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  1. dirtyvu's Avatar
    Alright I love my Icon. I wouldn't trade it for anything except for maybe the HTC. However, I can see the point of why the iPhone only has one button and that it's physical. On the iPhone I can one-hand everything and not worry about accidentally triggering anything. But a lot of times, I will accidentally hit the back button or the search button on the Icon. The other day I was trying to one-hand take a picture while driving. Total fail. I kept getting out of the camera app by accidentally either to go back to the start screen or to Cortana. I had a workaround where I flip the phone upside down but some apps won't work like that. I would love a phone with a physical bottom row. Anyway, this problem afflicts both Windows Phone and Android. I don't like the iPhone much but that physical button gets praise from me.
    12-04-2014 09:49 PM
  2. ven07's Avatar
    The other day I was trying to one-hand take a picture while driving
    I stopped reading after those sentences lol.. I'm sorry, but no picture is so important that it requires you to drive and take a picture :/
    12-04-2014 10:14 PM
  3. raycpl's Avatar
    I stopped reading after those sentences lol.. I'm sorry, but no picture is so important that it requires you to drive and take a picture :/
    Don't be harsh, at least he wasn't riding a bicycle !!
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    12-04-2014 10:24 PM
  4. ven07's Avatar
    Don't be harsh, at least he wasn't riding a bicycle !!
    Didn't mean to be harsh :)
    raycpl likes this.
    12-04-2014 10:31 PM
  5. onlysublime's Avatar
    I agree that one-handed operation of the Icon or any other phone with capacitive buttons is harder than a phone with physical buttons. I'm always hitting the search button by accident.
    manudave likes this.
    12-05-2014 12:07 AM
  6. noersetiawan's Avatar
    Hey, I hate capacitive button too, but I also hate physical button just like on iPhone, it ruins the appearance. On screen button is perfect for me, just get rid of it whenever it gets in your way.
    12-05-2014 12:36 AM
  7. wphashan's Avatar
    I don't know why you people doing this instead of grabbing a iphone or a L730/630. It's quite simple, isn't it?
    Jorge Holguin likes this.
    12-05-2014 12:45 AM
  8. gernerttl's Avatar
    Alright I love my Icon. I wouldn't trade it for anything except for maybe the HTC. However, I can see the point of why the iPhone only has one button and that it's physical. On the iPhone I can one-hand everything and not worry about accidentally triggering anything. But a lot of times, I will accidentally hit the back button or the search button on the Icon. The other day I was trying to one-hand take a picture while driving. Total fail. I kept getting out of the camera app by accidentally either to go back to the start screen or to Cortana. I had a workaround where I flip the phone upside down but some apps won't work like that. I would love a phone with a physical bottom row. Anyway, this problem afflicts both Windows Phone and Android. I don't like the iPhone much but that physical button gets praise from me.

    Uh...WHY were you trying to take a picture while driving? Shouldn't you be worrying about driving? Just sayin'...
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    12-05-2014 01:14 AM
  9. onlysublime's Avatar
    you guys can't see the forest for the trees. the message isn't about driving and taking pictures. it's about how easy it is to hit the capacitive buttons.

    I wouldn't mind seeing an option to disable the search button, especially when Cortana gets the ability to activate search by voice. It's way too easy. This is one of the times I agree with Paul Thurrott and Mary Jo Foley.

    in two-hand mode, it's easy to avoid the buttons. But Windows Phone can be hard to use one-handed.
    manudave likes this.
    12-05-2014 01:57 AM
  10. SteveNoza's Avatar
    But Windows Phone can be hard to use one-handed.
    Yep, I agree, and with the Icon the capacitive buttons are on the absolute bottom edge of the phone, most of the other WP's have a little more "chin" area to grip one handed. I think the button placement should be re-thought to make it easier to use one-handed, or just go to gestures like BlackBerry's BB 10 OS.
    12-05-2014 04:52 AM
  11. ven07's Avatar
    you guys can't see the forest for the trees. the message isn't about driving and taking pictures. it's about how easy it is to hit the capacitive buttons.

    I wouldn't mind seeing an option to disable the search button, especially when Cortana gets the ability to activate search by voice. It's way too easy. This is one of the times I agree with Paul Thurrott and Mary Jo Foley.

    in two-hand mode, it's easy to avoid the buttons. But Windows Phone can be hard to use one-handed.
    The main point is, don't complain about sth when you shouldn't be doing it in the first place.. The world has enough deaths by traffic accidents... and the 520 is great for one-handed use
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    12-05-2014 01:28 PM
  12. dirtyvu's Avatar
    The main point is, don't complain about sth when you shouldn't be doing it in the first place.. The world has enough deaths by traffic accidents... and the 520 is great for one-handed use

    Now you're just being petulant. It would be like the guy writing a thesis and you're checking punctuation
    12-05-2014 02:09 PM
  13. ven07's Avatar
    Now you're just being petulant. It would be like the guy writing a thesis and you're checking punctuation
    I wouldn't say so.. Manufacturers have been building in voice control and special driving modes, so that people who are driving, can keep their hands on the wheels and eyes on the road.........
    12-05-2014 02:20 PM
  14. TechFreak1's Avatar
    Don't be harsh, at least he wasn't riding a bicycle !!
    Or doing this... lol...


