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  1. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Honest John rockets go way back. I remember making Estes Honest John rockets as a kid and launching them. 'honest john rocket'
    Some older weapons are better than newer weapons. I had a friend in college who was in ROTC. She hated that the M1911A1 was replaced by the M9. She said that the M9 was junk, since it lacked stopping power.
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    02-05-2014 12:41 AM
  2. etad putta's Avatar
    Honest John rockets go way back. I remember making Estes Honest John rockets as a kid and launching them. 'honest john rocket'
    It was really the only reason i signed up. I thought, as an 18 year old, hey cool, rockets! We only had them about a year or two after i enlisted and then they were replaced with 105mm howitzers. A bit of a drop off in the cool factor. Even though the Honest John was just an unguided rocket it was still a rocket. We never knew where that thing was going to end up. Bunch of concrete for a dummy payload and lookout boys there she goes! Got to meet a few farmers offpost because of the John.
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    02-05-2014 11:54 AM
  3. stalemate1's Avatar
    Are there any air fource pilots here ?
    02-10-2014 02:10 AM
  4. hopmedic's Avatar
    I was in Florida last week, and on my way back north, I swung through Orlando. I know the Naval Training Center closed during the Clinton era, but wanted to see what it looked like today.

    Wow. There is nothing there that a sailor would recognize. I went to boot camp, Nuclear Field A School, and Nuclear Power School on that base, so I was there for almost a year and a half. The only things that have not changed are the roads that went around the perimeter of the base. Nothing else is the same. Here are a couple pics:

    This is Lake Susannah. Roughly where I'm standing would have been a road. There would have been a cutout in the curb, with space to park maybe a dozen cars. I used to park here. Right behind me would have been barracks, and I would have "had" to look at this view every morning when I got up, while in Nuclear Power School. It was rough.
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    These "luxury" apartments (according to the signs) would have been where those barracks stood, and just to the west of them (I'm facing west) would have been the two buildings that were US Naval Nuclear Power School (NNPS) and the one building that was Nuclear Field A School (NFAS). To the left of the leftmost NNPS building would have been the galley. I remember there was a guy who checked IDs who would guess your home state by your SSN on your ID.
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    Here is a fountain that stands on RTC, which is now Baldwin Park. Behind where I'm standing would have been the Bluejacket, a ship mock-up. Looking across the fountain into the field, about half of the field would have been paved, and would be the North Grinder, where we'd practice marching, and of course doing push-ups. Distant to that would be the pool house, and to the left of that would have been the two RTC galleys. To the left, beyond the tree line, would have been barracks for divisions 1-5. I was in Division 2, compartment 2 Bravo. My barracks compartment had no view of this field. BTW, I'm facing SSE in taking this shot.
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    The thing that disgusted me the most is the waste. Every single building was demolished. All sidewalks, all roads, everything that could possibly be recognized. There were lots of buildings that were still very usable. The boot camp barracks buildings - at least the one I was in - was in very good condition. Of course it would be, with recruits always polishing everything. The tile on the floor was probably 40 years old, but looked shinier than the day it came out of the box. Surely ten of those buildings that would hold twelve companies of roughly 80 men and women each could have been put to some good use. The barracks on the NTC side that I lived in, yeah, they would have been best to be demolished. The Nuclear Field A School (NFAS) building was pretty new when I was in it in 1986, and I believe the NNPS school buildings were fairly new - at least they looked in very good condition. And then there was a galley right behind the one building. Perfect for a school system in Florida where it's not so important that the cafeteria be in the same building as the classes. But they demolished them, and a little way down (near the other end of the base) they built a brand new middle school. The waste just disgusted me. So many resources that could have been put to good use, wasted.

    It brought back memories, though, and I did some more research. Here's a site I found that compares the new to the old.
    RTC Orlando

    Here's a picture that I found online. At the bottom you see the NTC galley. Right below it would have been an auto center where you could rent a bay with a lift to work on your car. Right above and to the left of the galley is the south NNPS building (picture is facing north). Directly north of it is the other NNPS building, and to the left between the two was NFAS. To the right of the southern NNPS building you see 8 barracks arranged in a square. Those were for NNPS enlisted students. I lived in the second one from the north, oriented east-west. The group of barracks north of that, east of the northern NNPS building were NFAS students. I lived in the one that is closest to the NNPS building, when I was in NFAS. The green lake to the right is Lake Susanna, pictured in the first image. RTC is in the top left / northwest corner of the picture. You can see Division 10 as the southernmost barracks building, and you can barely make out Division 5 at the other end. You can see the north grinder and field pictured above in the picture of the fountain, and part of the south grinder and parade field where we held pass-in-review. Just above mid-left, you can see the Navy Exchange mall, where there was a Baskin Robbins. Since NNPS taught all classified info, we had to study in the building, of course, so I would often go to BR after dinner, get a pint of Cherries Jubilee, and eat it while studying.

