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  1. SteveNoza's Avatar
    That makes sense. =/ They'll "try" and push people to get new phones. What W10 line of phones do they have?
    Big fat 0
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    03-19-2016 09:08 PM
  2. grafixguy#AC's Avatar
    I think the issue is with Verizon. They EOL'd the phone last year, so they probably don't want to approve an update for a phone they no longer support. I think Microsoft is in talks with them, if I understand a few Tweets I read.
    Actually, they EOLed it in 2014 about 6 months after release. This phone, effectively, was DOA.

    I was one of the loudest protesters but I'm done. MSFT clearly is more interested in supporting Android and iOS with its mobile strategy and who can blame them? They were simply too late to the table. There are no true flagship Windows phones and the app gap has gotten worse instead of better.

    I know enough to get off a sinking ship.
    03-20-2016 08:41 AM
  3. jazz70's Avatar
    Actually, they EOLed it in 2014 about 6 months after release. This phone, effectively, was DOA.

    I was one of the loudest protesters but I'm done. MSFT clearly is more interested in supporting Android and iOS with its mobile strategy and who can blame them? They were simply too late to the table. There are no true flagship Windows phones and the app gap has gotten worse instead of better.

    I know enough to get off a sinking ship.
    Sadly I'm starting to lean in this direction myself, I love the WP platform but it is hard right now to see a light at the end of this tunnel. I am not in love with the idea of leaving WP and going back to droid but with all the uncertainly of what is going on with the WP platform and the abysmal support WP gets from Verizon it may be time for a switch.

    I can run droid now using many MS apps and services that were not available when I last used droid so that may ease my reservations of switching back to droid and I can allways switch back to WP once I get a better idea of what phones will be available and what kind of support there will be for the platform in the future.
    03-20-2016 02:16 PM
  4. grafixguy#AC's Avatar
    I bought the Galaxy S7 Edge. This is the nicest phone I've ever held in my hands. It is what a flagship device should be.
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    03-20-2016 02:40 PM
  5. frankelweeze's Avatar
    I had an S5. My biggest problem with Samsung is I hate touch wiz, and I don't want to void my warranty by putting the OS I want on it.
    Really got tired of tinkering with Android. For me it's more so the software than the hardware.
    03-20-2016 08:42 PM
  6. grafixguy#AC's Avatar
    I had an S5. My biggest problem with Samsung is I hate touch wiz, and I don't want to void my warranty by putting the OS I want on it.
    Really got tired of tinkering with Android. For me it's more so the software than the hardware.
    I had an S3 and my daughter has an S5. The Touch Wiz interface is not nearly as intrusive at it once was. I don't even feel any great need to put a new launcher on it.
    03-21-2016 08:56 AM
  7. Roy Walton's Avatar
    Eh, no big deal to me. My Icon runs awesome on 8.1.1. I have no issues with BT connectivity to my hands-free devices, vehicles or my Band 2.
    I'm curious, you say your Icon runs 8.1.1 and works with your Band 2? I won't bore you with the details, but that was the original reason I started messing with my Icon and Band (v1) -- I ended up bricking the Band (but had it replaced for free at the NYC MS store), and factory reset my phone to 8.10.14219.341, after running various preview/developer versions over the last year or so. Now the Microsoft Health app (and several other apps) won't run -- they start and crash back to the home screen. Are you using Health with your Band 2? Is there a fix I'm missing?
    Last edited by Roy Walton; 03-21-2016 at 09:00 PM.
    03-21-2016 02:49 PM
  8. 11B1P's Avatar
    Yes, use the Health app daily. There have been several updates to the app over the last month. The app is currently at build 2.0.4313.0 26R. I also had a Band 1 and it functioned with my Icon great as well.

    My Icon is pure stock. No dev builds or Insider Program builds. With the amount of issues we're seeing with 10, I'm amazed at the amount of people itching to upgrade.
    03-21-2016 11:31 PM
  9. Roy Walton's Avatar
    Yes, use the Health app daily. There have been several updates to the app over the last month. The app is currently at build 2.0.4313.0 26R. I also had a Band 1 and it functioned with my Icon great as well.

    My Icon is pure stock. No dev builds or Insider Program builds. With the amount of issues we're seeing with 10, I'm amazed at the amount of people itching to upgrade.
    That's odd -- as I said, I factory reset my phone, so I have a clean 8.1.1 build at this point as well. There must have been an incremental update that you received along the way, even recognizing they were all production releases.

    By the way, the biggest reason I am trying to get to 10 is in the hope that Microsoft Health will start working again! I'd be fine with 8.1 otherwise...

