This marsh they announce the new flag i hope. Microsoft better think twice before choosing to have flag ships on verizon over sprint or tmobile. I have sprinT and it better be getting a flagship with 20mp camera!!! Lumia 940 cant wait lol i hope its real.

    But really who is going to buy another windows phone from verizon again. With sprint you get unlimeted for 60$. My gf has the 2gb plan with verizon and she can't stream nothing or play videos. While yes Sprint 3g sucks but I have 4g almost every where! I stream 1 hour videos and download updates all over network and never have to turn off data or worry. For only 60$ I don't understand how atat and Verizon get away with just 2gb for 70$.... rip off! But its worth for an icon if u ask me. That damn camera is amazing.
    I get what you are saying, but the reality is that we make up such a small portion of Verizon's customer base compared to the average iPhone and android user I'm pretty sure we could all walk away from big red and have very minimal impact on their overall revenue. I really don't think they would care.
    02-03-2015 10:11 PM
  2. iconuser165's Avatar
    THIS IS MY DEAL

    I love the Icon because of the 20MP camera. I am not a photographer but the ICON makes me better at taking pictures than I could have ever imagined.
    I went from no grandchildren to three in less than two years (I have two successful adult children who have started their own families). I wanted a camera that would allow Grampa to take good pictures even in the back row;).
    The only reason I want Denim is for the camera improvements. It's hard to catch a two year old and younger baby with the capture rate that exists on the original Icon with Black--they move too fast!
    All I want from the Icon is a faster capture speed for my sweet little grandchildren. I don't care about Cortana. The rest of my family have iphones and I have never seen any of them talking to Siri--it's a gimmick.
    If Microsoft could give me the camera improvements of Denim without the super-critical requirements of Verizon, I would happily run this windows phone into the ground. As long as I can get replacement batteries for the Icon from Microsoft and the updated camera--I am a happy Grampa;).
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    02-04-2015 12:07 AM
  3. PhalanxPunx's Avatar
    My Icon says I have Demin under Extras & Info...

    Sorry, I'm totally kidding. Just trying to lighten the mood in this thread.
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    02-04-2015 12:10 AM
  4. fanbpunx's Avatar
    Some of you really need to relax, I'm sure there's a reason for all this. It's like all my customers suddenly own windows phones and this thread is my hell.

    Patience, please, for your sanity and the sanity of the poor salesman you bought it from who you are now undoubtedly making his life hell!
    02-04-2015 01:18 AM
  5. fanbpunx's Avatar
    That is not true, IPhones do not require approval to update nor can the carrier hold back or block an update to an IPhone. An example is the IOS 6.1 update in which several carriers simply asked their users to wait before updating, since they could not stop the update. There is an in depth article about it.
    And yes they absolutely do. Laws and regulations do not work around iPhones.



    Well except labor laws.....
    02-04-2015 01:20 AM
  6. fanbpunx's Avatar
    Also, I've seen a lot of international threads complaining a lot of bugs with the 930 with denim, maybe that's where we're stuck?
    02-04-2015 01:30 AM
  7. gernerttl's Avatar
    My Icon says I have Demin under Extras & Info...

    Sorry, I'm totally kidding. Just trying to lighten the mood in this thread. ��
    You're lucky... I almost had to sic Indistinguishable on you. lol
    aximtreo likes this.
    02-04-2015 01:58 AM
  8. Tjarren's Avatar
    Hmmm.... I'm thinking that it'll get released on its one year anniversary.
    Ahem ... http://forums.windowscentral.com/nok...tm#post2942275
    02-04-2015 03:05 AM
  9. angeredsmile's Avatar
    I am sad to say I went to the dark side last Saturday and picked up a 6 plus. I am missing my icon quite a bit but the bugs minus the update were to much. I may go for the windows m8 as I am not sure how well I like the Apple ecosystem yet. Battery life is awesome and that's a plus
    02-04-2015 08:09 AM
  10. anon6002755's Avatar
    Verizon support lasts two years. The 928 and 822 are well over a year and Verizon is still supporting them. The same goes for Android phones.
    Thats great for those phones. The lack of updates on the Icon would seem to show otherwise, at least for our special case.
    02-04-2015 08:15 AM
  11. Nokia_Lumia's Avatar
    Also, I've seen a lot of international threads complaining a lot of bugs with the 930 with denim, maybe that's where we're stuck?
    I believe both have flawed hardware, this is where we're stuck - but the Icon to a greater extent. The fact that Microsoft retired the phone shortly after Verizon just proves that theory. I am sure neither company will admit it, however, and ultimately there will be no compensation for buying the flawed device. It is really unfortunate.
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    02-04-2015 08:27 AM
  12. grafixguy#AC's Avatar
    Some of you really need to relax, I'm sure there's a reason for all this. It's like all my customers suddenly own windows phones and this thread is my hell.

    Patience, please, for your sanity and the sanity of the poor salesman you bought it from who you are now undoubtedly making his life hell!
    Patience? Are you freakin' kidding? I was preaching patience in October.

    Now? Forget it! We've been lied to and mislead since July.
    Framling likes this.
    02-04-2015 08:34 AM
  13. GoJays's Avatar
    Patience? Are you freakin' kidding? I was preaching patience in October.

    Now? Forget it! We've been lied to and mislead since July.
    I'm not looking forward to March. We may tear each other apart if Denim hasn't dropped by then.

