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  1. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    This was suspected to be the case earlier. But the official announcement of the Windows 10 Mobile roll out confirmed it here. http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/i...2004122&auth=1

    Q: I’m currently using a Windows 10 Insider build on my device, but it is not on the list of devices that will receive a formal Windows 10 update. What should I expect in the future?

    A: If you already have the Windows 10 Mobile Insider Preview build on your device, you may keep using your device in an unsupported state. We will not be offering build updates beyond the Current Branch build 10586. At some point in the future these devices will also stop receiving updates to the Windows 10 Mobile Insider Preview build.
    In order to recover the devices back to a supported build of Windows Phone 8.1, you may use the Windows Device Recovery Tool. There are more details on the use of the Windows Device Recovery Tool within this forum post.
    This is discouraging, but not surprising. The 930, 830, and 1520 all will receive the official update. http://forums.windowscentral.com/e?l...token=MurtholQ

    So you figure, it's probably Verizon that's causing the hold up. Then the really discouraging AND surprising bit comes into play. The Lumia 735, which is sold by Verizon, WILL get the update. Alright... So what we have here is an issue with the Icon being EoL, and therefore, unfit for an update. Thanks, Verizon!

    Thoughts?
    Last edited by Indistinguishable; 03-18-2016 at 08:42 AM. Reason: Edit: Lumia 735 is not a Verizon exclusive.
    03-17-2016 11:45 AM
  2. tearfalls's Avatar
    That is pathetic. I'm leaving Verizon if that is actually the case.
    03-17-2016 12:22 PM
  3. frankelweeze's Avatar
    Unfortunately I'm probably leaving Windows Phone. I have two Icon's (one for me, one for the wife) and we have waited forever for a suitable replacement on Verizon but the 730 is not that phone. We're both Windows Insiders, but for work reasons we can't leave Verizon. The Insider program made this phone relevant for another 6 months at least!
    Before we met we were Android users, switched to WP and got married during it all.

    We'll be back...... maybe.......
    03-17-2016 01:58 PM
  4. js14873's Avatar
    that blows. I bought the Icon in December to replace my ATIV SE specifically because I was stuck with Verizon and based on the Icon's inclusion in the insider program I thought it would be getting the public OTA W10 release.

    I'm also starting a new job in a 2 weeks that doesn't pay for my phone plan, so the entire situation that led to the purchase is no longer in place. Should have saved my money and stuck with the ATIV SE for a little longer.
    03-17-2016 02:09 PM
  5. Vallos's Avatar
    This wouldn't be so dramatic, if we knew Verizon would support Windows Phone. I'll give Verizon until the end of the year for movement on that front, otherwise, I'm heading to AT&T.
    03-17-2016 02:53 PM
  6. hawwie_4's Avatar
    So for those of us who didn't already have W10 mobile insider updates on our Icons should we sign up for those insider builds for W10 mobile? Is the last version the same as the OTA version?
    03-17-2016 03:00 PM
  7. Bagzton's Avatar
    I have an unlocked 920, not listed among the devices getting W10 and also won't be receiving further builds too. I've been sad since I read this.
    03-17-2016 03:38 PM
  8. SpaceyO's Avatar
    This is absolute bull****.

    I'm upset with MS, I'm upset with Verizon. I'm also stuck on Verizon and was considering going to Android when upgrade time comes along (January). I've been using Windows 10 on the Icon since July and don't see myself going back to 8.1. All I can hope is that build I'm on now holds out until January. If not, I may have to eat an early upgrade fee...
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    03-17-2016 04:45 PM
  9. David Feifer's Avatar
    IS the 735 exclusive to Verizon? I did a little searching and found a few review entries of people swapping out the sim and using it on other carriers. Looking at the current supported list it seems to be that all the phones listed are multiband/multicarrier phones.. Think we are just out of luck because the icon is cdma only.
    03-17-2016 05:22 PM
  10. mrdeeds_72's Avatar
    I am truly disappointed and disheartened and disgusted. I have a been a long suffering Windows Mobile supporter ever since 6.5, defending and championing the OS to all the BB, IOS and Android users. The Icon meets all the specs, exclusion from even the Insider Program is asinine. I am truly reconsidering my support of Microsoft in general and that includes PC and Xbox.
    wpn00b likes this.
    03-17-2016 05:26 PM
  11. feeked's Avatar
    I'm not really surprised that the icon isn't getting the update OTA, but the fact that it's being abandoned in the insider program by MS is horse****.

    I have to imagine that this boils down to the desire of having simplistic language on who gets the update and who gets insider builds. I'm sure some 930s will never see it OTA, but since the icon is ONLY on Verizon, and they're not going to release it OTA, and rather than make exceptions for the insider program, they opted to just drop it completely.

    Which is ******* horse****. Just let it get insider builds, and if anyone asks just say that it's technically a 930.

