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  1. jazz70's Avatar
    lol I'm torn of what to use in my signature because that whopper of lie by Verizon is tempting

    "All of our Windows Phones for Verizon are powered by Windows Phone 8.1, a customized experience that makes your phone a true extension of you."

    or

    "Nokia Lumia 929 last updated 05/07/2014 9+ months and counting a true testament of Verizon's serious commitment to the WP platform"
    MikeSo, Tjarren, hawwie_4 and 1 others like this.
    02-09-2015 12:19 PM
  2. beerme1's Avatar
    While this is not 8.1 related I would mention to those who are going to jump ship to something else out of frustration, there is something that should not be overlooked. If you use the Icon as a phone, you will hear the best sound in your ear of any cell phone you've likely ever used. At least mine is that way.
    MikeSo likes this.
    02-09-2015 12:24 PM
  3. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    While this is not 8.1 related I would mention to those who are going to jump ship to something else out of frustration, there is something that should not be overlooked. If you use the Icon as a phone, you will hear the best sound in your ear of any cell phone you've likely ever used. At least mine is that way.
    I mean... The Lumia 1520 and 830 use the exact same audio hardware. So I don't know why it'd be that different. Unless you're talking about connectivity/reception - in that case, you're looking at a whole different set of factors.
    02-09-2015 12:28 PM
  4. Nokia_Lumia's Avatar
    Well 928 got timely updates for Amber, Black, and was one of the first to get Denim. It is a great device, and if you want to stay on Verizon with a working Lumia/official 8.1 - just buy the 928. Also, its xenon flash makes a huge difference in low light pictures, which were already better than the Icon's anyway. And it has glance!
    02-09-2015 12:39 PM
  5. grafixguy#AC's Avatar
    The 928 is Denim in name only. None of the high end features supported by Denim are available in that phone.
    miketworld929 likes this.
    02-09-2015 12:58 PM
  6. WP Newbie's Avatar
    Well 928 got timely updates for Amber, Black, and was one of the first to get Denim. It is a great device, and if you want to stay on Verizon with a working Lumia/official 8.1 - just buy the 928. Also, its xenon flash makes a huge difference in low light pictures, which were already better than the Icon's anyway. And it has glance!
    ....

    Why on Earth would anyone do that?
    02-09-2015 01:09 PM
  7. spigel's Avatar
    My icon is better than iPhone 6 plus! If I get denim updates
    02-09-2015 01:18 PM
  8. DavidinCT's Avatar
    Att has 3 gigs of data For 50 buvks... vs verizons 2gigs for 70 or 65
    I have Verizon, I have UNLIMITED data for $30, and your point ? SO ?

    Another week waiting....Sigh, I will still stand by the fact that we will see Windows 10 BEFORE we see Denim, and there WILL be a requirement of at least Cyan/8.1 official to use it so, Verizon will screw us both ways, cant get Denim and cant get Windows 10...

    Waiting for this release....tick, tock, tick, tock...
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    02-09-2015 01:19 PM
  9. spigel's Avatar
    I check phone updates like 10 times a day! Please help me get denim updates ugh!
    02-09-2015 01:26 PM
  10. MikeSo's Avatar
    While this is not 8.1 related I would mention to those who are going to jump ship to something else out of frustration, there is something that should not be overlooked. If you use the Icon as a phone, you will hear the best sound in your ear of any cell phone you've likely ever used. At least mine is that way.
    It is a fantastic phone with regards to sound (and image) quality in all aspects. I can't imagine there are too many phones out there that beat it in that respect.
    02-09-2015 01:31 PM
  11. Sandman2749's Avatar
    The bluetooth mic in my truck is garbage so I use my phone on speaker. Not only is it loud enough for me to hear but the noise cancelling must work extremely well as the other end said it sounded great.
    02-09-2015 02:14 PM
  12. Vistary's Avatar


    No Icon, what a joke
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    02-09-2015 02:27 PM
  13. Mirage85's Avatar


    No Icon, what a joke
    I think a lot of people fail to realize that this isn't the same as the PFD. There's a good chance it'll be extremely buggy, and you might not find many apps that will work on it until they officially release windows 10 and the PFD for it. So in the mean time, we're not really missing out but not being included... unless missing out on bugs makes you sad.
    02-09-2015 02:31 PM
  14. Tjarren's Avatar


    No Icon, what a joke
    Icon is my main driver. No way I'd put W10 on it anytime soon. Heck, I haven't even used the PfD. I'll get to enjoy 8.1 for the first time ... so exciting!
    hawwie_4 likes this.
    02-09-2015 02:37 PM
  15. Eric Hamilton's Avatar
    So, we were told that Denim will be available in early 2015 and that the definition, more or less, of early 2015 is the end of February. Any one not agree with that? Ok, so, if there is no Denim released by the 28th of February, 2015 what do you think we will see from Microsoft? Will Jo release another "tweet"? Will anyone say anything? We already know that Verizon won't say anything, because they don't care.

