10-30-2013 12:11 PM
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  1. stalemate1's Avatar
    I really feel you. I am the only one of my group of friends with a Windows Phone. Android users actually are interested in my phone and mess around with it but Apple fanboys, jeez. They are just rude lol.
    You let people mess around with your phone ? What if they break it ?
    10-29-2013 01:24 PM
  2. unstoppablekem's Avatar
    You let people mess around with your phone ? What if they break it ?
    "It" means the surroundings near the phone, right? As you should be worried what the phone hits, as that will break.
    Last edited by unstoppablekem; 10-29-2013 at 08:05 PM.
    10-29-2013 02:02 PM
  3. stalemate1's Avatar
    As someone that loves technology, I think fanboyism is so funny. Linux fanboys are the worst IMHO when they're like "microsoft is an evil corporation that wants you to pay them for software" and they act like its a crime for someone to make money selling software lol...

    But in any case, I don't get into stupid fanboy arguments, I will gladly debate something with somebody, but when they start making things up like "apple is the best because it is...", arguments I stop. Really, there are benefits to every platform and certain platforms are better for certain needs. A lot of people don't understand that. They all have there benefits, for example: Apple iphone is good for its ease of use and apps library, Android is good for its versatility and cutting edge hardware, MS is good for the MS ecosystem (office, outlook, etc.) and its hardware (nokia) and stability, bb is good for stability and bbm. They all have their benefits, people just want their choice to be the "right one for everbody" when I've come to learn that there isn't one. WP is the right choice for me, but will it work for everybody...probably, can I blame other people for choosing other platforms, no. Certain platforms give you certain advantages.

    I love MS and have always been a fan of them, but the reason I'm not a fanboy is that I have criticisms of everybody, especially at some of the past choices MS has made. Most people have the problem that they go read a tech blog or journal and think that they are infallible. I really dislike tech blogs in general. Yes, I read stuff like engadget and the verge just to keep up on whats out there, but I take their opinions with a grain of salt because most of them are extremely biased. Windows 8 is a great example of this, I sell computers so I hear this every day.."windows 8 sucks, I've heard its terrible! I want a new computer running windows 7!!!!" Then I go ask them, "have you tried it?". 90% of the time they will say no. I respect someone if they try something and don't like it, but most people haven't and they just parrot what they hear without making their own thought out opinion.

    thats just my 2 cents though...feel free to comment...
    I was the same about windows 8, I found it hard to use on the demo computers coming from xp its very different. One day I saw a magazine giving tips/tricks and apps about Windows 8...after reading it I finally knew how to use it, I learnt about gestures which really impressed me with Windows 8. And now I have an hp pavilion g6 running Windows 8...I just needed something to tell me how to use it so I could discover all the new features and become comfortable with the changes...people who hate Windows 8, ask them if they have read the manual.
    N_LaRUE likes this.
    10-30-2013 02:04 AM
  4. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I was the same about windows 8, I found it hard to use on the demo computers coming from xp its very different. One day I saw a magazine giving tips/tricks and apps about Windows 8...after reading it I finally knew how to use it, I learnt about gestures which really impressed me with Windows 8. And now I have an hp pavilion g6 running Windows 8...I just needed something to tell me how to use it so I could discover all the new features and become comfortable with the changes...people who hate Windows 8, ask them if they have read the manual.
    If you haven't updated to Windows 8.1 I recommend it. I find it a lot smoother and if possible, even quicker.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    10-30-2013 02:58 AM
  5. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    Platform hate? Nonsense. These days, it is tame LOL.

    Way back when, the Palm vs Windows Mobile wars? Now THOSE were insane! When Palm made a few WinMo devices, confusion reigned. Folks didn't know who/what to diss.

    Good days...
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    10-30-2013 03:25 AM
  6. stalemate1's Avatar
    If you haven't updated to Windows 8.1 I recommend it. I find it a lot smoother and if possible, even quicker.
    Are gestures any smoother or more responsive ?

    Currently on 8.0 my gestures take very long to load and are very laggy and unresponsive at times, and my laptop freezes from time to time and its only 2 months old.

    If updating to 8.1 will fix it and I dont loose my antivirus or office instal (ice used the 3rd instal so if its deleted I'd have to buy it again). Do I stand a risk of this ?

    Also any improvement in boot up and loading time ?


    Does it feel much quicker and responsive ?

    The thing is, 3.4GB off my data plan will hurt. And I'm not sitting in a cafe for hours and hours.
    10-30-2013 04:25 AM
  7. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Are gestures any smoother or more responsive ?

    Currently on 8.0 my gestures take very long to load and are very laggy and unresponsive at times, and my laptop freezes from time to time and its only 2 months old.
    I don't use gestures so I wouldn't know. It's something I should look into more but I don't have a touch screen so wasn't sure if it's worth a look in. Going by what's improved I would suspect that they things will be better. Performance overall has improved.

    If updating to 8.1 will fix it and I dont loose my antivirus or office instal (ice used the 3rd instal so if its deleted I'd have to buy it again). Do I stand a risk of this ?

    Also any improvement in boot up and loading time ?
    You don't lose anything during the update. Everything stays, why you would want another anti-virus over the built-in one of the OS is another discussion. Boot time is quicker but it was quick to begin with and I find my programs loading heaps faster and are more stable. I had issues with some programs crashing a lot.

    Things are a bit different in some areas but nothing you can't work out.

    Does it feel much quicker and responsive ?
    Yes.

    The thing is, 3.4GB off my data plan will hurt. And I'm not sitting in a cafe for hours and hours.
    It does take some time to install. I have WiFi at home so had no issues. You have to make sure your W8 is up to date and then it shows up in the Store to download.
    10-30-2013 04:41 AM
  8. stalemate1's Avatar
    I don't use gestures so I wouldn't know. It's something I should look into more but I don't have a touch screen so wasn't sure if it's worth a look in.
    Gestures don't only work on touch screens, I often use gestures on the touch pad on my laptop.
    10-30-2013 12:11 PM
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