    Any chance on an early weekday release or does Verizon only release software on Fridays?
    02-04-2015 09:11 AM
  14. CodeGunnerDevelopment's Avatar
    I'm not looking forward to March. We may tear each other apart if Denim hasn't dropped by then.

    Any chance on an early weekday release or does Verizon only release software on Fridays?

    Big Red will release updates during any weekday not just Fridays. At least that's my experience from my crapdroid days.
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    02-04-2015 09:17 AM
  15. jazz70's Avatar
    I believe both have flawed hardware, this is where we're stuck - but the Icon to a greater extent. The fact that Microsoft retired the phone shortly after Verizon just proves that theory. I am sure neither company will admit it, however, and ultimately there will be no compensation for buying the flawed device. It is really unfortunate.
    "flawed hardware" you must be right, I am sure any problems have absolutely nothing to do with the fact that our phones are running on a firmware with a build date of 4/23/2014 here in 02/2015

    Trololo Song
    Last edited by jazz70; 02-04-2015 at 10:35 AM.
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    02-04-2015 09:24 AM
  16. grafixguy#AC's Avatar
    Big Red will release updates during any weekday not just Fridays. At least that's my experience from my crapdroid days.
    Right. Lollipop started rolling out to the Galaxy S5 yesterday.
    02-04-2015 09:41 AM
  17. beerme1's Avatar
    THIS IS MY DEAL
    I don't care about Cortana. The rest of my family have iphones and I have never seen any of them talking to Siri--it's a gimmick.
    If Microsoft could give me the camera improvements of Denim without the super-critical requirements of Verizon, I would happily run this windows phone into the ground. As long as I can get replacement batteries for the Icon from Microsoft and the updated camera--I am a happy Grampa;).
    Gramps, I'm not a kid but I will tell you that I do not find Cortana to be a gimmick. And in fact when 10 comes out it will be an impressive digital assistant.
    I agree with you about the camera, it is sweet.
    The battery comment I don't know about though. I'm thinking you carry a quick charge power pack to recharge.
    GoJays likes this.
    02-04-2015 09:44 AM
  18. MikeSo's Avatar
    Cortana is awesome. I saw it as a gimmick at first too, but now I use it all the time for searches. Once you get used to it, it just feels weird to type :)

    I agree that the camera slowness is a bigger issue though, but going forward any phone that doesn't have good voice interaction will be doomed.
    02-04-2015 10:37 AM
  19. MikeSo's Avatar
    Right. Lollipop started rolling out to the Galaxy S5 yesterday.
    Not exactly soon for that one either... 3 months after first release. Beats the Icon though.
    02-04-2015 10:37 AM
  20. grafixguy#AC's Avatar
    "flawed hardware" you must be right, I am sure any problems have absolutely nothing to do with the fact that our phones are running on a firmware with a build date of 4/23/2014 here in 02/2015

    Trololo Song
    You're missing the point.

    WHY is this phone still on year old firmware?
    02-04-2015 10:40 AM
  21. Nokia_Lumia's Avatar
    "flawed hardware" you must be right, I am sure any problems have absolutely nothing to do with the fact that our phones are running on a firmware with a build date of 4/23/2014 here in 02/2015
    Why would Verizon AND Microsoft both retire a flagship phone after 8 months? I would think there has to be something wrong with the device. Everyone complained about weak WiFi, laggy glance-less screen, battery drain. There could be other issues CDMA-specific.
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    02-04-2015 10:47 AM
  22. Tjarren's Avatar
    Why would Verizon AND Microsoft both retire a flagship phone after 8 months? I would think there has to be something wrong with the device. Everyone complained about weak WiFi, laggy glance-less screen, battery drain. There could be other issues CDMA-specific.
    But see, I have an Icon. Bought at the very start of June. I don't have WiFi issues, a laggy screen or battery drain issues (outside of select applications). I have had quirks here and there, but on a day-by-day basis, the phone has performed above expectations. So when you use a term like "flawed hardware", it would have to be a problem that every device suffers, not just select ones. So no, it's not flawed hardware. /discussion
    shann123 and jbclemons like this.
    02-04-2015 10:58 AM
  23. jazz70's Avatar
    You're missing the point.

    WHY is this phone still on year old firmware?
    Verizon

    this is not breaking news VZ has a long history of delaying updates

    imho VZ's complete disinterest in the WP platform because it's not selling or a strained relationship with MS or whatever reasons has lead to this monumental delay
    jbclemons likes this.
    02-04-2015 11:00 AM
  24. grafixguy#AC's Avatar
    Again...missing the point.

    I get that VZW is always a laggard with updates. That's something I can live with.

    This phone is different for some reason and I don't think it's all on VZW. If it was political, the 928 and 822 wouldn't have been updated either.
    Nokia_Lumia likes this.
    02-04-2015 11:02 AM
  25. Nokia_Lumia's Avatar
    Verizon

    this is not breaking news VZ has a long history of delaying updates

    imho VZ's complete disinterest in the WP platform because it's not selling or a strained relationship with MS or whatever reasons has lead to this monumental delay
    So why did the 928 and 822 receive timely updates, aside from Cyan? (and those are 2-yr old devices, still getting Denim among the first)

    There has got to be something wrong with the Icon. If it is Verizon at fault (not doubting they are at least partially to blame for a delay in updates, always has been that way), why did MS stop selling it in their stores?
    Kieta likes this.
    02-04-2015 11:08 AM
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