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  1. AskaLangly's Avatar
    Been in that same boat with you, OP. Welcome to WP. Then again, ditched my Fascinate (as a phone, not as a media player) because of Google: Play app reviews wanted G+. Nothx. iSh!t is hype, so I'm here. Just wish OS and firmware updates didn't have to go through Verizon first, haha.
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    04-19-2013 01:21 PM
  2. omniusovermind's Avatar
    Fyi, none of my devices run on carrier rom, but generic roms.
    My experience is not limited to 1 device, 5-6 devices from different manufacturers.
    All running a generic or maybe custom rom, we don't get locked phones over here with crappy bloatware loaded by the carrier so keep your assumptions to yourself ;).
    That argument would hold more weight if ROM users were more prolific than 2% of all smartphone users. I used to run ROMS until I realized it's counter productive to be expected to run modifications instead of the device being optimal on its own merits. If a store rep tried to sell me an HDTV by telling me I would have to learn how to and then install custom firmware on it in order to remove unwanted junk ware I'd laugh all the way to the check out counter with a different brand.

    Some carriers still haven't upgraded the GS3 even to 4.1.1 let alone 4.2 which has been out for what...6 months now? That flagship was only out last year. By the time it gets 4.2.2 (if ever) Key Lime Pie will already be old news. Unacceptable.

    sent from pure android on tapatalk. carrier controlled updates is the worst smartphone spec of them all.
    04-19-2013 07:11 PM
  3. scottcraft's Avatar
    Both android and WP have their strengths, but as far as I'm concerned using lag or the lack of lag to pick one over the other is pointless. My 8X has moments of lag and stuttering even though it's slick as butter most of the time. I have an HTC Rezound that isn't quite as fluid but doesn't hang up or stutter. I feel that the flipping in the transitions on WP makes it feel faster than it is. I had the Motorola Droid and that was a laggy, frustrating experience. New androids don't have near the problems with lag and homescreen redraws like they used to.
    04-19-2013 07:55 PM
  4. Oxymoron428's Avatar
    Both android and WP have their strengths, but as far as I'm concerned using lag or the lack of lag to pick one over the other is pointless. My 8X has moments of lag and stuttering even though it's slick as butter most of the time.
    Your 8x lags? Wow. Mine has never lagged. Ever. Even when I only had like 1.5 GB of space left, it never lags. :O
    04-19-2013 08:07 PM
  5. scottcraft's Avatar
    Your 8x lags? Wow. Mine has never lagged. Ever. Even when I only had like 1.5 GB of space left, it never lags. :O
    Primarily since the Portico update. It's not frequent, but it does happen sometimes. The keyboard gets sluggish sometimes too.
    04-19-2013 08:12 PM
  6. omniusovermind's Avatar
    Your 8x lags? Wow. Mine has never lagged. Ever. Even when I only had like 1.5 GB of space left, it never lags. :O
    Every smartphone will experience lag sooner or later. All it takes is one poorly written app, no matter what os you're using. You'll get hit eventually. No os is 100% immune to instances of lag. Out of all of them I'd rate wp8 the best for speed and fluidity. Hopefully that doesn't change in the future as it incorporates new features

    sent from pure android on tapatalk. carrier controlled updates is the worst smartphone spec of them all.
    04-19-2013 08:16 PM
  7. montsa007's Avatar
    I'm from the UK, I knew that avatar was good for something
    Meet me sometime, I'm from India ;)
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    04-20-2013 04:30 AM
  8. BIGPADDY's Avatar
    Meet me sometime, I'm from India ;)
    Ok but it a bit of walk
    04-20-2013 04:43 AM
  9. In Limbo's Avatar
    Always glad to have newcomers.
    04-20-2013 05:01 AM
  10. farukdgn's Avatar
    OP says he dislikes Apple because of the walled garden....he's going to be in for a nasty surprise when he finds out that the Windows app store is the same thing, just 80 percent smaller.

    Also great work judging Android on the basis of the crappy devices you used it on.

