05-06-2016 11:37 PM
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  1. Bob Singer's Avatar
    Does this root tool only work on Icons with Windows 10 developer preview?

    Stupidly, I rolled my Icon back to 8.1 and installed the Windows Insider app, re-enrolled, but am not getting the option to install the dev preview again. My guess is that since MS declared that the Icon wasn't going to be on the list of those to get Redstone, they cutoff any new or re-installs even by those already 'insiders'. I've attempted to install root tool on my Icon now running 8.1 using several different tools ( XapDeploy.exe, Xap Deployer 2). No luck so far. I've searched through the XD developers forums for interop unlock tools, but all seem to require an SD card. (No SD card in the Icon.)

    Any ideas how I can proceed to get Windows 10 back on my Icon would be greatly appreciated.
    04-10-2016 08:47 PM
  2. FearL0rd's Avatar
    Does this root tool only work on Icons with Windows 10 developer preview?

    Stupidly, I rolled my Icon back to 8.1 and installed the Windows Insider app, re-enrolled, but am not getting the option to install the dev preview again. My guess is that since MS declared that the Icon wasn't going to be on the list of those to get Redstone, they cutoff any new or re-installs even by those already 'insiders'. I've attempted to install root tool on my Icon now running 8.1 using several different tools ( XapDeploy.exe, Xap Deployer 2). No luck so far. I've searched through the XD developers forums for interop unlock tools, but all seem to require an SD card. (No SD card in the Icon.)

    Any ideas how I can proceed to get Windows 10 back on my Icon would be greatly appreciated.
    you have to install W10 first before you do this for redstone. not way to have root tool with 8.1 on Icon
    04-11-2016 07:16 AM
  3. FearL0rd's Avatar
    Okay forgive me but I might be mentally challenged. I deployed the root tool but where do you change the settings HKLM>System>Platform>DeviceTargetingInfo. Is this done on the computer or the phone because I cant seem to find this setting. Thanks for any help.
    Do this using root tool on icon not computer
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    04-11-2016 07:17 AM
  4. Bob Singer's Avatar
    That was the answer. When I'd reinstalled the Windows Insider app and re-registered, I'd opted for 'Insider Fast' thinking that would be, you know, faster. Last night, mostly out of frustration, I decided to toggle to a different option with the plan of toggling back. I didn't need to toggle back. The minute I chose 'Insider Release Preview' I received a notification for an update. This installed Windows 10 again. After this, I was able to install the root tool easily and root my Icon. I'm now running Redstone and it's working great!

    Thank you, FearL0rd!
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    04-11-2016 12:16 PM
  5. FearL0rd's Avatar
    That was the answer. When I'd reinstalled the Windows Insider app and re-registered, I'd opted for 'Insider Fast' thinking that would be, you know, faster. Last night, mostly out of frustration, I decided to toggle to a different option with the plan of toggling back. I didn't need to toggle back. The minute I chose 'Insider Release Preview' I received a notification for an update. This installed Windows 10 again. After this, I was able to install the root tool easily and root my Icon. I'm now running Redstone and it's working great!

    Thank you, FearL0rd!
    Welcome :)
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    04-11-2016 03:05 PM
  6. Grzenek's Avatar
    Here you go.
    Manual to get ANY build of Windows 10 Mobile on ANY Lumia
    I used 950 XL setup first, but there was many issues. Then, I recovered to 8.1 using Windows Device Recovery Tool and installed Insider Preview all the way to 10586.164. Next, applied above again with FearL0rd's 930 lines (need to jailbrake lumia to apply registry lines using Custom PFD editor). Now the phone works great!!! Good luck.
    Thank you FearL0rd!!!

    5 DAY LATER
    It still works great!!! No single OS issue. It is actually strange feeling that all works well. Used slow ring to get to 14295.
    One thing though. After upgrade go to setting->Battery saver->Battery saver settings and add only apps you want to work in background. Right after my upgrade, I had all apps included and battery got killed after few hours. After I changed to run only communication apps, battery hold very well.
    Last edited by Grzenek; 04-17-2016 at 11:04 PM.
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    04-11-2016 07:22 PM
  7. DavidinCT's Avatar
    So, people who have done this and now been using it for a week or 2, How is battery life ? Is it finally up to 8.1 levels ?

    If battery is noticablly better, it might be worth it..

    AND one missing thing, if you leave Cortana on to reply to texts, will she mute if you hit the volume/power button ?
    04-12-2016 07:58 AM
  8. dsdmarin's Avatar
    HI
    I have the registry editor (root tool) installed on my Icon. I am able to read the registry values, but I am not sure if it is taking the new values. After I write the new values I read the values again it goes back to the old value. Is there something I need to do to make the values save?

    Thanks
    04-12-2016 09:14 PM
  9. FearL0rd's Avatar
    HI
    I have the registry editor (root tool) installed on my Icon. I am able to read the registry values, but I am not sure if it is taking the new values. After I write the new values I read the values again it goes back to the old value. Is there something I need to do to make the values save?

    Thanks
    I had the same issue. When you open Root Tool, select Fol All Windows Device no Lumia. When you say White you should get a message True
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    04-13-2016 07:52 AM
  10. dsdmarin's Avatar
    Originally posted by FearL0rd
    Originally Posted by dsdmarin
    HI
    I have the registry editor (root tool) installed on my Icon. I am able to read the registry values, but I am not sure if it is taking the new values. After I write the new values I read the values again it goes back to the old value. Is there something I need to do to make the values save?