    EDIT: I now see the current version of Health on the app store is 2016.315.647.0. Can't confirm whether that jibes with what I have installed since I can't start the app. Curiouser and curiouser...
    Last edited by Roy Walton; 03-22-2016 at 09:23 AM.
    03-22-2016 08:51 AM
  10. 11B1P's Avatar
    Oh crap, hang on. The version I quoted is my Band 2 version. Let me check my app and see what it states.

    Exit. Ok, my Health app is at 1.3.20314.1

    Have you tried resetting the Band as well?
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    03-22-2016 03:47 PM
  11. Roy Walton's Avatar
    Have you tried resetting the Band as well?
    That's how I bricked my last one In any case, this morning I unboxed the replacement Band and have been messing with it. I have it syncing to the Health app I have sideloaded on my Fire tablet (had forgotten about that), but I still can't get the Health app to start on my phone or even connect via Bluetooth. I can pair them, but they won't stay connected. I tried forgetting the Band, rebooting one or both devices, etc., no love. And since I don't have Health on the phone, I can't do the initial pairing to the phone, since I need Health to finish the Band setup. At one point, I did have the Band showing it was paired to my phone rather than the Fire in the utilities menu -- not sure how I did it -- but I still couldn't keep them connected via Bluetooth.

    Interestingly, I found a 3rd-party app (Band Sensor Monitor) that will keep them connected if it's running in the foreground or background on the phone, but that didn't help with the Health problem. I was hoping another Band app might have drivers or bits of code that the Health app is missing... I'd be ok with just using Health on the Fire and getting notifications from the phone on the Band, but I can't figure out how to get the latter to work without the Health app and (obviously) a consistent Bluetooth connection.

    Thanks for your input, by the way, I really appreciate it!
    03-23-2016 11:32 AM
  12. loki993's Avatar
    Actually, they EOLed it in 2014 about 6 months after release. This phone, effectively, was DOA.

    I was one of the loudest protesters but I'm done. MSFT clearly is more interested in supporting Android and iOS with its mobile strategy and who can blame them? They were simply too late to the table. There are no true flagship Windows phones and the app gap has gotten worse instead of better.

    I know enough to get off a sinking ship.
    Couldn't agree more...especially with the apps we do have are usually worse than their android counterparts or just completely half assed. I mean seriously the facebook app on my Icon STILL is not as good as the android app I had on my HTC phone 2 years ago...



    I bought the Galaxy S7 Edge. This is the nicest phone I've ever held in my hands. It is what a flagship device should be.
    For 800 bucks it damn well better be....
    03-23-2016 01:20 PM
  13. beantownsouth's Avatar
    Well I took the plunge to WP10 on my Icon and so far so good. Talk about a major upgrade from Denim. I like everything I have seen with it so far. No issues to be found with the latest build, knock on wood. I swear they could re-launch this phone and it would still be a hit. For Verizon it would still be a flagship phone considering they offer nothing at this time. I really hope MS includes the Icon. It would be a shame to have to dump this phone!
    03-24-2016 11:21 AM
  14. DavidinCT's Avatar
    I bought the Galaxy S7 Edge. This is the nicest phone I've ever held in my hands. It is what a flagship device should be.
    Good you pay $800 for a device. I have a LG G3 and paid under $75 for it and it's a major step up in hardware over the ICON...

    If I was going Android perm, I think the LG models are really slick and slim over the buggy Samsung devices, still the S7 edge is a nice looking phone.

    Sorry guys who know me, I am deciding if I am going to another phone for a while, after the ICON getting S.C.R.E.W.E.D. over by Microsoft and Verizon from getting the official W10M final, I might be changing for a while.

    The ICON is the EXACT phone as the 930 besides they enabled CDMA on the ICON, just because of that we got stiffed...and I am ticked about it..

    Thanks Microsoft, a great way to keep loyal fans....
    03-24-2016 07:45 PM
  15. anywhereanytime's Avatar
    Well I took the plunge to WP10 on my Icon and so far so good. Talk about a major upgrade from Denim. I like everything I have seen with it so far. No issues to be found with the latest build, knock on wood. I swear they could re-launch this phone and it would still be a hit. For Verizon it would still be a flagship phone considering they offer nothing at this time. I really hope MS includes the Icon. It would be a shame to have to dump this phone!
    I am a VERY HAPPY "ICON" user since September 2014 ... do we yet know "how many ICON users there are in the US"?

    A business friend in the UK with a 930 "used the Upgrade App" and VOILA he now has Windows Phone 10 + says, less than a week later that an update was "successfully" pushed!

    ANYONE?
    03-24-2016 10:14 PM
  16. anywhereanytime's Avatar
    From the VP of Microsoft Mobile Gabe Aul and the infamous "All Thing Microsoft news anchor" Mary Jo Foley ...