    I just keep thinking that there will be no more updates and there won't be any information coming from MS or Verizon, in other words, no one will say anything about it all and just ignore the entire subject as best they can. All of ICON owners will be left out in the cold. Just the luck of the draw I guess.
    02-09-2015 02:41 PM
  16. DavidinCT's Avatar
    So, we were told that Denim will be available in early 2015 and that the definition, more or less, of early 2015 is the end of February. Any one not agree with that? Ok, so, if there is no Denim released by the 28th of February, 2015 what do you think we will see from Microsoft? Will Jo release another "tweet"? Will anyone say anything? We already know that Verizon won't say anything, because they don't care.

    I just keep thinking that there will be no more updates and there won't be any information coming from MS or Verizon, in other words, no one will say anything about it all and just ignore the entire subject as best they can. All of ICON owners will be left out in the cold. Just the luck of the draw I guess.
    Go back about a dozen pages or so, this was already discussed great detail. If had to be a betting man, by the end of this month, but, I still think we are going to see Windows 10 before we get Denim
    02-09-2015 02:49 PM
  17. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    Icon is my main driver. No way I'd put W10 on it anytime soon. Heck, I haven't even used the PfD. I'll get to enjoy 8.1 for the first time ... so exciting!
    Dude... You have been missing out on so much. Windows Phone 8.1 is an entirely different level of function from Windows Phone 8. I cannot imagine myself keeping the Icon on WP8 if I had the option of going to a developer preview. It's why i'm so irritated with Verizon not releasing even Cyan to their consumers. It's such an outstanding upgrade. It's basically Windows Phone 9. The "bugs" encountered are minuscule compared to the upside of running the developer preview.

    So, we were told that Denim will be available in early 2015 and that the definition, more or less, of early 2015 is the end of February. Any one not agree with that? Ok, so, if there is no Denim released by the 28th of February, 2015 what do you think we will see from Microsoft? Will Jo release another "tweet"? Will anyone say anything? We already know that Verizon won't say anything, because they don't care.

    I just keep thinking that there will be no more updates and there won't be any information coming from MS or Verizon, in other words, no one will say anything about it all and just ignore the entire subject as best they can. All of ICON owners will be left out in the cold. Just the luck of the draw I guess.
    Joe did mention that there's a chance it'll come out in March. Joe, speaking for Microsoft, made an outright public statement about the release of WP8.1/Denim. If they wanted to ignore the entire subject as best they could, they wouldn't have made a public statement. So please quit with the FUD.
    MikeSo likes this.
    02-09-2015 02:54 PM
  18. Eric Hamilton's Avatar
    Not sure what FUD is, but, I'll post what I want when I want and all I want and that's it.
    02-09-2015 03:27 PM
  19. MikeSo's Avatar
    Icon is my main driver. No way I'd put W10 on it anytime soon. Heck, I haven't even used the PfD. I'll get to enjoy 8.1 for the first time ... so exciting!
    Yeah have really been missing out. :) But it'll be great to have it.
    02-09-2015 03:37 PM
  20. Ben Schmidt1's Avatar
    Talked to a lowbie on Verizon, who not surprisingly, didn't know anything. She also said the updates don't have anything to do with Vzn. Only the manufacturer has control over update releases. Waste of a phone call.
    02-09-2015 03:37 PM
  21. MikeSo's Avatar
    OT sort of but can anyone here navigate to page 48 of this thread in their computer web browser? For some reason, I can go to all other pages, except page 48 (in my settings, the thread has 49 pages currently). When I click on it, or even type it directly into the address field, it takes me to page 43. Odd. Even going to page 47 directly and then clicking one page forward goes to page 43!
    Anyone else has this happening to them? Not a big deal, but I'm curious.

    Does clicking this link take you to page 48, or page 43: http://forums.windowscentral.com/nok.../316510-48.htm
    02-09-2015 03:39 PM
  22. MikeSo's Avatar
    Not sure what FUD is, but, I'll post what I want when I want and all I want and that's it.
    Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt. A staple in online forums. ;)
    02-09-2015 03:40 PM
  23. jazz70's Avatar
    Anyone else has this happening to them? Not a big deal, but I'm curious.

    Does clicking this link take you to page 48, or page 43: http://forums.windowscentral.com/nok.../316510-48.htm
    page 48
    02-09-2015 03:49 PM
  24. SpaceyO's Avatar
    Not sure what FUD is, but, I'll post what I want when I want and all I want and that's it.
    You forgot to say "Nyah nyah"
    02-09-2015 03:57 PM
  25. zweible's Avatar
    WARNING: PURE SPECULATION AHEAD

    I believe we will get an announcement sometime this month. It is going to tell us that we have been working hard trying to work out the bugs in this update, and frankly, have been unable to do so. In light of this we are declaring the Icon officially at end of life for the device. No further updates are being tested or planned. Your device is as operational as the 1st day you bought it and neither Microsoft nor Verizon has any contractual obligation to go any further . Thank you for being a Nokia and VZW customer. We look forward to serving you in the future.
    nolan533 and MatsuDano like this.
    02-09-2015 04:00 PM
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