    Thanks
    I had the same issue. When you open Root Tool, select Fol All Windows Device no Lumia. When you say White you should get a message True
    04-13-2016 08:10 PM
  11. 64GUNSHIP's Avatar
    Lots of people over at XDA saying build 14322 sent the device into reboot loops, I have successfully upgraded my Icon with no issues, just an FYI for everyone. :)
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    04-14-2016 05:39 PM
  12. dsdmarin's Avatar
    Thanks so much worked perfectly!!!
    04-14-2016 08:41 PM
  13. shawnmos's Avatar
    Just did this on mine (before I found your guide) and only changed PhoneModelName to Lumia 930. Left everything else alone and it still updated to redstone.
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    04-15-2016 01:07 PM
  14. jayblazer's Avatar
    I am thinking about getting another icon because I am with Verizon for now. I just wanted to make sure that this is working perfectly on phones locked to Verizon before I spend a couple of hundred on something that wont work.. Thanks in advance for verification..
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    04-17-2016 10:10 AM
  15. JetFixxxer's Avatar
    I am thinking about getting another icon because I am with Verizon for now. I just wanted to make sure that this is working perfectly on phones locked to Verizon before I spend a couple of hundred on something that wont work.. Thanks in advance for verification..
    I'm on VZ as well and I used this hack. The only issue so far is that I have Apps that show twice one that show PENDING underneath it and the other shows NEW underneath it. TIf I go into the Store it tells me there are 11 updates I have, but there isn't a progress bar so it doesn't download anything.
    04-17-2016 05:20 PM
  16. Will 74's Avatar
    Will a factory reset cause the registry settings to return to normal or will is still say it's a 930? Also, would this also allow a firmware update if the 930 gets one and the Icon doesn't. Would such a firmware update basically convert the phone to a 930?
    04-17-2016 07:44 PM
  17. JetFixxxer's Avatar
    Can't answer those question about the registry settings. I thought I read from one of these links here is that it will return the registry to normal.

    As far as the firmware the instructions here said that once you went to Redstone you can put your registry back to original.
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    04-17-2016 09:17 PM
  18. Grzenek's Avatar
    Check my #31 post if you got stuck!!!
    Just reset the phone first to avoid leftover garbage from previous installations. This helped me. And now works great.

    One thing though. After upgrade go to setting->Battery saver->Battery saver settings and add only apps you want to work in background. Right after my upgrade, I had all apps included and battery got killed after few hours. After I changed to run only communication apps, battery hold very well.
    Last edited by Grzenek; 04-17-2016 at 11:01 PM.
    04-17-2016 10:06 PM
  19. Grzenek's Avatar
    Will a factory reset cause the registry settings to return to normal or will is still say it's a 930? Also, would this also allow a firmware update if the 930 gets one and the Icon doesn't. Would such a firmware update basically convert the phone to a 930?
    Factory reset will reset the registry settings to normal. This hack just makes you to get updates. Nothing else.
    Will 74 likes this.
    04-17-2016 10:15 PM
  20. Grzenek's Avatar
    I'm on VZ as well and I used this hack. The only issue so far is that I have Apps that show twice one that show PENDING underneath it and the other shows NEW underneath it. TIf I go into the Store it tells me there are 11 updates I have, but there isn't a progress bar so it doesn't download anything.
    What build are you on? My apps cycled few times and stabilized finally. All well now.
    Last edited by Grzenek; 04-17-2016 at 10:46 PM.
    04-17-2016 10:28 PM
  21. Grzenek's Avatar
    Lots of people over at XDA saying build 14322 sent the device into reboot loops, I have successfully upgraded my Icon with no issues, just an FYI for everyone. :)
    On fast ring, correct?
    Was it worth it? I hesitate to upgrade from 14295, since it is pretty stable for me. Did they fix the navigation? On 14295 I cannot get the traffic to work when in navigation mode and time seems to be calculated based on offline maps. Can you please comment?
    04-17-2016 10:42 PM
  22. JetFixxxer's Avatar
    What build are you on? My apps cycled few times and stabilized finally. All well now.
    14322.1000
    04-18-2016 09:07 AM
  23. shawnmos's Avatar
    Will a factory reset cause the registry settings to return to normal or will is still say it's a 930? Also, would this also allow a firmware update if the 930 gets one and the Icon doesn't. Would such a firmware update basically convert the phone to a 930?
    Factory reset should put it back as a 929. You will stay on current build but will not get new builds until you change the registry again.

    As for firmware, that's a "maybe". Actually, I think firmware is determined by "PhoneManufacturerModelName", since that is specific to the carrier. I didn't change this on my phone and still got the redstone builds. Actually I'd suggest putting that back to default values just so that you don't accidentally get the firmware update.

    A few things might happen if you get the 930 firmware on the Icon:
    1) Bricks the phone
    2) Phone boots but no longer works on Verizon bands (or might not work on any bands)
    3) Everything works fine and phone is now a 930 that works on Verizon (least likely I think)


    I wouldn't risk it until someone else is brave enough to try.
    Will 74 likes this.
    04-18-2016 12:25 PM
  24. JetFixxxer's Avatar
    I have to reload the Root Tool as it crashes when I try to run it now.

    Still can't get into the Root Tool. Hopefully I don't get the f/w ;)
    Last edited by JetFixxxer; 04-18-2016 at 05:08 PM.
    04-18-2016 12:46 PM
  25. FearL0rd's Avatar
    Originally posted by JetFixxxer
    I have to reload the Root Tool as it crashes when I try to run it now.

    Still can't get into the Root Tool. Hopefully I don't get the f/w ;)
    This new build broke a lot of apps like facebook messenger and root tool. We need to wait for a new update from Microsoft
    JetFixxxer likes this.
    04-18-2016 10:20 PM
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