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  1. Surmisation's Avatar
    Subject line is self explanatory. Included photo is meh thanks to the quality of the Moto G's camera, but yeah.

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    I'm here in Miami, FL. Cricket is ATT's prepaid subsidiary. I believe the LTE is coming through on Bands 2 & 4 which ATT may or may not provide in your area. Also, bear in mind that this phone is not associated with my present Verizon number. An old flip phone is active on my Verizon account, along with the lowest amount of data plan (cheaper than the ETF). So, if you're thinking of switching and plan on continuing to use your ICON, you might be able to.

    Again, this depends on if ATT or even T-Mobile use LTE bands 2 & 4 in your area.

    DISCLAIMER: Subject to change upon Denim's release.
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    12-29-2014 05:12 PM
  2. AR2186's Avatar
    Are you able to send and receive MMS?
    12-29-2014 05:48 PM
  3. gernerttl's Avatar
    Here is a tool you can use to see who uses what freq/bands and where.

    http://reboot.fcc.gov/reform/systems/spectrum-dashboard
    Surmisation and aximtreo like this.
    12-29-2014 05:50 PM
  4. GoodThings2Life's Avatar
    Awesome. Can you submit a screenshot of a speed test?

    Looks like it would be supported here in Youngstown, OH / Cleveland, OH area. Very tempting...
    Last edited by GoodThings2Life; 12-29-2014 at 06:33 PM.
    12-29-2014 05:58 PM
  5. Surmisation's Avatar
    Awesome. Can you submit a screenshot of a speed test?

    Also, which frequency are bands 2 and 4?
    When I have full bars, LTE on cricket comes in at 8 down and up. This is expected as cricket's service is capped at those speeds.
    12-29-2014 06:26 PM
  6. Surmisation's Avatar
    Are you able to send and receive MMS?
    No MMS.

    Option to change MMS apn appears to be unavailable on ICON Lumia Black. Only internet apn can be altered.
    12-29-2014 06:28 PM
  7. legend921's Avatar
    Dang, I was hoping for all the features to work. I went ahead and bought a 930 and not use LTE. I have been trying out hspa+ for a couple of days on my 735 and the speed difference was negligible. Would still love to have LTE though.
    12-29-2014 07:17 PM
  8. Surmisation's Avatar
    Dang, I was hoping for all the features to work. I went ahead and bought a 930 and not use LTE. I have been trying out hspa+ for a couple of days on my 735 and the speed difference was negligible. Would still love to have LTE though.
    Are you saying that your choice is between LTE on the ICON vs. MMS on the 930?
    That's if bands 2 and 4 are available in your service area.
    Presuming they are, and even given Verizon's shytti support for the ICON thus far, that question isn't even a question :\
    12-29-2014 07:50 PM
  9. AR2186's Avatar
    Workaround to get MMS might be to downgrade to 8.0 with the AT&T SIM in, use Nokia Access 0
    Point to set MMS APN settings, then update to 8.1
    12-30-2014 07:47 AM
  10. shann123's Avatar
    I used an ATT SIM on Straight Talk and MMS worked fine (no LTE in my area). Download the Access Point app and the you should be able to set the MMS apn. I have a post that shows the ST apn, you'll have to find the right ones for Cricket. One word of caution, I'd you switch back to Verizon or PagePlus you'll have to manually set the apn.

    Feel free to PM me if you hit a roadblock. I think the best part about the Icon is being able to use it on most/all MVNOs
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    12-30-2014 08:47 AM
  11. AR2186's Avatar
    I used an ATT SIM on Straight Talk and MMS worked fine (no LTE in my area). Download the Access Point app and the you should be able to set the MMS apn. I have a post that shows the ST apn, you'll have to find the right ones for Cricket. One word of caution, I'd you switch back to Verizon or PagePlus you'll have to manually set the apn.

