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  1. mtalinm's Avatar
    hey I think I found a solution to the battery life problem. you won't like it, but just set your battery saver threshold to 90 or 95%. it's amazing now.

    sure, I don't get the toast notifications when someone retweeted my retweet, but on the other hand I'm not terrified of not being able to get calls and texts because Edge has swallowed my battery whole.

    (and yes, I have Edge disabled in the background...I'm not convinced it works. that app is a hog, also on the desktop.)
    11-04-2015 03:43 PM
  2. hopmedic's Avatar
    It's been since 2009 since I used them for insurance. I have one credit card with them now. They offer great services.

    Meanwhile...tick tick tick...still waiting on this upgrade to 10581 to complete. I wish there was a faster method, but I'd rather wait than deal with some of the brinking I've seen with Android phones! I have too many apps backed up.
    Ok - I didn't start using them until 2010, and use them for banking and insurance. It's funny when I call to hear them say "Thank you for more than 25 years of membership" since I only started using them in 2010. That goes back to when I was in the Navy - I was enlisted, so not a candidate for membership, except for some law in SC. A civilian who had them told me to apply, because there was a law that said they had to offer to all in SC. So I had insurance with them on my Gold Wing until I got out and moved back to IN, when they sent me a non-renewal notice, since I was no longer in SC. It wasn't until 2010 that I learned that they'd opened up to enlisted veterans, so I switched back, but they kept my membership alive all those years.
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    11-05-2015 07:28 AM
  3. shawnmos's Avatar
    Just installed the new Windows 10 build 10581, and I have a question - for the next build that is coming next week (supposedly), do we have to use the windows insider preview installer or can we just a "check for updates" on the latest build to get the update?

    Also, is it recommended to do a hard reset after each new build is installed?
    Need to have the windows insider app installed and set to fast ring to get it. Otherwise it won't update until the final Windows 10 build is released through Verizon. No need to do a hard reset unless you are experiencing problems.
    11-05-2015 12:09 PM
  4. spicypadthai's Avatar
    Otherwise it won't update until the final Windows 10 build is released through Verizon.
    Haha, good one.
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    11-05-2015 01:12 PM
  5. shawnmos's Avatar
    Haha, good one.
    Yeah, it'll take them a year (if at all).
    11-05-2015 02:54 PM
  6. tim sholar1's Avatar
    yeah i doubt there will be an update through verizon at all.... any new issues with the latest build that others should look out for?also how does everyone prefer/ suggest how to save contacts? with hotmail,google, or backup assistant plus in order to not lose contacts when going from 8.x to the windows 10 builds?
    11-06-2015 05:17 AM
  7. grafixguy#AC's Avatar
    Use an Outlook.com account and your contacts and calendar will follow you everywhere.
    spicypadthai and hopmedic like this.
    11-06-2015 08:41 AM
  8. ADufresne's Avatar
    As my Icon is my daily driver, I waited to get on the Win10 Insider Preview track until 10581 this past week.
    My path was: 8.1 (Denim) --> upgrade to 10581 via Insider Preview

    No problems in the upgrade itself. It did blaze through the first couple battery cycles and intermittently after boot ups the touchscreen was unresponsive so I decided to hard reset yesterday morning. Overall stability is very good and the battery life improved after the hard reset. Was hoping to say the unresponsive touchscreen issue was resolved but experienced it again this morning upon startup.

    The important thing is I'm comfortable with the reliability of 10581 on the phone I rely on. The Icon is still a great phone and the breath of Win10 fresh air should keep me happy (and on Verizon) until I make a decision on getting a 950 or something else next year.
    11-06-2015 11:15 AM
  9. wpfan2be's Avatar
    On the fence myself about upgrading to 10581 or wait until the next one. Still in 8.1. Wondering if MS will really deploy next week, or will only do so for PCs only...
    Should I ? :)
    11-06-2015 02:59 PM
  10. drtek's Avatar
    Doesn't look like that there will be a build before next week.
    11-06-2015 03:04 PM
  11. frankelweeze's Avatar
    Doesn't look like that there will be a build before next week.
    NPU says 10586 froze some devices in an endless boot loop.
    I think it will be fixed but roll out will be limited. 1520 and some develped units first. icon will benefit from 1520 exact specs but we won't get official. After time it will roll out to other devices.

    Although 10581 is pretty stable on my icon, still feel it's 1 or 2 builds from final rtm.
    MikeSo likes this.
    11-07-2015 12:51 AM
  12. wpfan2be's Avatar
    So I did end up upgrading to windows 10 10581. Amazed at how smooth it went. Everything is working, Band 2 works as expected, all BT connections are good, WiFi is good, all so far so good. Slo Mo is pretty cool. No hard reset. No issues so far.
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    11-07-2015 08:17 AM
  13. MikeSo's Avatar
    Overall the 10581 build is solid. But the individual apps like Mail, Groove etc all have little annoying bugs or missing features that I hope will be taken care of before official release. Since I listen to a lot of music on my Icon, the bugs related to how Groove can't properly resume music is especially galling.
    11-07-2015 10:02 AM
  14. grafixguy#AC's Avatar
    Took the plunge last night. Overall a positive experience, but Edge crashes immediately upon launch. Besides that individual apps are running pretty well with a few scattered exceptions such as Runtastic which crashes.

    I may do a hard reset to see if that fixes those issues.