    Verizon's Nokia Lumia Icon is being considered for Windows 10 Mobile update - GSMArena.com news
    03-24-2016 10:19 PM
  17. anywhereanytime's Avatar
    I am NOT a Verizon "consumer" but a "business user" = how many of you are ""Icon BUSINESS users"?
    03-24-2016 11:46 PM
  18. beantownsouth's Avatar
    I am NOT a Verizon "consumer" but a "business user" = how many of you are ""Icon BUSINESS users"?
    I'm not only a Verizon consumer, but a Icon business user also. I access a ton of documents on my Icon at work from live.com. Since I am the IT administrator at work it's an essential part of my work tools. The Apple and Android users are amazed at what my Icon can accomplish on our network. I got the "Your phone looks just like your work PC desktop. How did you do that?". LOL We can be at a off campus meeting and they ask about a spreadsheet and I open my Icon. The look on their faces are priceless.
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    03-25-2016 07:27 AM
  19. 11B1P's Avatar
    That's how I bricked my last one In any case, this morning I unboxed the replacement Band and have been messing with it. I have it syncing to the Health app I have sideloaded on my Fire tablet (had forgotten about that), but I still can't get the Health app to start on my phone or even connect via Bluetooth. I can pair them, but they won't stay connected. I tried forgetting the Band, rebooting one or both devices, etc., no love. And since I don't have Health on the phone, I can't do the initial pairing to the phone, since I need Health to finish the Band setup. At one point, I did have the Band showing it was paired to my phone rather than the Fire in the utilities menu -- not sure how I did it -- but I still couldn't keep them connected via Bluetooth.

    Interestingly, I found a 3rd-party app (Band Sensor Monitor) that will keep them connected if it's running in the foreground or background on the phone, but that didn't help with the Health problem. I was hoping another Band app might have drivers or bits of code that the Health app is missing... I'd be ok with just using Health on the Fire and getting notifications from the phone on the Band, but I can't figure out how to get the latter to work without the Health app and (obviously) a consistent Bluetooth connection.

    Thanks for your input, by the way, I really appreciate it!
    You have the Health app sideloaded on your Kindle...have you tried deleting that? Maybe it's causing the issue? Your Band can't connect via BT to two different devices.

    I would delete all instances of any Band in your BT setting on your phone. Reset the Band. Delete any trace of the Health app on your phone. Reboot your phone. Make sure you have a strong wifi or cellular connection and try downloading the Health app again. The Health app should download, irrespective of the Band.
    Last edited by 11B1P; 03-25-2016 at 08:30 AM.
    03-25-2016 07:33 AM
  20. anywhereanytime's Avatar
    THANK YOU Gabe Aul and Mary Jo Foley !!!!!!!!!

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    03-25-2016 09:29 AM
  21. js14873's Avatar
    Ok now, does this mean the icon is now a part of Windows 10 devices moving forward? Including insider builds (and later OTA releases) beyond 10586? I haven't seen a formal announcement other than Aul saying a week ago the Icon was still being considered...
    03-25-2016 10:21 AM
  22. anywhereanytime's Avatar
    Ok now, does this mean the icon is now a part of Windows 10 devices moving forward? Including insider builds (and later OTA releases) beyond 10586? I haven't seen a formal announcement other than Aul saying a week ago the Icon was still being considered...
    I don't know, but since March 17th, when I DL'd the Microsoft "Upgrade Advisor App" on my Lumia, the "message was different UNTIL TODAY" - last 7 days it said something like "we are evaluating whether you phone can be upgraded" (or something similar) but it did NOT say "SORRY, you are screwed" like I hear Lumia 920 users are?

    As I mentioned, my friends in the UK with their 930's have now had TWO updates pushed within the last week - by Microsoft and NOT by the carrier!

    So ... fingers crossed !
    03-25-2016 10:48 AM
  23. spicypadthai's Avatar
    I don't know, but since March 17th, when I DL'd the Microsoft "Upgrade Advisor App" on my Lumia, the "message was different UNTIL TODAY" - last 7 days it said something like "we are evaluating whether you phone can be upgraded" (or something similar) but it did NOT say "SORRY, you are screwed" like I hear Lumia 920 users are?

    As I mentioned, my friends in the UK with their 930's have now had TWO updates pushed within the last week - by Microsoft and NOT by the carrier!

    So ... fingers crossed !
    FWIW, I'm still getting "trying to determine if you phone can support Windows 10".
    03-25-2016 10:54 AM
  24. anywhereanytime's Avatar
    Mine "just changed this morning", said that yesterday
    03-25-2016 11:07 AM
  25. spicypadthai's Avatar
    Mine "just changed this morning", said that yesterday
    I checked today, after you posted, and again 30 seconds ago. Same "trying to determine message". But I hope you're correct. Where are you located?
    03-25-2016 11:21 AM
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