    Good times....
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    03-13-2014 09:07 AM
  5. palandri's Avatar
    Only military pic I could find on my local drive atm. Pretty sure I've got some older ones on an external drive somewhere. Circa 2007, about four years prior to my retirement. Believe it was taken for Senior NCO of the Year, just previous to my selection as Squadron First Sergeant.
    Thanks! If you can find some of the older pictures, please post them!
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    03-21-2014 08:48 PM
  6. stmav's Avatar
    I'm sorry to hear Orlando closed. I went to boot there many years ago. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, my old squadron was disestablished in 94.
    03-21-2014 09:15 PM
  7. hopmedic's Avatar
    My boat, The Sturgeon (SSN-637) was decommissioned in '94.
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    03-22-2014 10:00 PM
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    03-22-2014 10:09 PM
  9. Guytronic's Avatar
    Man I gots to get some pics going in this thread.
    Been looking I just can't remember where they disappeared to.

    I was in when fatigues were green.
    74-80 all six years at McClellan AFB CA.
    Then I worked there as a civilian in electronics until 99 and transferred to HAFB UT working on airplanes.

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    TPS 75 radar sets on the test pad at McClellan.
    03-22-2014 11:06 PM
  10. palandri's Avatar
    My boat, The Sturgeon (SSN-637) was decommissioned in '94.
    I have a question for you about submarine communications. I wasn't a radioman in the Coast Guard, but I remember my ship would communicate with submarines using an ELF (extremely low frequency) radio. Is that still used today? ... and if it is, wouldn't it make sense to add an ELF radio to an aircraft's black box to make it easier to find? I am thinking about Malaysian flight 370 here.
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    03-28-2014 09:54 AM
  11. psychotron's Avatar
    Some older weapons are better than newer weapons. I had a friend in college who was in ROTC. She hated that the M1911A1 was replaced by the M9. She said that the M9 was junk, since it lacked stopping power.
    I was working as an armorer at the time they made that transition and it wasn't so much the caliber that made it junk as it was just, well, junk. We had slide stops breaking, magazines wouldn't seat, all sorts of issues. When we finally had a lieutenant at the range get hit in the face by a slide that flew off the pistol during recoil we just stopped issuing them for weeks/months until Beretta could come up with a fix. Those first contract batches were literally a safety hazard.
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    03-28-2014 10:50 AM
  12. hopmedic's Avatar
    I have a question for you about submarine communications. I wasn't a radioman in the Coast Guard, but I remember my ship would communicate with submarines using an ELF (extremely low frequency) radio. Is that still used today? ... and if it is, wouldn't it make sense to add an ELF radio to an aircraft's black box to make it easier to find? I am thinking about Malaysian flight 370 here.
    I was a nuclear machinist mate, so my radio knowledge wasn't vast... And while I did have to know something about all of the ship's systems in order to get my dolphins, those dolphins aren't quite as shiny as they once were...

    That said, I know we had a wire that we towed, and if you've seen Crimson Tide, you can see that they're getting some pretty low frequency transmissions at the height of the tension in Control. I don't know if that would be ELF or ULF or what, but yes, you can get one-way transmissions down low. I don't recall being able to transmit on that same frequency. Maybe, maybe not. I don't remember. So there's definitely receive capability - I just don't recall if there's transmit or not.....

    I do recall though, that we had to go shallow (PD - periscope depth) to transmit, though, so there's probably no deep-water transmission other than the underwater telephone, which puts audio into the water, and you can literally hear it throughout the ship (but it was quite hard to understand without the handset, IIRC). The reason for needing to go to PD was because you'd have to raise the antenna mast (there were several, IIRC).

    Here's a shot that shows at least some of the gear that we could raise, though I don't recall if that was all of it or not.
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    03-28-2014 11:21 AM
  13. etad putta's Avatar
    I remember this ELF story many years ago...http://www.hep.wisc.edu/~prepost/ELF.pdf
    03-28-2014 11:30 AM
  14. etad putta's Avatar
    Pearl Harbor Day, probably many young Americans don't know much about it but thanks to all those that helped us get through WWII. As Christmas appears on the horizon maybe peace on earth would be a good thing to wish for.
    12-07-2014 12:26 AM
  15. dgr_874's Avatar
    Man I gots to get some pics going in this thread.
    Been looking I just can't remember where they disappeared to.

    I was in when fatigues were green.
    74-80 all six years at McClellan AFB CA.
    Then I worked there as a civilian in electronics until 99 and transferred to HAFB UT working on airplanes.

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    TPS 75 radar sets on the test pad at McClellan.
    Still at HAFB? I was stationed there twice, 388 FW.
    12-07-2014 01:16 AM
  16. Guytronic's Avatar
    Still at HAFB? I was stationed there twice, 388 FW
    Nah I retired as a civilian in 2007.
    We were across the way from the 388th in Bldg 100.

    I was the boss in flight controls there for about a year until AFLC command said "let 'em go"
    2700 old, fat and tired civilians blew that popsicle stand days after the announcement

    No more beatings in the stand-up briefs with item managment for me!

    Hill was a great assignment.
    I truly miss all the great people I worked with and for there.
    12-07-2014 01:36 AM
  17. palandri's Avatar
    I just had an unusual encounter from the past. I took a short call with a contractor working at O'Hare and the guy I was working with was stationed at the Norfolk Navy base at the exact same time I was there for a large part of fire fighting school, a smaller portion was at the Yorktown Coast Guard base. Then I was showing him a few pictures from this thread and he knew the Yorktown Coast Guard base right away because they use to unload supplies there. I don't ever remember seeing him since there's thousands of people on each base, It was just an unusual encounter.
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    12-07-2014 06:54 AM
  18. palandri's Avatar
    We need more Military pictures.
    02-11-2015 08:59 AM
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