    Feel free to PM me if you hit a roadblock. I think the best part about the Icon is being able to use it on most/all MVNOs
    Only issue is that AccessPoint doesn't work in 8.1, so you have to downgrade to 8.0 first
    12-30-2014 10:07 AM
  12. jrdatrackstar1223's Avatar
    I am currently using my Icon on Verizon through Straight Talk and everything works perfectly fine. The activation kits now include Nano CDMA LTE Sim cards, so I was able to boot mine up no problems. I get full LTE, MMS works, literally how it would be on Verizon had I signed a contract for only $45 a month. On top of that, I only paid $80 for my Icon from a dude on Craigslist who didnt' know what he was selling lol...

    Might be worth investigating instead of having to go through hoops. I originally bought the Icon and planned on using it for Cricket, but then I decided on Straight Talk for their AT&T service (had been using them before and they offer the most data at 3GB). I went to Walmart to buy the activation kit and to my surprise the box said it sold every single SIM for any carrier. These kits now include AT&T Micro/Regular size (in a punch out card), AT&T Nano SIMS, Tmobile Micro/Regular size (in a punch out card), Tmobile Nano SIMs, and Verizon Micro/Regular size (in a punch out card) and Nano SIM cards. There were a total of 6 SIMs in the package and I was thrilled.
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    12-30-2014 12:35 PM
  13. Surmisation's Avatar
    I am currently using my Icon on Verizon through Straight Talk and everything works perfectly fine. The activation kits now include Nano CDMA LTE Sim cards, so I was able to boot mine up no problems. I get full LTE, MMS works, literally how it would be on Verizon had I signed a contract for only $45 a month. On top of that, I only paid $80 for my Icon from a dude on Craigslist who didnt' know what he was selling lol...

    Might be worth investigating instead of having to go through hoops. I originally bought the Icon and planned on using it for Cricket, but then I decided on Straight Talk for their AT&T service (had been using them before and they offer the most data at 3GB). I went to Walmart to buy the activation kit and to my surprise the box said it sold every single SIM for any carrier. These kits now include AT&T Micro/Regular size (in a punch out card), AT&T Nano SIMS, Tmobile Micro/Regular size (in a punch out card), Tmobile Nano SIMs, and Verizon Micro/Regular size (in a punch out card) and Nano SIM cards. There were a total of 6 SIMs in the package and I was thrilled.
    Straight Talk's website doesn't show any deals on multiple lines. Are there?
    12-30-2014 01:36 PM
  14. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Straight Talk's website doesn't show any deals on multiple lines. Are there?
    Nope...

    But I bailed on Cricket before I could even get started: http://forums.windowscentral.com/car...r-service.html

    Now I'm on ST and the transition was painless. Worth more to me than a few dollars to know I can go the self-service troubleshooting route. That is a MUST for being on an mvno, IMHO. http://forums.windowscentral.com/t-m...enta-lass.html
    12-30-2014 02:53 PM
  15. shann123's Avatar
    Only issue is that AccessPoint doesn't work in 8.1, so you have to downgrade to 8.0 first
    I'm using access point with the current DP, works fine for me
    12-30-2014 05:23 PM
  16. Surmisation's Avatar
    Nope...

    But I bailed on Cricket before I could even get started: http://forums.windowscentral.com/car...r-service.html

    Now I'm on ST and the transition was painless. Worth more to me than a few dollars to know I can go the self-service troubleshooting route. That is a MUST for being on an mvno, IMHO. http://forums.windowscentral.com/t-m...enta-lass.html
    Signing up through their website is a definite no-go. The latency really is unacceptable.

    To the larger issue... It truly is necessary to have a local location where issues can be resolved.
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    12-30-2014 05:32 PM
  17. legend921's Avatar
    Are you saying that your choice is between LTE on the ICON vs. MMS on the 930?
    That's if bands 2 and 4 are available in your service area.
    Presuming they are, and even given Verizon's shytti support for the ICON thus far, that question isn't even a question :\
    Yeah, it's not just mms. It's more of the hassle with dealing of downgrading the phone to windows 8.0 and I stall the APN app to update the settings for TMO and not all the features on the phone work consistently. As of now even being on FauxG the speed different is not as astronomical for everyday use. I am still able to stream video in HD and stream music with no hiccups. So I just went with that and got a bright colored 930 and denim. Plus I hate the Verizon branding on the phone.
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    12-30-2014 06:09 PM
  18. RumoredNow's Avatar
    It truly is necessary to have a local location where issues can be resolved.
    Really zero local support in my area right now for Cricket. Best Buy and Radio Shack have dropped them here.