    Or maybe the OP was?
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    12-05-2014 10:19 PM
  15. stephen_az's Avatar
    you guys can't see the forest for the trees. the message isn't about driving and taking pictures. it's about how easy it is to hit the capacitive buttons.

    I wouldn't mind seeing an option to disable the search button, especially when Cortana gets the ability to activate search by voice. It's way too easy. This is one of the times I agree with Paul Thurrott and Mary Jo Foley.

    in two-hand mode, it's easy to avoid the buttons. But Windows Phone can be hard to use one-handed.
    Actually, it would appear you can't see the burning forest. Regardless of the OP's point, the example given was reckless and also illegal many places. If one chooses to complain that you can't do something you shouldn't do, people have a right to express some ridicule. This is pretty much the equivalent of posting that one doesn't like the feel of the trigger on their gun because it makes Russian roulette clumsy,
    gernerttl and manudave like this.
    12-06-2014 03:14 AM
  16. stephen_az's Avatar
    Now you're just being petulant. It would be like the guy writing a thesis and you're checking punctuation
    You do know that in order to get a thesis approved at any US university, someone does need to check the punctuation? The coherence of an argument is not just based upon an idea but also the thought behind it and the presentation of it. In this case though a closer analogy would be telling someone that writing a thesis on the sociological impacts of gang activity in New Mexico and including a chapter on one's personal experience running drugs, burying bodies, etc., is probably not a good idea.
    gernerttl and ven07 like this.
    12-06-2014 03:24 AM
  17. EBUK's Avatar
    I was trying to one-hand take a picture while driving. Total fail.
    I nominate you for the Darwin Awards.

    You may find it easier to hit the buttons if you're not looking at the road conditions ahead as you should be doing when driving. You might as well say that the steering wheel is in the wrong place because you can't drive properly when using the phone!

    Seriously, if you are used to the way the iPhone works, then of course it will be difficult to use the Lumia - retrograde amnesia: past learning interferes with new. I find the iPhone difficult to control (even when not driving) because I'm used to the way WP works. And I used to find WP difficult because I was used to Android.

    Use WP more, and you'll soon get used to it.
    ven07 likes this.
    12-06-2014 05:27 AM
  18. anon5997296's Avatar
    Seriously, then just get HTC One M8 or Lumia 730. I like capacitive buttons and so do many other people. Just because you have a problem with them doesn't mean everyone should be forced to get rid of them.
    ven07 likes this.
    12-06-2014 05:36 AM
  19. DavidinCT's Avatar
    Hey, went from a 22min ride, to about an 1:15 to work each day....I see a LOT of fender benders(and sit in the traffic for it) and I have a collection of photos from them (that I can get from my car)....Yep, always watching the road and blindly taking a picture...

    Some interesting stuff I got..
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    12-06-2014 09:42 AM
  20. Br1t's Avatar
    Reason aside, accidental hitting of the search button is the #1 thing I don't miss now I have an M8. It's bloody annoying and on screen controls fixed it.
    onlysublime and ven07 like this.
    12-06-2014 10:00 AM
  21. Mr Lebowski's Avatar
    Don't be harsh, at least he wasn't riding a bicycle !!
    At least (at worst) if he was riding a bicycle he'd more than likely be the one that got injured ( no I don't wish that on anyone) but driving he could EASILY kill someone and that would make him a felon and a killer.
    12-06-2014 02:38 PM
  22. Ten Four's Avatar
    I have a new 635 and I don't miss the physical camera button, and I find the phone quite easy to use one handed--either left or right. That's one reason I like smaller phones--much easier to one hand, like when I am walking the dog in the park. I actually wait until I'm in the park so that I don't cause any danger to myself or others while trying to walk and text at the same time! Seriously, more and more I see people obliviously walking across busy streets or down crowded sidewalks while texting. Maybe not in the category of distracted driving, but still dangerous.
    12-06-2014 02:58 PM
  23. dirtyvu's Avatar
    You do know that in order to get a thesis approved at any US university, someone does need to check the punctuation? The coherence of an argument is not just based upon an idea but also the thought behind it and the presentation of it. In this case though a closer analogy would be telling someone that writing a thesis on the sociological impacts of gang activity in New Mexico and including a chapter on one's personal experience running drugs, burying bodies, etc., is probably not a good idea.

    So you would believe that you would ignore an argument because he used a semicolon instead of a comma... I see where you stand on logical arguments.
    12-06-2014 04:01 PM
  24. Kasey Pierce's Avatar
    I've recorded a video while driving before in some really heavy rain (Oregon) I kept one hand on the wheel and just held down the physical camera button, and recorded i never even looked at the phone....
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    12-06-2014 05:27 PM
  25. onlysublime's Avatar
    Yeah, I think capacitive buttons would be great if they weren't so close to the edge of the phone on the Icon. I think that's the main problem. When you cradle the bottom of the phone in your hand, your hand can easily trigger the buttons. If they want to do capacitive buttons, move them higher up or away from the edges. This is the only reason why on-screen buttons are useful because they're further away from the edges of the phone.

    You know what would be cool is if you could reassign functionality of the buttons. LIke the 735 has no physical camera button but it was double-tap to wake. What if you could reassign the physical power button to being the camera button? Since there are only on-screen buttons on the 735, you could assign in software different functions. Or maybe move the volume controls to an on-screen slider and then assign power to the volume rocker. That way you could get back the camera button that's missing.
    12-07-2014 05:01 PM
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