    ****

    This is the closest I've come to considering a different platform. Been on here since the day the Trophy was released
    03-17-2016 07:54 PM
  12. grafixguy#AC's Avatar
    As I mentioned in your other thread, I give up. Between lack of hardware and apps, Win 10 Mobile is doomed to third class status. It's sad but true. Hanging on at this point is, well, pointless.
    03-17-2016 07:56 PM
  13. gamerweirdo's Avatar
    What about this though?
    I thought this only means that we are not getting it today, but will get the official update.
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    03-17-2016 08:08 PM
  14. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    What about this though?
    I thought this only means that we are not getting it today, but will get the official update.
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    What am I looking at? Is that just the upgrade screen for an Icon on the slow ring going from WP8.1 to Windows 10 Mobile?
    03-17-2016 09:54 PM
  15. Marlon Fraser's Avatar
    Is that screen shot on the Icon?
    03-17-2016 10:02 PM
  16. Tjarren's Avatar
    I've read about and seen this on reddit. Can anyone else recreate this? I couldn't even download the app (still on W8.1).
    03-17-2016 10:16 PM
  17. FXi2's Avatar
    Let's relax a touch and see how this plays out. The 735 getting an update at least indicates that VZ is playing ball, right? No Win 10 device will not be able to get updates straight from MS. That means VZ is dealing with it, perhaps even supportive, never know. But we were told if you were in the short term determined to have an upgrade you'd have to go to ATT. So that choice may be how it plays out. But we didn't come this far to just make conclusions so quick. I may highly prefer VZ but I can go where I need. So I'm going to wait and see.
    03-17-2016 11:41 PM
  18. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    I am truly disappointed and disheartened and disgusted. I have a been a long suffering Windows Mobile supporter ever since 6.5, defending and championing the OS to all the BB, IOS and Android users. The Icon meets all the specs, exclusion from even the Insider Program is asinine. I am truly reconsidering my support of Microsoft in general and that includes PC and Xbox.
    I can understand leaving mobile but it's a tad over the top to leave the entire ecosystem.
    But eh to each their own.

    It's no surprise considering how bad the icon got shafted. Shame people are wired to Verizon.gsm is the way to go.
    mrdeeds_72 likes this.
    03-17-2016 11:57 PM
  19. xandros9's Avatar
    Let's relax a touch and see how this plays out. The 735 getting an update at least indicates that VZ is playing ball, right? No Win 10 device will not be able to get updates straight from MS. That means VZ is dealing with it, perhaps even supportive, never know. But we were told if you were in the short term determined to have an upgrade you'd have to go to ATT. So that choice may be how it plays out. But we didn't come this far to just make conclusions so quick. I may highly prefer VZ but I can go where I need. So I'm going to wait and see.
    It also means that the 735 is sold unlocked and not as a VZW exclusive.
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    03-18-2016 01:03 AM
  20. grafixguy#AC's Avatar
    I can understand leaving mobile but it's a tad over the top to leave the entire ecosystem.
    But eh to each their own.
    Agreed. I love Win 10 on the desktop and the first apps I installed on my Galaxy S7 Edge were the Microsoft apps and Cortana. Outlook is my default calendar and mail app and Cortana works quite nicely on Android.

    I miss the live tiles but widgets do a good job of filling any need I have. I don't regret buying the Icon a couple of years ago, but it's time to throw in the towel. The app gap has actually gotten worse; something I didn't really know until I got the Edge and MSFT is obviously supporting Android quite nicely; better than their own mobile O/S from what I can see.
    mrdeeds_72 likes this.
    03-18-2016 06:37 AM
  21. Grzenek's Avatar
    Guys I'm running Windows Insider since Day One on my Icon. All works without major problems. Go ahead install it before its too late and enjoy.
    MS will support it for sometime, looks like. There should be more phones coming so we can switch when the time is right.
    mrdeeds_72 likes this.
    03-18-2016 07:45 AM
  22. gamerweirdo's Avatar
    Yes, that's a screenshot from yesterday on my Icon using the "Upgrade Advisor" app. Unfortunately this is what I see when I try today (does not look promising):
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    03-18-2016 08:13 AM
  23. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    It also means that the 735 is sold unlocked and not as a VZW exclusive.
    Correct. I misspoke there. The Lumia 735 is not a Verizon exclusive. But it is carried by Verizon.
    03-18-2016 08:43 AM
  24. nx_2000's Avatar
    Yes, that's a screenshot from yesterday on my Icon using the "Upgrade Advisor" app. Unfortunately this is what I see when I try today (does not look promising):
    I got this message in subsequent runs of the adviser. The first time I ran it though, I saw this:

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    03-18-2016 11:00 AM
  25. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    Here is why the Lumia 1020 (and likely other phones) are not getting Windows 10 Mobile | Windows Central

    In other words, if you don't like some of the choices or directions Microsoft is making here you can lay the "blame" at your fellow Windows Phone users who evidently gave very honest feedback about the Insider experience.
    I blame all of you.

    But really, are the 930 and the Icon different enough to disqualify/qualify either one of them for an upgrade? I wouldn't think so. Just like pushing Cyan to the 930 shouldn't have been that different from pushing Cyan to the Icon. There's more to this than meets the eye. The Icon is an old phone, left in the dust by the carrier that had it as an "exclusive." This means fewer people now own it, it's not supported, and there's little incentive for Microsoft to fight for it to have an upgrade path forward.
    03-18-2016 11:37 AM
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