    ​You are absolutely right. That would make a huge difference.
    12-30-2014 08:52 PM
  19. Mr Lebowski's Avatar
    Only issue is that AccessPoint doesn't work in 8.1, so you have to downgrade to 8.0 first
    If you open SIM settings in 8.1, add MMS APN appears along with Manual Internet APN/ edit internet APN and you have all the options AccessPoint has
    12-30-2014 11:51 PM
  20. BSobotta's Avatar
    Are you saying that your choice is between LTE on the ICON vs. MMS on the 930?
    That's if bands 2 and 4 are available in your service area.
    Presuming they are, and even given Verizon's shytti support for the ICON thus far, that question isn't even a question :\
    I got stuck with a work iPhone and HATE it. My family is still on att. I have a 1520 (currently on sale on eBay) that is just to big to carry around with my other phone (no service any more line given to kid). I am currently hoping off service off my work phones hot spot, which is ok.

    But in a week or so I am planning on picking up an icon. I would like to eventually use data on the thing, so this is possible good news.

    Preference leans towards a 930, but at almost double the price it would be hard to justify as a play phone.
    12-31-2014 07:11 AM
  21. realwarder's Avatar
    If you open SIM settings in 8.1, add MMS APN appears along with Manual Internet APN/ edit internet APN and you have all the options AccessPoint has
    Does this enable you to get AT&T MMS working? I might find one if it does!
    12-31-2014 07:38 AM
  22. jrdatrackstar1223's Avatar
    Straight Talk's website doesn't show any deals on multiple lines. Are there?
    No, but my wife and I both sign up for automatic payments and they take off an extra $5 from each line. After taxes I only end up paying $47 or so for my line. It really has been worth it. I get full LTE, MMS, everything. It really is hard to believe I am literally on Verizon right now because I never thought I would be able to use the Icon on Verizon because of how expensive they are (even their prepaid plans suck). Having Verizon with 3GB of LTE is awesome for only $47. I would seriously look into it. Yea, you have to be tech savvy and do self service if anything else goes wrong, but the amount of money you save you could practically just buy a new phone from the savings if something goes wrong.
    12-31-2014 09:22 AM
  23. Surmisation's Avatar
    If you open SIM settings in 8.1, add MMS APN appears along with Manual Internet APN/ edit internet APN and you have all the options AccessPoint has
    Does this enable you to get AT&T MMS working? I might find one if it does!
    Theoretically, it should.
    In actuality, the ICON on Developer Preview hides mms options which some other Lumias might allow.

    Denim may re-enable access point among other features. Alternatively, Denim may further hinder OS functions by restricting additional functions, per Verizon's mandate. It's just unknown until the firmware releases.

    What can be said as of December 31, 2014:
    The Lumia ICON with Lumia Black firmware, running WP 8.1.1 DP:


    is working with ATT LTE on bands 2 & 4
    does not provide options to set the mms apn
    12-31-2014 04:11 PM
  24. AR2186's Avatar
    If you open SIM settings in 8.1, add MMS APN appears along with Manual Internet APN/ edit internet APN and you have all the options AccessPoint has
    Verizon used the registry to hide it, only can change the Internet APN. I wouldn't post something that I hadn't personally tried/investigated
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    01-01-2015 08:53 AM
  25. mjoshi123's Avatar
    Thank you for this thread, looks like I may try out to buy unlocked ICON and see if that works with my current Cricket Wireless Account. Any thought ? I was looking for 930 but looks like all you can get is unlocked international version.
    01-05-2015 02:13 PM
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