    Edit: Wound up doing the hard reset. Phone is still going through the restore but Runtastic is not crashing now so I'm hoping this clears up the little stuff.
    Last edited by grafixguy#AC; 11-07-2015 at 08:47 PM. Reason: add'l info
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    11-07-2015 03:08 PM
  15. angeredsmile's Avatar
    It's working wonderful for me. Not a final build quality but getting close
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    11-08-2015 07:31 AM
  16. Todd Acheson's Avatar
    DId anyone else have issues like an endless cycle of downloading and preparing to install 10581, but it won't install? Error code 0x800070538 presented with a Retry button?
    I've tried soft-reset and hard-reset multiple times, but still stuck in the endless cycle.
    Currently on build 10572, NOKIA Lumia 929 ICON
    11-08-2015 01:51 PM
  17. hopmedic's Avatar
    DId anyone else have issues like an endless cycle of downloading and preparing to install 10581, but it won't install? Error code 0x800070538 presented with a Retry button?
    I've tried soft-reset and hard-reset multiple times, but still stuck in the endless cycle.
    Currently on build 10572, NOKIA Lumia 929 ICON
    This didn't happen to me, but my suggestion would be to use the Windows Device Recovery Tool to go back to 8.1 (or was it 8.0? - no matter...) and then do the upgrade from there. Note that even though your phone says Nokia on it, you'll use the Windows recovery tool, not the Nokia one. I'd go back to 8, install the Windows Insider app to get the 10 builds, update to 10, and then restore the phone in order to restore a backup. Less "junk" in the way of the upgrade process that way. Not required, but that's how I'd do it.
    11-08-2015 05:32 PM
  18. Chris Phelps's Avatar
    Anyone having issues with streaming video from websites? I haven't done a hard reset yet (don't want to unless I absolutely have to), but for me, nothing will play.

    I also have a bug on two of my Icons where the screen will stop responding to touch. Its only happened once per phone since the update, and a hard reboot took care of it.

    Otherwise, I am extremely impressed by this build. Especially considering that it seemed like everything was broken with the last build. Major leap forward.
    11-08-2015 08:44 PM
  19. Todd Acheson's Avatar
    Gracias for the sound advice hopmedic.
    I'm back on the good path
    Last edited by Todd Acheson; 11-08-2015 at 10:20 PM.
    11-08-2015 09:07 PM
  20. MikeSo's Avatar
    I went to a concert last night, and recorded a couple of songs. I've done that before, with WP 8.1 on my Lumia Icon. They sounded and looked very good.

    This time, the recording (using the Camera app - not Lumia Camera), looked good, but the sound was horrible and only in mono. Can someone else with Windows 10 Mobile Build 10581 on their Lumia verify that it only records in mono?? That seems absolutely insane, so I can only assume it's a bug. Also, the Camera app, as opposed to Lumia Camera (which no longer opens!) doesn't have the audio adjustment settings (surround, bass cutoff). I am really irritated with it today...
    Last edited by MikeSo; 11-09-2015 at 02:28 PM.
    11-09-2015 01:47 PM
  21. IcyPwnage's Avatar
    I went to a concert last night, and recorded a couple of songs. I've done that before, with WP 8.1 on my Lumia Icon. They sounded and looked very good.

    This time, the recording (using the Camera app - not Lumia Camera), looked good, but the sound was horrible and only in mono. Can someone else with Windows 10 Mobile Build 10581 on their Lumia verify that it only records in mono?? That seems absolutely insane, so I can only assume it's a bug. Also, the Camera app, as opposed to Lumia Camera (which no longer opens!) doesn't have the audio adjustment settings (surround, bass cutoff). I am really irritated with it today...
    I am on 10581 as well... Just tested it and windows camera only records mono sound and the quality is terrible
    11-09-2015 04:59 PM
  22. mike208's Avatar
    I was just thinking of making the jump, but mono and terrible sound quality...I think I'll wait
    11-09-2015 05:12 PM
  23. MikeSo's Avatar
    I am on 10581 as well... Just tested it and windows camera only records mono sound and the quality is terrible
    Thanks for checking.

    How is such an oversight even possible? I really hope they fix this, OR allow us to use Lumia Camera again. We have a choice of default app now, so why they don't allow Lumia Camera to open is a mystery.

    I need to check if some other video recording app exists and will record in stereo. This is so far the weirdest bug I've seen.
    11-09-2015 07:42 PM
  24. shawnmos's Avatar
    As my Icon is my daily driver, I waited to get on the Win10 Insider Preview track until 10581 this past week.
    My path was: 8.1 (Denim) --> upgrade to 10581 via Insider Preview

    No problems in the upgrade itself. It did blaze through the first couple battery cycles and intermittently after boot ups the touchscreen was unresponsive so I decided to hard reset yesterday morning. Overall stability is very good and the battery life improved after the hard reset. Was hoping to say the unresponsive touchscreen issue was resolved but experienced it again this morning upon startup.

    The important thing is I'm comfortable with the reliability of 10581 on the phone I rely on. The Icon is still a great phone and the breath of Win10 fresh air should keep me happy (and on Verizon) until I make a decision on getting a 950 or something else next year.
    I have noticed that the touch screen doesn't work if the phone isn't on when you connect it to the charger. It will boot up when you plug it in but touchscreen is not responsive. Only solution is to turn it on before you connect it to the charger. However if it's already completely dead that's not always an option. Just have to force a reboot at that point.

    I think the problem is Windows 10 now supports charging while off. However, the Icon's firmware hasn't been updated to support this feature and the OS tries to boot, but not all of the required drivers are loaded (touchscreen). That's my theory anyway.
    11-09-2015 11:13 PM
  25. IcyPwnage's Avatar
    Lumia Camera and Lumia Camera Beta both open on my Icon, neither can record video though...
    11-10-2015 10:06 AM
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