    Sent from my IdeaTabA2109A
    shall i remind you that nexus 4 is the latest phone from google?
    04-20-2013 06:37 AM
  11. farukdgn's Avatar
    Every smartphone will experience lag sooner or later. All it takes is one poorly written app, no matter what os you're using. You'll get hit eventually. No os is 100% immune to instances of lag.
    yes, every os can lag by poorly written apps, but android lags because of poorly written operating system.
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    04-20-2013 06:42 AM
  12. omniusovermind's Avatar
    yes, every os can lag by poorly written apps, but android lags because of poorly written operating system.
    Try running 4.2 stock Android. No more lag on that setup than any other OS. If we're talking phones running Touchwiz, Sense etc then you'd be closer to the truth. Pound for pound Android does require more RAM and a larger CPU to achieve fluidity. But since they do come with those specs anyway it doesn't really matter. Where you're going to run into stuttering is when you get into those cheaper lower end androids with lower specs. Those do definitely lag behind other OS phones at the entry and mid level price points. A Lumia 520 or 620 will run much smoother than any current $250 Android phone. Once you hit the high level phones no.

    sent from pure android on tapatalk. carrier controlled updates is the worst smartphone spec of them all.
    04-20-2013 07:12 PM
  13. Slai's Avatar
    OP included a nexus in his list.
    However I had no more problems with lag on my s3 than on my 920.
    04-21-2013 02:50 AM
  14. omniusovermind's Avatar
    OP included a nexus in his list.
    However I had no more problems with lag on my s3 than on my 920.
    Android is very versatile and loaded with features but that comes with a price tag in that it can be very easy to bog down even on a nexus. If you're not choosy about who your app developers are you can end up with some real performance hog apps running on your phone. If you go bat crazy with widgets. If you install a crappy 3rd party launcher.

    On the other end up the spectrum if you're well versed in who develops the higher rated quality apps and have one of the best rated launchers or just stock, then you end up with pretty much a lag less experience. Android gives you a lot of power on a smartphone, but as I said it comes with a price - it also allows you the power to muck it up if you're not running it optimally.

    sent from pure android on tapatalk. carrier controlled updates is the worst smartphone spec of them all.
    04-21-2013 03:59 AM
  15. TechAbstract's Avatar
    Nexus 4 with 4.2.2 still has scrolling lag and occasional lag. The Android OS just isn't as reliable as WP8 and iOS. I used to be an Android fan since Android 1.5 and have had 5 android phones.
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    04-21-2013 04:07 AM
  16. Slai's Avatar
    Dont know if WP is more reliable or not, but it sure has its own issues, with speed as well.
    Long drawn out animations become a pain in the *** after a while. Sure it looks smooth, but is it really faster just because it seems less laggy?
    Iunno, as I said: both my s3 and my 920 seem quite even on the "fluid/lag/crash" bit.

    What do you mean by "reliable" btw?
    04-21-2013 04:17 AM
  17. Eas195's Avatar
    Dont know if WP is more reliable or not, but it sure has its own issues, with speed as well.
    Long drawn out animations become a pain in the *** after a while. Sure it looks smooth, but is it really faster just because it seems less laggy?
    Iunno, as I said: both my s3 and my 920 seem quite even on the "fluid/lag/crash" bit.

    What do you mean by "reliable" btw?
    I have L620, and it ran just fine, only the last reset is on 1 week back, and it's because of the storage check feature didn't work just after updating firmware to 1308.

    Why it ran just fine? It has much fewer lags, even with single core and 256MB of RAM, as in WP7 devices; also, it runs so smooth, smoother than all high-end Android devices.

    And reliable means it can be 'trusted' for doing some jobs, including games, with the least faults.
    04-21-2013 04:35 AM
  18. Slai's Avatar
    My 920 runs about as smooth as my s3, so I doubt the 620 runs somehow smoother than the 920?
    My 920 has had more reboots than my s3 (which never had one), but that might be a 920 issue.

    As for faults; ive had more apps crash on my 920 than on my s3, and switching between apps in android is far better than on the 920 with regards to both speed of startup and how the game pauses.

    Reliability in other areas seem quite equal, such as apps, chat, text, phone, camera, etc.
    Except some apps, like for instance Spotify and wpcentral, the latter of which has some weird hickups sometimes ("you don't have permission to post" when pressing reply then working when pressed again, refusing to load forum when moving from wifi to 3g, sometimes requireing a restart to work).

