1. Shinigami910's Avatar
    Oh, I know. I know my lefty side is showing here and being brought up in a poor family (sort of upper tier poor 'working poor') doesn't help but I get tired of the political spin that's being going on. There are many people who play the system, that tells me something, the system is broken. But to fix things is not easy. Especially when you have generational benefits. You need to not think in just terms of 'lazy people' you need to revamp their entire way of thinking.

    Also, I noticed recently on some channels they've really made a big point of the Romanians and Bulgarians coming over to rote the system. Again, I blame the system, not them.
    The system is definitely broken! Also im speaking from experience my mum raised me from the age of 11 by herself (due to my father dying) im sure she had government assistance. The system needs an overhaul to ensure those that need help are getting it, while those who are cheating the system are weeded out.
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    04-16-2014 10:42 AM
  2. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    The system is definitely broken! Also im speaking from experience my mum raised me from the age of 11 by herself (due to my father dying) im sure she had government assistance. The system needs an overhaul to ensure those that need help are getting it, while those who are cheating the system are weeded out.
    Would be brilliant if it was that easy....
    04-16-2014 10:43 AM
  3. hope4wp's Avatar
    Nobody is poor if it's measured by the richness of their heart ❤
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    04-16-2014 10:45 AM
  4. Shinigami910's Avatar
    Would be brilliant if it was that easy....
    Yeah but nothing worth doing is easy!
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    04-16-2014 10:45 AM
  5. sahib lopez's Avatar
    Isn't poor also just a frame of mind? If you can get food in your stomach, even if you had to travel and suffer.. If it's more than what you had, you're not as "Poor" right?

    I just think that people get one life. Instead of focusing on what you don't have all the time, work with what you have to enrich that life.

    I'm sorry, I guess after struggling so hard to get where I am. I can't just let myself wallow. If you aren't happy, fight to change it. Even if you can't change it today, tomorrow is a new day...


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    sounds something mia would say ._.
    04-16-2014 10:45 AM
  6. sahib lopez's Avatar
    blah all this mature talk is making me think a lot again :P
    04-16-2014 10:49 AM
  7. Shinigami910's Avatar
    blah all this mature talk is making me think a lot again :P
    Its mature cus of the ages of those in the room, i mean N_LaRue is ancient and im not far off it lol
    04-16-2014 10:52 AM
  8. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Isn't poor also just a frame of mind? If you can get food in your stomach, even if you had to travel and suffer.. If it's more than what you had, you're not as "Poor" right?

    I just think that people get one life. Instead of focusing on what you don't have all the time, work with what you have to enrich that life.

    I'm sorry, I guess after struggling so hard to get where I am. I can't just let myself wallow. If you aren't happy, fight to change it. Even if you can't change it today, tomorrow is a new day...


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    Keep in mind here. I'm not arguing with you. LOL!

    I believe there is only one life. I'm also not religious to boot. I've gone through a lot of ups and downs in my life and a lot of changes. Everything I have is because I wanted it. Nothing was ever handed to me, ever.

    But I was brought up to work. I was motivated by my single mother and my desire to have more in life. If I didn't have either I could see me struggling. That's is the difference. I can understand you because you're like me in a way.

    I had trouble understanding those in long term unemployment before I met my wife. It was through her that I began to understand the complexities. Those who worked the system vs those who felt trapped vs those who were trying to get out of it. It really opened my eyes a lot to the issues. You start to realise that the systems in place are the issue and the people are a mix bag.
    04-16-2014 10:54 AM
  9. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Its mature cus of the ages of those in the room, i mean N_LaRue is ancient and im not far off it lol
    Thanks... I think. :P I'm not that old. Just experienced. :P
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    04-16-2014 10:54 AM
  10. sahib lopez's Avatar
    not to sound like a youngster but I think you are one of the oldest one here ;P
    04-16-2014 10:57 AM
  11. Chregu's Avatar
    Its mature cus of the ages of those in the room, i mean N_LaRue is ancient and im not far off it lol
    I am old, but I'm not contributing. Just for that reason, I don't want the discussion to be too seasoned. Also, I don't have much to contribute. I know little about these problems in other countries, and I grew up in a healthy middle class family.
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    04-16-2014 10:57 AM
  12. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    not to sound like a youngster but I think you are one of the oldest one here ;P
    At the moment. Yeah I guess I'm the 'old' man. :P Oh, well. I can deal with that.
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    04-16-2014 10:58 AM
  13. sahib lopez's Avatar
    I am old, but I'm not contributing. Just for that reason, I don't want the discussion to be too seasoned. Also, I don't have much to contribute. I know little about these problems in other countries, and I grew up in a healthy middle class family.
    yeah you are not as hip as me ;)
    04-16-2014 10:59 AM
  14. sahib lopez's Avatar
    At the moment. Yeah I guess I'm the 'old' man. :P Oh, well. I can deal with that.
    unless pointy guy comes back. I think hes older than you o.o or box guy or both ._.
    04-16-2014 10:59 AM
  15. stmav's Avatar
    I'm the only ancient one. You are in charge of your life, no one else is. What you do with it is your decision. You can't go looking to blame anyone else. You can do whatever it takes to provide and live your dreams. Or you can look for the easy way out or make excuses. Bottom line, it's up to you.
    04-16-2014 11:00 AM
  16. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    unless pointy guy comes back. I think hes older than you o.o or box guy or both ._.
    Box guy is around your age. :P Yes, pointy guy is older than me.
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    04-16-2014 11:00 AM
  17. Shinigami910's Avatar
    Woop! Half day tomorrow!! :)
    04-16-2014 11:01 AM
  18. Shinigami910's Avatar
    Box guy is around your age. :P Yes, pointy guy is older than me.
    Who is pointy guy?
    04-16-2014 11:01 AM
  19. sahib lopez's Avatar
    Box guy is around your age. :P Yes, pointy guy is older than me.
    wait he is !!! .WHAT!!!! I thought he was like 30 something ..then again I think all mods and ambassadors are all above 30 :P
    04-16-2014 11:02 AM
  20. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    My coworker is Japanese and for a while he had a intern from Japan. Whenever they were speaking I felt like being in an epic Asian movie. It was great.
    It's a cool language to speak indeed...
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    04-16-2014 11:02 AM
  21. sahib lopez's Avatar
    Who is pointy guy?
    stamv or something like that .... I just know he has a pointy avatar
    04-16-2014 11:02 AM
  22. hope4wp's Avatar
    Who is pointy guy?
    I think it's stmav
    04-16-2014 11:03 AM
  23. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I think Sahib meant something in the 8xx series :-)
    I know what Sahib meant. But we are taking about t-mo USA here...
    04-16-2014 11:04 AM
  24. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Looks like things got into one of my wheelhouses (social welfare)...pity I can't mix it up as I'm trying to go to lunch with one of the social workers here that I barely see...
    04-16-2014 11:06 AM
  25. sahib lopez's Avatar
    I know what Sahib meant. But we are taking about t-mo USA here...
    lol wishful thinking but im happy with the 810 at the moment :) it has everything I want in a phone
    04-16-2014 11:06 AM
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