1. Chregu's Avatar
    Thing to keep in mind is Finnish is phonetic. You literally say every letter.
    It's the same in German. :)
    04-22-2014 10:14 AM
  2. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Who?
    Can't remember his name off hand he's been on TV a couple of times. The sketch is from a show he did in Ireland. I think he won Finnish comedian of the year. It's on YouTube.
    04-22-2014 10:15 AM
  3. Chregu's Avatar
    There and their sound the same to me  and when I think of das I think of Volkswagen. You know das auto 
    You're right. I learned it slightly differently pronounced, but the dictionary says it also can have exactly the same pronunciation:

    Their: \thər, ˈther\
    There: \ˈther\

    There - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

    Isn't it great when we both are right? :D

    Das Auto.

    Das Auto, das wir gesehen haben.

    Er dachte, dass wir das Auto gesehen haben.

    ;-)
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    04-22-2014 10:17 AM
  4. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Who?
    Found him!

    Ismo Leikola
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    04-22-2014 10:19 AM
  5. kmji1957's Avatar
    It's the same in German. :)
    No, it is not. German isn't phonetic language, like Finnish and Italian.
    04-22-2014 10:25 AM
  6. kmji1957's Avatar
    Found him!

    Ismo Leikola
    Okay 👌
    04-22-2014 10:27 AM
  7. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    No, it is not. German isn't phonetic language, like Finnish and Italian.
    I didn't think Italian was phonetic... it's a derivative of Latin, like French.
    04-22-2014 10:27 AM
  8. Chregu's Avatar
    No, it is not. German isn't phonetic language, like Finnish and Italian.
    Yeah, source please, I can't find any. In the world wide web there doesn't seem to a strict distinction :)
    04-22-2014 10:32 AM
  9. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    And to be honest, it would be a 925 over the ATIV S. :)
    It depends...if the price is equal the Ativ wins on screen size and SD card slot...both are really thing and light. 925 has a better camera in low light. If you don't need the extra storage space and want to try Nokia, the 925 is the get. Otherwise the Ativ S looks and feels good. I messed with the one I bought for my banker friend and if were int bigger phones I still would have bought that.
    04-22-2014 10:36 AM
  10. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I just checked. My go-to online store does now only offer Nokia Windows Phone devices. It sold the Ativ S for a very long time very cheaply. There's only one other store in Switzerland left that has it available for around 400 Swiss Francs. You can get a new 925 for less.
    That's not a deal at all. I think Expansys was selling it pretty cheap...not sure how much it would work out for you to buy it and ship it...if that is cheaper to do. Otherwise, the 925 you may like...
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    04-22-2014 10:38 AM
  11. Chregu's Avatar
    That's not a deal at all. I think Expansys was selling it pretty cheap...not sure how much it would work out for you to buy it and ship it...if that is cheaper to do. Otherwise, the 925 you may like...
    I love the 925. But I'm not currently looking for a new phone, it was a purely academic discussion :)
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    04-22-2014 10:39 AM
  12. sahib lopez's Avatar
    You're right. I learned it slightly differently pronounced, but the dictionary says it also can have exactly the same pronunciation:

    Their: \thər, ˈther\
    There: \ˈther\

    There - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

    Isn't it great when we both are right? :D

    Das Auto.

    Das Auto, das wir gesehen haben.

    Er dachte, dass wir das Auto gesehen haben.

    ;-)
    I could never tell the difference between words but I know in context and I have no idea 💡 what you said at the end 😵
    04-22-2014 10:40 AM
  13. sahib lopez's Avatar
    I love the 925. But I'm not currently looking for a new phone, it was a purely academic discussion :)
    Or it could be that your gf isn't letting you buy a new phone 😉
    04-22-2014 10:42 AM
  14. Chregu's Avatar
    I could never tell the difference between words but I know in context and I have no idea  what you said at the end 
    Nothing of interest, I just wrote an example of the usage of "das" and "dass" by using a sentence with the word "Auto" in it. ;-)

    Das Auto, das wir gesehen haben. -> The car we saw.

    Er dachte, dass wir das Auto gesehen haben. -> He thought that we saw the car.

    You could write:

    Er dachte, wir htten das Auto gesehen. -> He thought we saw the car.

    But that wouldn't include a "dass" ;-)
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    04-22-2014 10:44 AM
  15. Chregu's Avatar
    Or it could be that your gf isn't letting you buy a new phone 
    That too. ;-)

    But I wouldn't buy a phone of the same generation as my 8X anyway. It wouldn't make any sense.
    04-22-2014 10:44 AM
  16. sahib lopez's Avatar
    Nothing of interest, I just wrote an example of the usage of "das" and "dass" by using a sentence with the word "Auto" in it. ;-)

    Das Auto, das wir gesehen haben. -> The car we saw.

    Er dachte, dass wir das Auto gesehen haben. -> He thought that we saw the car.

    You could write:

    Er dachte, wir htten das Auto gesehen. -> He thought we saw the car.

    But that wouldn't include a "dass" ;-)
    I feel like I'm in French all over again 😭 all I know is das auto 😉
    04-22-2014 10:46 AM
  17. kmji1957's Avatar
    I didn't think Italian was phonetic... it's a derivative of Latin, like French.
    Ok 👌
    04-22-2014 10:47 AM
  18. kmji1957's Avatar
    Yeah, source please, I can't find any. In the world wide web there doesn't seem to a strict distinction :)
    Ok 👌
    04-22-2014 10:47 AM
  19. sahib lopez's Avatar
    That too. ;-)

    But I wouldn't buy a phone of the same generation as my 8X anyway. It wouldn't make any sense.
    I don't think.anyone would unless 1) that person was trying out wp8 or 2) wants a wp8 that is cheep and wants one now 3 ) their phone broke and want the same one . Anyways we want the new stuff already 📱
    04-22-2014 10:49 AM
  20. Chregu's Avatar
    Ok 
    I don't know about your German skills, but the 4th post by frank74 here is a nice description of what I think about German as a native speaker:

    UniLang • View topic - Is German a phonetic language???
    04-22-2014 10:50 AM
  21. sahib lopez's Avatar
    I'm going to look up what phonetic means. Because I have no idea what that means or how is used in languages 💡
    04-22-2014 10:55 AM
  22. sahib lopez's Avatar
    So Spanish can also be phonetic ?
    04-22-2014 10:57 AM
  23. sahib lopez's Avatar
    I wonder if I have a test today 😐 I'll see in 5 hrs 😌
    04-22-2014 11:09 AM
  24. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    So Spanish can also be phonetic ?
    Phonetic seems to have several meanings. There was a time when people were teaching children (and probably still do) to learn English phonetically. Problem is that English is only partially phonetic. Where as a language like Finnish is completely phonetic.
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    04-22-2014 11:20 AM
  25. Mohamed Ashid's Avatar
    Hi everyone!!!
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    04-22-2014 11:23 AM
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