    I don't see WP as more or less reliable than my s3 at all :/ .
    04-21-2013 05:20 AM
  19. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    I like how people use crappy Android phones and complain about the OS. Use a good phone like a Nexus 4
    You're comparing against an... Xperia T? No wonder. I could've eliminated almost your entire list of cons by replacing that fail phone with another android
    Also great work judging Android on the basis of the crappy devices you used it on.
    With WP - it doesn't matter if you buy the cheap 99 Lumia phone or high-end 560 Lumia phone - OS behaves the same. You don't need to pay too much to get rid of the lag or slow OS. I'm surprised how many chaps just put up with 99 Android and its lag saga when they could be enjoying Nexus fluidity with 99 Lumia! On WP you don't have to invest in an high end to be comparable. So, I totally see OPs point as a valid one even if he had used a low end crappy android as you guys put it, he shouldn't have to suffer the lag. With Lumia 710, I didn't, still don't.

    do you care about reading "nexus" word or are you just trolling?
    Not sure if the OP is trolling
    At WPCentral we DO NOT call the Tword here even if we are 100% sure. If you have issues with any post or you suspect of being trolled, please report the post and mods will monitor the posts but we are WPCentral and we are much better than any other forum. Please refrain from using that word while you are on this forum.
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    04-21-2013 05:23 AM
  20. Eas195's Avatar
    My 920 runs about as smooth as my s3, so I doubt the 620 runs somehow smoother than the 920?
    My 920 has had more reboots than my s3 (which never had one), but that might be a 920 issue.

    As for faults; ive had more apps crash on my 920 than on my s3, and switching between apps in android is far better than on the 920 with regards to both speed of startup and how the game pauses.

    Reliability in other areas seem quite equal, such as apps, chat, text, phone, camera, etc.
    Except some apps, like for instance Spotify and wpcentral, the latter of which has some weird hickups sometimes ("you don't have permission to post" when pressing reply then working when pressed again, refusing to load forum when moving from wifi to 3g, sometimes requireing a restart to work).

    I don't see WP as more or less reliable than my s3 at all :/ .
    If you watch the comparison between 620 and 920 from boot-up to launch some apps, you will know 620 generally faster than 920, but it doesn't mean any apps can run faster.

    About crashes, it doesn't matter, because WP is still 2-3 years old, while Android is now 6 years old. Let's give it a chance to change, and GDR3 also :)
    04-21-2013 05:27 AM
  21. Slai's Avatar
    Might be true that the 620 is faster than the 920, but its still not superfast. Transitions cover a lot of the time, I think.
    Ill try some comparisons when my s4 comes :) .

    What I take issue with in this thread is the implication that android lags, which ive never found it to do, compared to for instance maemo5, belle, s^3, wp7.5/7.8/8 and meego flagships.
    Sure lowend androids probably lag and lowend wps lag less, but...

    As for crashes; it matters when the argument is that android is less stable :P .
    I agree WP8 is awesome, and it has tons of potential, and im happy to wait for things to iron out. But lets not decieve ourselves either..
    04-21-2013 05:38 AM
  22. omniusovermind's Avatar
    Nexus 4 with 4.2.2 still has scrolling lag and occasional lag. The Android OS just isn't as reliable as WP8 and iOS. I used to be an Android fan since Android 1.5 and have had 5 android phones.
    All phones do in certain circumstances. No offense but I don't know what crud you were running on your n4 to cause your issues. I tried on purpose to MAKE mine stutter with a battery of scrolling and ui tests of various launchers on the homescreens and app/widget drawer. Stock, Nova, and Holo HD all passed with complete stutter free operation and seamless scrolling. Other less popular launchers were a different story.

    sent from pure android on tapatalk. carrier controlled updates is the worst smartphone spec of them all.
    04-21-2013 06:36 AM
  23. eric12341's Avatar
    [WARN] There are several violations of the rules in this thread, lets refrain from calling each other fanboys, trolls, ridiculing each other with their "lack of experience" etc. Let's have a civil discussion. If we cannot have a civil discussion then the thread will be closed and disciplinary actions will take place. [/WARN]
    04-21-2013 08:32 AM
  24. montsa007's Avatar
    I've switched to WP8
    http://forums.windowscentral.com/nok...g-android.html
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    04-21-2013 10:21 AM
  25. London Jr's Avatar
    idk about people not experiencing lag on the gs3, I used one for about a month and went right back to my Lumia 810 as soon as I got annoyed with all the different keyboards I tried, it freakin lags in comparison to wp8, and apps lag, there's no way someone doesn't experience lag on S3's even fully updated, take a moment to think about how many times ur keyboard delayed or locked up on u, the keyboard never does that on wp8.... oh and this post is about how much you're gonna love the keyboard on wp8, I think its the best right next to or over iOS...
    04-21-2013 10:34 AM
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